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A May 7th solicitation by the U.S. Department of Agriculture seeks "the commercial acquisition of submachine guns [in] .40 Cal. S&W."

According to the solicitation, the Dept. of Agriculture wants the guns to have an "ambidextrous safety, semiautomatic or 2 round [bursts] trigger group, Tritium night sights front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore group) and scope (top rear), stock collapsible or folding," and a "30 rd. capacity" magazine.

They also want the submachine guns to have a "sling," be "lightweight," and have an "oversized trigger guard for gloved operation."

The solicitation directs "all responsible and/or interested sources...[to] submit their company name, point of contact, and telephone." Companies that submit information in a "timely" fashion "shall be considered by the agency for contact to determine weapon suitability."

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=9fc3a01217d03b0354e1e18b69aa7bad&tab=core&_cview=0
 

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Words gotten out. The cows have been angry, for a while.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI

silly feds.
 

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It's a dangerous job getting those food stamps delivered. Some bad neighborhoods, and this is valuable currency.
 

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hypocritexposer said:
"Shoot, shovel, shutup"


the BLM had guns too, at the Bundy ranch, and tucked their tails...

Feds tried but forgot to bury them deep enough and hide the holes. Important aspects of the practice.
 

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It amazes me that every agency needs to be armed...when the vast majority of those they deal with are law abiding citizens.

Why not just have LE attend/escort, like they do in other "non police state" Countries?

Our gun toting lawbreakers in Canada are not met by armed CRA agents, but the CRA might bring along an armed RCMP, if the need arises.
 
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I would imagine these are for the Forest Service- who's Rangers have law enforcement authority...

USDA also has Agents to enforce the Endangered Species Act and have officers involved in the trafficking of those- along with enforcement of GIPSA/Packers and Stockyards laws ... These Agents are armed too...

Hypo- one of the reasons different agencies each have law enforcement is because in the U.S. they wanted to limit the jurisdiction/authority of the law enforcement- rather than giving one Agency broad sweeping powers...

Rather than hire 200,000 FBI Agents (which has probably the broadest authority) - they split the powers up- with each Federal entity having limited power over only certain laws... That limits the powers of any single agency... One of the reasons I opposed the making of Dept. of Homeland Security- because it combined 22 former independent agencies under 1 head (many of these agencies which have law enforcement authority)...

This has happened on state levels too in some states... Some states have State Police- that have authority over any violation of the law in the state--BUT in states like Montana altho the Highway Patrol has tried to gain that type of authority- the Montana legislature/public has refused to give them that- so they are limited to just offenses occurring on a public roadway (unless called for mutual aid by a authorized local agency)...
 

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The world began to go to hell when the Nebraska State Patrol absorbed the DOT twits and armed them. They were nowhere near as arrogant back in the day when they weren't carrying. Now they recruit from the Hitler Youth.
 

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The USDA doesn't need to be packin'. Anyone who thinks so is insane.

The Feds bottled themselves in a corner when they murdered Vicki Weaver and her child. They successfully pissed off the whole nation with that stupidity, now everyone looks at them with disbelief.

And to make matters worse they send the same sniper to Waco where he made more controversy.

Law enforcement used to be somewhat respected...........

:roll:
 

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Hypo- one of the reasons different agencies each have law enforcement is because in the U.S. they wanted to limit the jurisdiction/authority of the law enforcement- rather than giving one Agency broad sweeping powers...

So, the Federal government gets "broad seeping powers", because they wanted to limit the authority jurisdiction/authority of the local law enforcement?

Makes sense...have you ever heard of the 10th?

Is there still a need for Sheriffs? Local LE?

Why duplicate? Does that increase costs at all?
 

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OT wrote:
one of the reasons different agencies each have law enforcement is because in the U.S. they wanted to limit the jurisdiction/authority of the law enforcement- rather than giving one Agency broad sweeping powers

That's the biggest crock of crap I've ever read. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Mike said:
OT wrote:
one of the reasons different agencies each have law enforcement is because in the U.S. they wanted to limit the jurisdiction/authority of the law enforcement- rather than giving one Agency broad sweeping powers

That's the biggest crock of crap I've ever read. :lol: :lol: :lol:


I said what you did, but gave him a chance to hang himself, once again... :D

He argues for smaller government, as a libertarian, all the while defending a centralized government.

I think he might have bumped his head, like Hillary....
 
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Mike said:
OT wrote:
one of the reasons different agencies each have law enforcement is because in the U.S. they wanted to limit the jurisdiction/authority of the law enforcement- rather than giving one Agency broad sweeping powers

That's the biggest crock of crap I've ever read. :lol: :lol: :lol:


The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) (French: Gendarmerie royale du Canada (GRC), literally 'Royal Gendarmerie of Canada'; colloquially known as the Mounties, and internally as 'the Force') is both a federal and a national police force of Canada, and one of the most recognized of its kind in the world. It is unique in the world as a national, federal, provincial, and municipal policing body. The RCMP provides policing services to all of Canada at a federal level, and also on a contract basis to the three territories, eight of Canada's provinces (the RCMP does not provide provincial or municipal policing in either Ontario or Quebec), more than 190 municipalities, 184 aboriginal communities, and three international airports.

The Mounties are unique in the world as a national, federal, provincial, and municipal policing body.... Most countries have separate enforcement authorities...

From its creation- there were some folks that have opposed having any type of national police force- but the gangster days of the 30's brought about the G-men/FBI packing guns and nationwide ability to go after these gangs and criminals.. They are the closest we have to a federal police- but they are limited too by statute- and job description...

But as more and more federal laws came to be- and with more specialized laws-- that is where/when we got the DEA, ATF, Border Patrol, Forest Rangers, United States Fish and Wildlife , Postal Inspectors, BLM Rangers, BIA Police , etc. etc... All with limited authority to their specialized situation...

Some agencies like the Postal Service/Inspector and US Marshal go back 200+ years... Others like the BIA Police , Border Patrol, US Fish and Wildlife, go back over 100... Agencies like the DEA and ATF were set up under Nixon in the 70's... The 70's was the days of paranoia when every federal agency started getting their own police from what I saw...
 

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One thing for sure. With all the corruption advanced by the Buckwheat Regime lately, the Federal agencies are going to need more investigators. :lol:
 

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Mike said:
One thing for sure. With all the corruption advanced by the Buckwheat Regime lately, the Federal agencies are going to need more investigators. :lol:

Don't you mean Instigators? :roll:

Prolly so. DOJ doesn't have any history of any investigations of the Buckwheat klan activities.
 

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