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fff

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On an earlier thread you toldl me the New York Times is not a valid source for reference and usee iusbvision instead.

I asked "what is iusbvision?" I seem to have missed your response. Please forgive me and post a link to your chosen source for referencing your comments. Thank you.
 

fff

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Vision, you seem to be all over the board here, but must have missed this thread. Thanks for your response. :lol:
 

Vision

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This is a reason why the NYT is not a reliable source during an election season.

I have tons more evidence than this, but a wall of text isnt needed.

http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/hotaircom-invites-the-new-york-times-on-a-stroll-down-smear-memory-lane/

The dates in the article have links to more evidence. If you wish to see them just go view them in the link above.

HotAir.com Invites the New York Times On a Stroll Down Smear Memory Lane!

September 19, 2008 — iusbvision

Today the NYT said complained that it no longer has a cozy relationship with John McCain. Ya think!?!

Hotair:

Adam Nagourney of the New York Times laments the fact that John McCain just isn’t the same free-wheeling, fun-loving guy on the campaign trail with reporters and looser on the stump. Perhaps he should do an archive search at his own newspaper to figure out why. No sooner did McCain win the primaries than the Gray Lady began smearing McCain, and did so repeatedly.

Let’s take a stroll down Smear Memory Lane, shall we?

February 21: The Times publishes a story that accuses him of having an affair with a lobbyist — or at least wanting to have an affair with her — based on the word of two disgruntled former staffers, who tell a ridiculous story about confronting McCain without any of his senior advisers ever knowing about it. (I wrote extensively about this at Captain’s Quarters.)


March 7: Elisabeth Bumiller writes a story about McCain exploding in anger over a question she asked; video later shows she lied.


March 10: The Times has Dr. Lawrence Altman issue a prognosis on McCain’s skin cancer with the handicap of never having been in his presence. They also criticize him for not releasing his medical records, despite the fact that he did in 1999, and that no other candidate had, either. In fact, Barack Obama still has not released his medical records.


April 10: Continuing in its tradition of fortunetelling in its news sections, the Times tells its readers that McCain may come under the influence of dreaded neocons. Its source? Another person who doesn’t talk with McCain.


May 4: The editorial board scolds McCain for not releasing his medical records — even though they note that he planned to do so on May 23rd. To date, they still have not once demanded that Barack Obama release his medical records, nor Joe Biden.


May 21: After the editorial, the McCain campaign refused to invite a reporter from the Times to the press conference in which McCain would release his records. The Times tell the campaign that they will write a negative story about the records unless they get their invite. I publish the story and ask for a response; the Times refuses to comment.


May 22, 24: The hit piece comes out, and it’s a weak complaint about the release of the records being “tightly controlled.” In 1999, though, McCain had fewer media outlets and earned the praise of the Times for his openness.


July 30: The paper that ran the “General Betray-Us” ad scolds McCain for his negative campaigning, failing to mention that Obama actually started running negative ads first.

Believe me, this is not a comprehensive list.
 

fff

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No, no, no. You're trying to change the subject. Same reference: iusbvision. Is that your own personal website that you're using for a reference? ROTFLMAO!

Come on. Give me the link or I'll have to see about charging you for cleaning up my monitor when I spit on it from laugher. :lol: :lol:
 

Vision

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fff said:
No, no, no. You're trying to change the subject. Same reference: iusbvision. Is that your own personal website that you're using for a reference? ROTFLMAO!

Come on. Give me the link or I'll have to see about charging you for cleaning up my monitor when I spit on it from laugher. :lol: :lol:

Yes Yes Yes - I posted the evidence, it has links that you can follow with each individual piece of evidence that YOU wont even try to refute.

Is this what you have dome down to FF, you lie about your posts, you lie about my posts... wow you sure are getting desperate.

I see the psychosis that you are going into... because every time you have engaged anyone here , especially me, you have gotten your butt kicked BIGTIME. Face it, you dont have what it takes between the ears to engage me in the arena of facts and ideas.... If you did you would.... but you cant so we all see your reaction.


....by the way the link is posted - try reading before you respond... LOL
 

fff

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Vision said:
fff said:
No, no, no. You're trying to change the subject. Same reference: iusbvision. Is that your own personal website that you're using for a reference? ROTFLMAO!

Come on. Give me the link or I'll have to see about charging you for cleaning up my monitor when I spit on it from laugher. :lol: :lol:

Yes Yes Yes - I posted the evidence, it has links that you can follow with each individual piece of evidence that YOU wont even try to refute.

Is this what you have dome down to FF, you lie about your posts, you lie about my posts... wow you sure are getting desperate.

I see the psychosis that you are going into... because every time you have engaged anyone here , especially me, you have gotten your butt kicked BIGTIME. Face it, you dont have what it takes between the ears to engage me in the arena of facts and ideas.... If you did you would.... but you cant so we all see your reaction.

Hot air and big talk don't get you anywhere, Vision. :lol: Are you going to admit now that your primary reference for posting on this board is YOUR OWN WEBSITE? Do you honestly think YOUR OWN WEBSITE is acceptable for an honest discussion? :lol: :lol: You do seem to be a bit arrogant, so maybe you do think just saying something makes it true. But here's a hint from an old dude: it doesn't. :lol: :lol:
 

Vision

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Like I said, the links and evidence on my web site have gone totally unchallenged by FFF.

If I am so wrong follow the links and see if I am incorrect.

I am not the primary source for that information, I just present the primary source information in a user friendly way and I give the links to the primary source information.

So FFF, if what is on my site is so wrong, lets see some evidence to challenge it. Just because I link to some primary source information doesnt make it wrong in the least as you are trying to assert.

Instead of these weak attempts to disqualify me in the argument, how about you show us some real verifiable evidence to show that you are qualified??

Everything that is posted there is absolutely true, the sources I link to are absolutely true. Prove it wrong if you can.
 

TSR

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fff said:
Vision said:
fff said:
No, no, no. You're trying to change the subject. Same reference: iusbvision. Is that your own personal website that you're using for a reference? ROTFLMAO!

Come on. Give me the link or I'll have to see about charging you for cleaning up my monitor when I spit on it from laugher. :lol: :lol:

Yes Yes Yes - I posted the evidence, it has links that you can follow with each individual piece of evidence that YOU wont even try to refute.

Is this what you have dome down to FF, you lie about your posts, you lie about my posts... wow you sure are getting desperate.

I see the psychosis that you are going into... because every time you have engaged anyone here , especially me, you have gotten your butt kicked BIGTIME. Face it, you dont have what it takes between the ears to engage me in the arena of facts and ideas.... If you did you would.... but you cant so we all see your reaction.

Hot air and big talk don't get you anywhere, Vision. :lol: Are you going to admit now that your primary reference for posting on this board is YOUR OWN WEBSITE? Do you honestly think YOUR OWN WEBSITE is acceptable for an honest discussion? :lol: :lol: You do seem to be a bit arrogant, so maybe you do think just saying something makes it true. But here's a hint from an old dude: it doesn't. :lol: :lol:

You mean all this stuff has been from his website? Well lets see, I am going to start a website about my cattle. I wonder what I should put in it and what should I leave out??
 

Vision

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kolanuraven said:
4 days and 142 posts by this Vision poster......WOW!!!


Now ,Vision is getting BORING...........................

Well when they post a lie, I post evidence to refute it, so that tells you how many lies they tell.

If they keep lying at this rate, I will be the biggest poster here in no time :)
 
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kolanuraven said:
4 days and 142 posts by this Vision poster......WOW!!!


Now ,Vision is getting BORING...........................

Vision is a right wing Dittmer type "group"- no individual- that do not identify themselves personally or where their funding comes from (same as Dittmers bunch) ....
 

fff

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Vision said:
kolanuraven said:
4 days and 142 posts by this Vision poster......WOW!!!


Now ,Vision is getting BORING...........................

Well when they post a lie, I post evidence to refute it, so that tells you how many lies they tell.

If they keep lying at this rate, I will be the biggest poster here in no time :)

Child, info FROM YOUR OWN WEBSITE is not evidence. You seem to have a bit of a comprehension problem. :lol:
 

Vision

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fff said:
Vision said:
kolanuraven said:
4 days and 142 posts by this Vision poster......WOW!!!


Now ,Vision is getting BORING...........................

Well when they post a lie, I post evidence to refute it, so that tells you how many lies they tell.

If they keep lying at this rate, I will be the biggest poster here in no time :)

Child, info FROM YOUR OWN WEBSITE is not evidence. You seem to have a bit of a comprehension problem. :lol:


My comprehension is just fine,

The info from my web site IS evidence because I link to all of the primary sources, ...primary sources which you wont look at because you know I am correct.

If I wasnt correct, you would be posting real evidence, which you are not.

PS -

Hey FFF - if it is not evidence you should have no problem finding "real" evidence to refute it right???
 

fff

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Vision said:
fff said:
Vision said:
Well when they post a lie, I post evidence to refute it, so that tells you how many lies they tell.

If they keep lying at this rate, I will be the biggest poster here in no time :)

Child, info FROM YOUR OWN WEBSITE is not evidence. You seem to have a bit of a comprehension problem. :lol:

My comprehension is just fine,

The info from my web site IS evidence because I link to all of the primary sources, ...primary sources which you wont look at because you know I am correct.

If I wasnt correct, you would be posting real evidence, which you are not.

PS -

Hey FFF - if it is not evidence you should have no problem finding "real" evidence to refute it right???

Keep telling yourself that. :lol:
 

TexasBred

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Vision said:
kolanuraven said:
4 days and 142 posts by this Vision poster......WOW!!!


Now ,Vision is getting BORING...........................

Well when they post a lie, I post evidence to refute it, so that tells you how many lies they tell.

If they keep lying at this rate, I will be the biggest poster here in no time :)

Vision can you believe it...OT has 15,000 post and Kila has almost 7000 and they're bitching about you having 145....the epitomy of hypocricy
 

Vision

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fff said:
Vision said:
fff said:
Child, info FROM YOUR OWN WEBSITE is not evidence. You seem to have a bit of a comprehension problem. :lol:

My comprehension is just fine,

The info from my web site IS evidence because I link to all of the primary sources, ...primary sources which you wont look at because you know I am correct.

If I wasnt correct, you would be posting real evidence, which you are not.

PS -

Hey FFF - if it is not evidence you should have no problem finding "real" evidence to refute it right???

Keep telling yourself that. :lol:

...and there is your admission that you have no evidence at all to back up your nonsense.

FFF you are not going to wear me down or out last me. ... and as we all have seen, you certainly cant touch me in the arena of facts and ideas.

Every time you post a lie and am going to post the evidence that can be followed to verify that you are just plain wrong. I am not going to stop and several people here have asked me to keep doing it.

Your days of posting unchallenged lies and propaganda are over.
 

fff

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Vision said:
fff said:
Vision said:
My comprehension is just fine,

The info from my web site IS evidence because I link to all of the primary sources, ...primary sources which you wont look at because you know I am correct.

If I wasnt correct, you would be posting real evidence, which you are not.

PS -

Hey FFF - if it is not evidence you should have no problem finding "real" evidence to refute it right???

Keep telling yourself that. :lol:

...and there is your admission that you have no evidence at all to back up your nonsense.

FFF you are not going to wear me down or out last me. ... and as we all have seen, you certainly cant touch me in the arena of facts and ideas.

Every time you post a lie and am going to post the evidence that can be followed to verify that you are just plain wrong. I am not going to stop and several people here have asked me to keep doing it.

Your days of posting unchallenged lies and propaganda are over.

:lol: What "facts" have you posted? I've only seen hot air backed up by YOUR OWN WEBSITE.
 

Vision

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fff said:
Vision said:
fff said:
Keep telling yourself that. :lol:

...and there is your admission that you have no evidence at all to back up your nonsense.

FFF you are not going to wear me down or out last me. ... and as we all have seen, you certainly cant touch me in the arena of facts and ideas.

Every time you post a lie and am going to post the evidence that can be followed to verify that you are just plain wrong. I am not going to stop and several people here have asked me to keep doing it.

Your days of posting unchallenged lies and propaganda are over.

:lol: What "facts" have you posted? I've only seen hot air backed up by YOUR OWN WEBSITE.

Ok now you are just lying about what is on my web site. Anyone who goes there and takes a look around can see that I have lots of links and references to other and primary sources.
:roll:

Telling lies that transparent gets a bit silly.
 

Vision

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So lets take a typical example of the work on my site shall we ???

Well lets see..

Lets take a look at my article on Mike Oxley and how he is lying to cover up his mistakes. It is a typical example of my work

Here is the link and let us look at all of ethe primary sources I linked to in the article. http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/mike-oxley-another-congressman-trying-to-lie-his-way-out-of-blame-for-the-mortgage-crash/


Now I will list each link that is in the article that I wrote -

The Financial Times
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8780c35e-7e91-11dd-b1af-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1

A list of references from White House and Administration Testimony
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/09/20080919-15.html

A Statement from former US Senator Sunuunu
http://www.politickernh.com/brianlawson/3417/sununu-statement-united-states-government-takeover-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac

Some Video from Hotair.com
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/30/video-where-was-dodd-during-the-fannie-mae-collapse/

An article from All Business about the Senate Hearings
http://www.allbusiness.com/government/532756-1.html

Congressional record
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=109-h20051026-46&bill=h109-1461#sMonofilemx003Ammx002Fmmx002Fmmx002Fmhomemx002Fmgovtrackmx002Fmdatamx002Fmusmx002Fm109mx002Fmcrmx002Fmh20051026-46.xmlElementm3m0m0m

The Wall Street Journal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122290574391296381.html?mod=article-outset-box

Two links to congressional testimony from the Federal Reserve
http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/testimony/2004/20040224/default.htm

and here http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/testimony/2005/20050406/default.htm

My article with a transcript and video from Barney Frank
http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/watch-a-politician-lie-watch-oreilly-go-nuclear-on-barney-frank/

A 20 minute interview video from former House Speaker Newt Gingrich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXk3Od5-AhY
 
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