Red Robin said:You are taking a selfish view of social shame. Maybe it is worth the sacrifice to you to be publicly shuned but for this girls mother she gets no ("unconditional love" as you call it) , benefit. Her daughter didn't love her enough to keep it at least private but rather has "came out" with the news . She toils with it daily as do lots of families.CattleRMe said:Red Robin said:One thing left out of our discussion is the social shame on the family when a gay person "comes out" . I know two families who have been affected, one of the mothers was devestated and aged 10years in 2. The "gay" person lived in California and the family here in Arkansas . The family supposedly had no idea. The reason the "gay" person gave for telling the family was they just couldn't go on living the lie. The "lie" was entirely in their posession. The "gay" person didnt want to come visit more, act more "gay" when they were with their parents etc. Their reason in my mind was they didn't want to carry the burden of their sin alone. Shame on them. It's killing the mother.
Social shame does not play into it when you love someone. Unconditional love is loving someone no matter what. No ifs no ands no buts.
You are so self centered you don't even read what you wrote. Don't tell your mother! If you love her then you should be willing to give and sacrafice for her to be happy! You homos live for yourself and for the moment. Which brings me to another topic. I have never known a "gay" person who thought past the end of their nose. All the supposed good things a gay person gets from being gay is up front. The longer you live the worse it gets. There are no children, grandchildren. There is rarely a life long bond. For normal people the marriage gets better with age. Children come, then grandchildren, then the bliss of the 50yr wedding annivesary, rocking on the porch , etc. It gets better the longer your married. Homosexuality is a dead end road which gets rougher with age. It's a sin. Like any othe sin, it has a cost.CattleRMe said:Red Robin said:You are taking a selfish view of social shame. Maybe it is worth the sacrifice to you to be publicly shuned but for this girls mother she gets no ("unconditional love" as you call it) , benefit. Her daughter didn't love her enough to keep it at least private but rather has "came out" with the news . She toils with it daily as do lots of families.CattleRMe said:Social shame does not play into it when you love someone. Unconditional love is loving someone no matter what. No ifs no ands no buts.
When you love someone you are willing to give and sacrafice for them to be happy.
Red Robin said:CattleRMe said:Red Robin said:CattleRMe said:Red Robin said:You homos live for yourself and for the moment.
LOL ok one more time I'm a girl who likes men!
RR I might suggest you post more often you are a man from your rants I thought you were a girl until I read somewhere you were a cowboy in one of your posts. :wink:
Red Robin said:You are so self centered you don't even read what you wrote. Don't tell your mother! If you love her then you should be willing to give and sacrafice for her to be happy! You homos live for yourself and for the moment. Which brings me to another topic. I have never known a "gay" person who thought past the end of their nose. All the supposed good things a gay person gets from being gay is up front. The longer you live the worse it gets. There are no children, grandchildren. There is rarely a life long bond. For normal people the marriage gets better with age. Children come, then grandchildren, then the bliss of the 50yr wedding annivesary, rocking on the porch , etc. It gets better the longer your married. Homosexuality is a dead end road which gets rougher with age. It's a sin. Like any othe sin, it has a cost.CattleRMe said:Red Robin said:You are taking a selfish view of social shame. Maybe it is worth the sacrifice to you to be publicly shuned but for this girls mother she gets no ("unconditional love" as you call it) , benefit. Her daughter didn't love her enough to keep it at least private but rather has "came out" with the news . She toils with it daily as do lots of families.
When you love someone you are willing to give and sacrafice for them to be happy.