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Venezuela and Bolivia are supplying Iran with uranium

hypocritexposer

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JERUSALEM — Venezuela and Bolivia are supplying Iran with uranium for its nuclear program, according to a secret Israeli government report obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

The two South American countries are known to have close ties with Iran, but this is the first allegation that they are involved in the development of Iran's nuclear program, considered a strategic threat by Israel.
 

don

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who supplies israel's program? does anybody really think that once you have one nation in the region with nuclear capability the other countries won't be trying to do the same?
 

Mike

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don said:
who supplies israel's program? does anybody really think that once you have one nation in the region with nuclear capability the other countries won't be trying to do the same?

Does anybody really think that if Israel dismantles their nuclear program, that the other countries in the region won't be trying to establish one? :roll:
 
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Anonymous

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don said:
so the genie's out of the bottle.

Yep-- and since in 30+ years we haven't had any leadership that developed an alternative energy policy- and are dependent on every Oil cartel, Dictator and Arab Prince in the world-- we have to keep kissing Venezuelas hiney- since they (Citgo) supply 10-15% of our refining capacity of oil....

I watched a retired Army General testify to Congress the other day- and he said his entire career was spent protecting US oil interests- and that the majority of all US foreign policy is dictated to us by oil...
 

Lonecowboy

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Oldtimer said:
don said:
so the genie's out of the bottle.

Yep-- and since in 30+ years we haven't had any leadership that developed an alternative energy policy- and are dependent on every Oil cartel, Dictator and Arab Prince in the world-- we have to keep kissing Venezuelas hiney- since they (Citgo) supply 10-15% of our refining capacity of oil....

I watched a retired Army General testify to Congress the other day- and he said his entire career was spent protecting US oil interests- and that the majority of all US foreign policy is dictated to us by oil...

so why is obama shutting down US oil production and the price of oil going up a good thing OT??
 

Sandhusker

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"we have to keep kissing Venezuelas hiney"

That policy has changed. Now protocol is to put on a big grin and give him a ghetto shake.
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
don said:
so the genie's out of the bottle.

Yep-- and since in 30+ years we haven't had any leadership that developed an alternative energy policy- and are dependent on every Oil cartel, Dictator and Arab Prince in the world-- we have to keep kissing Venezuelas hiney- since they (Citgo) supply 10-15% of our refining capacity of oil....

I watched a retired Army General testify to Congress the other day- and he said his entire career was spent protecting US oil interests- and that the majority of all US foreign policy is dictated to us by oil...

First of all, do you agree with the General's interpretation of the last 30+ years?

Obviously this opinion that he came to was based on fact, right?
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
don said:
so the genie's out of the bottle.

Yep-- and since in 30+ years we haven't had any leadership that developed an alternative energy policy- and are dependent on every Oil cartel, Dictator and Arab Prince in the world-- we have to keep kissing Venezuelas hiney- since they (Citgo) supply 10-15% of our refining capacity of oil....

I watched a retired Army General testify to Congress the other day- and he said his entire career was spent protecting US oil interests- and that the majority of all US foreign policy is dictated to us by oil...

First of all, do you agree with the General's interpretation of the last 30+ years?

Obviously this opinion that he came to was based on fact, right?

I have no reason to doubt him....He went on to explain the tours of duty he had done protecting oil pipelines in southern Europe- and oil producing nations in Asia and the mid east...

And if you look at our countries history since after WWI-- our (and the UK's and Europes) policies in those areas have all centered around one thing- OIL...


"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."
1935--Marine Major General Smedley Butler- and twice recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor
 
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hypocritexposer said:
So which historical morals and values are Obama and his team protecting?

Those that have historically been acted upon, or those that he wishes for?

:???: Are you getting into MsSage's gin bottle- or Hoppy's reefer :???:
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
So which historical morals and values are Obama and his team protecting?

Those that have historically been acted upon, or those that he wishes for?

:???: Are you getting into MsSage's gin bottle- or Hoppy's reefer :???:

Not at all. You say the US has been involved in wars/military actions for the last 30+ years.

What have been the US's values and morals based on since the 70's, by your opinion?
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
So which historical morals and values are Obama and his team protecting?

Those that have historically been acted upon, or those that he wishes for?

:???: Are you getting into MsSage's gin bottle- or Hoppy's reefer :???:

Not at all. You say the US has been involved in wars/military actions for the last 30+ years.

What have been the US's values and morals based on since the 70's, by your opinion?

OIL .... Why were we involved in Iran? then why did we fund Iraq to kill Iranians? Why have we bent over backwards to protect Saudia Arabia- a country that has spent $ Zillions financing terrorists? Why were we fighting in the Baltic- where major oil lines run thru?

Like Jimmy Carter testified the other day-- oil/energy has been the principle driving force behind US policy since before his term--and still 30 years later- we have done nothing to develop an energy policy/plan to get us off the dependence of those foreign countries...
 

hypocritexposer

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Sounds like your opinion has been made up.

The US has been willing to have their young men and women die for the sole purpose of OIL.

So obviously you feel disgusted by these past values and morals, I understand that totally.

That's probably why you voted for Obama, so he could implement his plan to CHANGE the situation.

So what's his plan?
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Sounds like your opinion has been made up.

The US has been willing to have their young men and women die for the sole purpose of OIL.

So obviously you feel disgusted by these past values and morals, I understand that totally.

That's probably why you voted for Obama, so he could implement his plan to CHANGE the situation.

So what's his plan?

I don't know what the plan will be that comes out of Congress...While what they are talking so far is a start for getting us off the dependence on foreign oil- I think they are tying it to much to climate change.... I don't think they are going far enough with some alternatives like LP gas, coal, nuclear-- but its far from final--and at least its a plan...

And I'm sure this year a major comprehensive one will pass....Too bad they didn't do more for the past 30 years.....I had really hoped when the Repubs had total control they would do something- but they totally sold out to Big Oil...
 

hypocritexposer

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I don't know what the plan will be that comes out of Congress...While what they are talking so far is a start for getting us off the dependence on foreign oil- I think they are tying it to much to climate change.... I don't think they are going far enough with some alternatives like LP gas, coal, nuclear-- but its far from final--and at least its a plan...

Far from final, but they got a plan that you were willing to vote for.

Any other plans that are finalized, that you voted for?

Are they looking at Nuclear, or is that not a Liberal no no?

No Change, but at least you still have the unplanned Hope to grasp onto for the next 4 years.

And I'm sure this year a major comprehensive one will pass....Too bad they didn't do more for the past 30 years.....I had really hoped when the Repubs had total control they would do something- but they totally sold out to Big Oil...

The big oil that you would have them abandon? That only controls 10% or the world's oil and NG?

You better HOPE they don't give up anymore Global control. You won't have any opportunity to benefit off their profits.
 

loomixguy

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It was my impression that Barry wanted to tax the coal companies out of bidness, and there was going to be no way any new mines would be able to open up.....unless Barry has (gasp!) changed his mind. :shock:

AT's specs are so smeared with excrement that he seems to have forgotten that the LibTards don't want any nuclear, either. But keep blaming Bush, AT, that's your MO for ALL the world's problems. :p

Nevermind that there is no way to get totally off of fossil fuel for the next 100 years, no matter what..... :roll: :roll:
 

Steve

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don said:
who supplies israel's program? does anybody really think that once you have one nation in the region with nuclear capability the other countries won't be trying to do the same?

we went thru this before... Canada..
 

don

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exactly. canada supplies lots of countries with nuclear material. it's available out there and the genie is out of the bottle. the idea of non-proliferation is silly. it's like teenage sex. you aren't going to stop it. if canada said no more (and we won't) it would be available from someone else. if israel has nuclear capability why shouldn't there be a balance?
 

Sandhusker

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don said:
exactly. canada supplies lots of countries with nuclear material. it's available out there and the genie is out of the bottle. the idea of non-proliferation is silly. it's like teenage sex. you aren't going to stop it. if canada said no more (and we won't) it would be available from someone else. if israel has nuclear capability why shouldn't there be a balance?

There shouldn't be balance because the other guys have a history of aggression and/or an indiginous dangerous radicalism.
 
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