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US to Ask OIE for BSE Status

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I wonder if the USDA employee is still the chairman of the committee that makes the decision... :wink: :lol:

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Today 8/28/2006 8:00:00 PM


INTERVIEW: US To Ask OIE For Official BSE Status



WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--The U.S. will make a massive submission in September to the World Organization for Animal Health, known commonly by the French acronym OIE, for its decision on the U.S. status for bovine spongiform encephalopathy risk, a government agricultural official said Monday.



J.B. Penn, U.S. Department of Agriculture undersecretary for farm and foreign agriculture services, said the U.S. will not be asking for a specific status level, but rather making a presentation and allowing the OIE to decide for

itself.



"We are going to submit to the OIE a package of information that details our entire experience with this disease," Penn told Dow Jones Newswires.



"We're going to let them determine our status and tell us," he said, but stressed that the submission will show that USDA's "conclusion is that this disease is very, very rare in our livestock herd."



The U.S. began restricting what ranchers could feed their cattle in 1996 as means to prevent the spread of BSE even though the disease had not been found here.



It was not until December 2003 that the U.S. discovered BSE in a cow and most foreign markets shut off beef imports from the U.S. immediately. More than two years later Japan, once the largest buyer of U.S. beef, has just resumed scaled-down imports. South Korea, previously the second-largest importer, still bans U.S. beef.



The USDA discovered two more BSE cases after boosting the amount of testing it does around the country in an "enhanced" program that is set to wind down soon.



There are three OIE risk categories: "negligible," "controlled" and "undetermined."



"Negligible" status is reserved for countries considered to have the smallest risk of BSE - a cattle disease that can be passed to humans through tainted meat - but Penn stressed it is not imperative for the U.S. to be put in that category for full trading privileges.



"From a practical point of view, in terms of what you can trade, it makes no difference whether you're in the negligible category or whether you're in the controlled risk category," Penn said. "You can trade the full range of products - boneless beef, bone-in beef, variety meats, offal and processed products from animals of any age - if you're in either one of those categories."



One country that is still not importing U.S. beef is China. It has offered to buy solely boneless cuts from young cattle under 30 months old, but the U.S. has repeatedly refused, saying all cuts from all cattle should be traded.



USDA Secretary Mike Johanns stressed to China in an August letter - a copy of which was obtained by Dow Jones Newswires - that the U.S. is making its submission to the OIE for a BSE risk status. He offered to share the submission with China.



USDA and OIE officials agree that it should be easier for the U.S. to get a "negligible" status thanks to a recent change in international standards.



Previously, a country had to wait seven years after its latest BSE discovery before it could be considered in the a "negligible" risk. That changed earlier this year. Now countries must wait until 11 years after birth date of the last native-born cow discovered with the disease. USDA, in March, discovered its latest BSE case in a cow it says was more than 10 years old when it died.



Source: Bill Tomson; Dow Jones Newswires; 202-646-0088; [email protected]
 

Mike

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OIE - Head of International Trade:


http://www.oie.int/eng/oie/organisation/en_BC_TRADE.htm

David Wilson. Hmmmmmmmm wonder what nationality he is?
 

HAY MAKER

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USDA's Penn says U.S., China beef talks at standstill
Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 9:04 AM

by Peter Shinn

USDA is submitting a detailed package to the World Organization for Animal Health, better known by its French initials as the OIE, in hopes of getting America's BSE risk status reduced. That's what departing USDA Under Secretary J.B. Penn told Dow Jones Monday.

The U.S. is hoping the OIE will reduce America’s BSE risk status to "negligible" or "controlled risk" either of which would make it easier for the U.S. to export beef. Penn told Dow Jones either category would essentially allow all U.S. beef and beef products to be exported.

Penn also told Dow Jones the U.S. and China are in a stalemate over U.S. beef. Chinese officials announced they’d resume U.S. beef imports some four months ago, but they haven't done so yet.

China has reportedly agreed to import boneless U.S. beef from cattle under 31-months of age. That's the same deal the U.S. gave South Korea. But Penn told Dow Jones USDA wants China to completely lift its ban on U.S. beef in accordance with international guidelines.

U.S. Trade Representative Susan Schwab traveled to Beijing this week to spur greater involvement by China in reviving the stalled Doha Round of World Trade Organization talks. The official Chinese news agency said Monday that China would be willing to help, but only if developed countries like the U.S. and European Union make "substantial contributions" first.
 
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China has reportedly agreed to import boneless U.S. beef from cattle under 31-months of age. That's the same deal the U.S. gave South Korea. But Penn told Dow Jones USDA wants China to completely lift its ban on U.S. beef in accordance with international guidelines.

USDA is again telling the buyer what they have to buy- Take what we give you or take nothing... :roll:
 

mrj

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Mike said:
OIE - Head of International Trade:


http://www.oie.int/eng/oie/organisation/en_BC_TRADE.htm

David Wilson. Hmmmmmmmm wonder what nationality he is?

Mike, what is the point of your question?

Questionning nationality according to his name, or his photo on the website?

There are a lot 'Wilson' surnames in various European countries, it would seem, since there are so many in the USA, and apparently most people of Caucasian race came to the this country from one of those.

So........how are we to determine the "nationality" of Dr. Wilson, and what effect does it have on anything?

Am I the only one who absolutely does not get the point????

MRJ
 

Sandhusker

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" Penn told Dow Jones either category would essentially allow all U.S. beef and beef products to be exported."

Yeah, right. How many examples of the buyer balking at these trade notions that we are trying to force down people's throats is it going to take for those clowns in the USDA to realize it doesn't work that way?
 

Mike

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MRJ said:
Mike said:
OIE - Head of International Trade:


http://www.oie.int/eng/oie/organisation/en_BC_TRADE.htm

David Wilson. Hmmmmmmmm wonder what nationality he is?

Mike, what is the point of your question?

Questionning nationality according to his name, or his photo on the website?

There are a lot 'Wilson' surnames in various European countries, it would seem, since there are so many in the USA, and apparently most people of Caucasian race came to the this country from one of those.

So........how are we to determine the "nationality" of Dr. Wilson, and what effect does it have on anything?

Am I the only one who absolutely does not get the point????

MRJ

Why you getting your panties in a wad MRJ? You run out of gin?

If you know the man's nationality why all the questions about a question?

You know damn well he's an american.

Try some Beefeaters. :lol:
 

flounder

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> US To Ask OIE For Official BSE Status

:lol: :lol: :lol2:


WE all know OIE caved into USDA BSE demands of a MRR region, which is nothing more than a legal tool to trade all strains of TSE globally. So for the US to ask the OIE for BSE status is a hoot. WE all know what the status is, it is BSE GBR III and should be BSE GBR IV due to the lies, cover-up, and terribly flawed June 2004 enhanced BSE Surveillance program. ...





EFSA Scientific Report on the Assessment of the Geographical BSE-Risk (GBR) of the United States of America (USA)
Last updated: 19 July 2005
Adopted July 2004 (Question N° EFSA-Q-2003-083)

Report
Summary
Summary of the Scientific Report

The European Food Safety Authority and its Scientific Expert Working Group on the Assessment of the Geographical Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) Risk (GBR) were asked by the European Commission (EC) to provide an up-to-date scientific report on the GBR in the United States of America, i.e. the likelihood of the presence of one or more cattle being infected with BSE, pre-clinically as well as clinically, in USA. This scientific report addresses the GBR of USA as assessed in 2004 based on data covering the period 1980-2003.

The BSE agent was probably imported into USA and could have reached domestic cattle in the middle of the eighties. These cattle imported in the mid eighties could have been rendered in the late eighties and therefore led to an internal challenge in the early nineties. It is possible that imported meat and bone meal (MBM) into the USA reached domestic cattle and leads to an internal challenge in the early nineties.

A processing risk developed in the late 80s/early 90s when cattle imports from BSE risk countries were slaughtered or died and were processed (partly) into feed, together with some imports of MBM. This risk continued to exist, and grew significantly in the mid 90’s when domestic cattle, infected by imported MBM, reached processing. Given the low stability of the system, the risk increased over the years with continued imports of cattle and MBM from BSE risk countries.

EFSA concludes that the current GBR level of USA is III, i.e. it is likely but not confirmed that domestic cattle are (clinically or pre-clinically) infected with the BSE-agent. As long as there are no significant changes in rendering or feeding, the stability remains extremely/very unstable. Thus, the probability of cattle to be (pre-clinically or clinically) infected with the BSE-agent persistently increases.







Publication date: 20 August 2004



EFSA Scientific Report on the Assessment of the Geographical BSE-Risk (GBR) of the United States of America (USA)

Adopted July 2004 (Question N° EFSA-Q-2003-083)


[Last updated 08 September 2004]
[Publication Date 20 August 2004]


http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/science/tse_assessments/gbr_assessments/573.html




Subject: [Docket No. FSIS-2006-0011] FSIS Harvard Risk Assessment of Bovine
Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE)



http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/Comments/2006-0011/2006-0011-1.pdf


[Docket No. 03-025IFA] FSIS Prohibition of the Use of Specified Risk Materials for Human Food and Requirement for the Disposition of Non-Ambulatory Disabled Cattle




http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dockets/02n0273/02n-0273-c000534-01-vol45.pdf


http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dockets/02n0273/02n-0273-c000490-vol40.pdf



THE SEVEN 1/2 SCIENTIST REPORT *** ;-)



http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dockets/02n0273/02n-0273-EC244-Attach-1.pdf



https://web01.aphis.usda.gov/regpublic.nsf/0/eff9eff1f7c5cf2b87256ecf000df08d?OpenDocument


http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dockets/02n0273/02n-0273-c000383-01-vol35.pdf



Docket No, 04-047-l Regulatory Identification No. (RIN) 091O-AF46 NEW BSE SAFEGUARDS (comment submission)




https://web01.aphis.usda.gov/regpublic.nsf/0/eff9eff1f7c5cf2b87256ecf000df08d?OpenDocument



03-025IF 03-025IF-631 Linda A. Detwiler [PDF]



http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/Comments/03-025IF/03-025IF-631.pdf




Specified Risk Materials (SRMs)

I am in full support of the interim final rule which prohibits SRMs from

being included in food for human consumption. In addition to the list of

tissues published in this rule, I am requesting that additional tissues be

added to the list. These would include dura

("sheath") covering the spinal cord and the ENTIRE INTESTINE (from pylorus

to rectum). The scientific justification is provided below. THESE SRMs

should also be prohibited from ANY FDA regulated food or product intended

for human consumption, including but not limited to flavorings, extracts,

etc. ...

Dr. Linda Detwiler comments in full;



http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/Comments/03-025IF/03-025IF-634.pdf





sample survey via oie for bse is about 400 test via 100 million cattle, if i am not mistaken.

MOST countries that went by these OIE guidelines all eventually went down with BSE. ...TSS


http://www.oie.int/downld/SC/2005/bse_2005.pdf




THE OIE has now shown they are nothing more than a National Trading Brokerage for all strains of animal TSE.
AS i said before, OIE should hang up there jock strap now, since it appears they will buckle every time a country makes some political hay about trade protocol, commodities and futures.

IF they are not going to be science based, they should do everyone a favor and dissolve there organization. ...

WHAT ABOUT RISK FACTORS TO OUR EXPORTING/IMPORTING PARTNERS FROM ALL OTHER TSEs IN THE USA, WITH RELATIONS TO SRMs ???



a.. BSE OIE

see full text ;


http://p079.ezboard.com/fwolftracksproductionsfrm2.showMessage?topicID=470.topic

http://blogs.nature.com/news/blog/2006/06/cjdrelated_disease_can_incubat.html



Terry S. Singeltary Sr. P.O. BOX 42 Bacliff, TEXAS USA
 
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Not sure what I think of this USDA announcement....I'm sure the results are already predetermined, or else the USDA wouldn't voluntarily go to the OIE, since they haven't been that close of followers of the OIE up to this point...

While I should just take this at face value- knowing how USDA has operated in the shadows, backrooms, and the grey areas the last few years I keep thinking they may also have ulterior motives...

Johanns has been awfully quiet and smugly overconfident lately in his ability to implement "his" Mandatory ID in "his" time schedule--Might this be a way to get Johanns mandatory ID program shoved down the nations throat if OIE tied it to the only way they could get "negligible" status... :???:
 

mrj

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Mike said:
MRJ said:
Mike said:
OIE - Head of International Trade:


http://www.oie.int/eng/oie/organisation/en_BC_TRADE.htm

David Wilson. Hmmmmmmmm wonder what nationality he is?

Mike, what is the point of your question?

Questionning nationality according to his name, or his photo on the website?

There are a lot 'Wilson' surnames in various European countries, it would seem, since there are so many in the USA, and apparently most people of Caucasian race came to the this country from one of those.

So........how are we to determine the "nationality" of Dr. Wilson, and what effect does it have on anything?

Am I the only one who absolutely does not get the point????

MRJ

Why you getting your panties in a wad MRJ? You run out of gin?

If you know the man's nationality why all the questions about a question?

You know damn well he's an american.

Try some Beefeaters. :lol:

I wouldn't drink that stuff on a bet! Or for any other reason, for that matter.

However, I have no reason to assume, nor any way to know that the man is "an american". Is that north american, or south american?

BTW, I had a suspicion, because you made such a case of it, that the guy was NOT a US citizen.

The REAL question: What difference does it make? Or are you just bored and have no productive work you need to do today?

MRJ
 

Mike

Well-known member
MRJ said:
Mike said:
MRJ said:
Mike, what is the point of your question?

Questionning nationality according to his name, or his photo on the website?

There are a lot 'Wilson' surnames in various European countries, it would seem, since there are so many in the USA, and apparently most people of Caucasian race came to the this country from one of those.

So........how are we to determine the "nationality" of Dr. Wilson, and what effect does it have on anything?

Am I the only one who absolutely does not get the point????

MRJ

Why you getting your panties in a wad MRJ? You run out of gin?

If you know the man's nationality why all the questions about a question?

You know damn well he's an american.

Try some Beefeaters. :lol:

I wouldn't drink that stuff on a bet! Or for any other reason, for that matter.

However, I have no reason to assume, nor any way to know that the man is "an american". Is that north american, or south american?

BTW, I had a suspicion, because you made such a case of it, that the guy was NOT a US citizen.

The REAL question: What difference does it make? Or are you just bored and have no productive work you need to do today?

MRJ

Because the OIE is permeated with USDA employees it was my assumption that this person was of American descent. Turns out he is not.

What difference does it make? The USDA has leaned on the OIE to make several changes in policy that lower the standards on worldwide food safety. By telling a country what they must import is assinine.

That's all. No big deal. It only pertains to the food I eat. Who cares?

How about some Tanqueray?
 
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Mike said:
MRJ said:
Mike said:
Why you getting your panties in a wad MRJ? You run out of gin?

If you know the man's nationality why all the questions about a question?

You know damn well he's an american.

Try some Beefeaters. :lol:

I wouldn't drink that stuff on a bet! Or for any other reason, for that matter.

However, I have no reason to assume, nor any way to know that the man is "an american". Is that north american, or south american?

BTW, I had a suspicion, because you made such a case of it, that the guy was NOT a US citizen.

The REAL question: What difference does it make? Or are you just bored and have no productive work you need to do today?

MRJ

Because the OIE is permeated with USDA employees it was my assumption that this person was of American descent. Turns out he is not.

What difference does it make? The USDA has leaned on the OIE to make several changes in policy that lower the standards on worldwide food safety. By telling a country what they must import is assinine.

That's all. No big deal. It only pertains to the food I eat. Who cares?

How about some Tanqueray?

Mike- back at the time they changed the classification qualifications and cut the backroom deal to get the classification they are going to get- the US USDA guy was in charge...
 

mrj

Well-known member
Mike, I don't drink Gin, either.

reader2, does Thiermann have your approval, or do you join the mob believing anyone with any connection with USDA is 'tainted' and engages in "back room deals"?

BTW, OT, what is your verification for your accusation that someone "cut a backroom deal..."?

We will be sooooo shocked if you post none!!!!

MRJ
 
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