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Vote Democratic to save the Republican Party

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Anonymous

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About what I've been saying the last 3 years- the Republicans of the past 8 years have been such a catastrophe- they don't deserve mine or any Americans vote...And probably won't get mine until the come back to the traditional Republicanism- and get away from being the extreme social conservative party as their main focus....

I did vote for one tho- old Kelleher (and I mean old- 85 years old former Parliamentarian candidate for President that was the only candidate the divided Repubs in this state could get to run)- and I did that only as an anti incumbent- anti Baucus vote...Doesn't stand a chance of winning...

Vote Democratic to save the Republican Party

Wednesday, October 22, 2008
It turns out that voting Democratic — not just for president, but for congress too — might be the only way to save the Republican Party.

Over at the conservative Reason Online, Radley Balko explains:
http://www.reason.com/news/show/129599.html

Nothing short of defeat will put the GOP back on its limited government track. … In the last eight years, the GOP has given us a monstrous new federal bureaucracy in the Department of Homeland Security. In the prescription drug benefit, it’s given us the largest new federal entitlement since the Johnson administration. Federal spending — even on items not related to war or national security — has soared. And we now get to watch as the party that’s supposed to be ‘free market’ nationalizes huge chunks of the economy’s financial sector.

We’ve all watched as the Republican party has moved ever away from its roots as the party of small government, fiscal responsibility, and free enterprise, to a party dominated by a kind of lunatic fringe that is anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-immigration, and anti-environment. Sarah Palin has been characterized as the last gasp of that fringe.

Doug Mataconis on Below the Beltway
http://belowthebeltway.com/2008/10/22/why-the-republicans-deserve-to-lose-and-lose-big/
points out that electing Democrats may be the only way to save us from socialism, since the current Republican party has “tarnished the reputation of free market ideas in the minds of a public that doesn’t know better”. In the same way that “only Nixon could go to China”, only a Republican president (like Bush or McCain) could nationalize our financial system.

Part of the problem with the current Republican party is that they have pushed away or destroyed moderates like General Colin Powell (who at one time was considered a good candidate for president).

Another example is Slade Mead,
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/uselectionroadtrip/2008/oct/20/uselections2008-newmexico
who was elected to the Arizona Senate in 2002, only to be rejected by the Republican party because he didn’t support their efforts to “dismantle public schools” and replace them with religious and charter schools. The same article describes how in neighboring New Mexico, social conservatives pushed moderates out of positions of power in the Republican party.

Rush Limbaugh himself once said that if McCain got the nomination, “it’s going to destroy the Republican Party. It’s going to change it forever, be the end of it!” Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal disagrees,
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120120952618514493.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
claiming that it is Bush who destroyed the Republican party, and if “you don’t know what broke the elephant you can’t put it together again. The party cannot re-find itself if it can’t trace back the moment at which it became lost. It cannot heal an illness whose origin is kept obscure.”

By its actions — grasping onto Palin, and running negative and hateful campaigns — the Republican party is showing that it still doesn’t know how it is destroying itself. Glenn Greenwald
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/10/22/anti_american/index.html
has an excellent column giving concrete examples of how confused the Republicans are acting. Only by voting Democratic can we save the Republican Party from itself.
 

Texan

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Oldtimer said:
About what I've been saying the last 3 years- the Republicans of the past 8 years have been such a catastrophe- they don't deserve mine or any Americans vote...
So...you condemn people who vote for Republicans strictly because of their party affiliation. You like to insult them and call them names like, "cultists," "goose steppers," etc.

But it's okay for people to vote AGAINST Republicans strictly because of their party affiliation? :?
 
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Texan said:
Oldtimer said:
About what I've been saying the last 3 years- the Republicans of the past 8 years have been such a catastrophe- they don't deserve mine or any Americans vote...
So...you condemn people who vote for Republicans strictly because of their party affiliation. You like to insult them and call them names like, "cultists," "goose steppers," etc.

But it's okay for people to vote AGAINST Republicans strictly because of their party affiliation? :?

I did vote for one tho- old Kelleher (and I mean old- 85 years old former Parliamentarian candidate for President that was the only candidate the divided Repubs in this state could get to run)- and I did that only as an anti incumbent- anti Baucus vote...Doesn't stand a chance of winning...

I voted for one- since he wasn't in Congress (or probably even a Repub) at the time when they changed their direction of priority or when they reeked havoc upon the country...
 

Ben H

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Rush just said the other day that Obama being president will set the stage to totally rebuild the conservative party.
 

RobertMac

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Nothing short of defeat will put the GOP back on its limited government track. … In the last eight years, the GOP has given us a monstrous new federal bureaucracy in the Department of Homeland Security. In the prescription drug benefit, it’s given us the largest new federal entitlement since the Johnson administration. Federal spending — even on items not related to war or national security — has soared. And we now get to watch as the party that’s supposed to be ‘free market’ nationalizes huge chunks of the economy’s financial sector.

We’ve all watched as the Republican party has moved ever away from its roots as the party of small government, fiscal responsibility, and free enterprise, to a party dominated by a kind of lunatic fringe that is anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-immigration, and anti-environment. Sarah Palin has been characterized as the last gasp of that fringe.

OT, it is the blue-blood, liberal, big business GOP that has given us the run-away government spending. They are the ones demonizing traditional, social conservatism and run them out of the party. They are the same Republicans that are attacking Palin and McCain for selecting her as a running mate. They fear her because she will unite the party around true conservative principles. These liberal Republicans should go ahead and get in bed with the socialist Democrats...like you have!!!!

Mark my words...Palin will be the Republican candidate for President in 4 years...regardless of who wins this election!
 

backhoeboogie

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Ben H said:
Rush just said the other day that Obama being president will set the stage to totally rebuild the conservative party.

Think about that.

Pelosi backrupts the rest of the US. Maintains the do nothing congress currently in control, who is she going to blame then?

Obama swears to uphold the constitution that he does not agree with - you know where that's going. "We need to look into it" means I don't know or else I don't want to say something that is not PC.

Rush is dead right. If Obama is elected this well could be the end of the democratic party.
 

Texan

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Yep, that's true. The most liberal of the Dems are in control and are already rubbing their greedy little hands together thinking about having an ultra-liberal in the White House. They can't wait to get their hands on all of those tax dollars - and even increase tax revenues so they will have more to throw away.

It just amazes me that people here who have complained about President Bush having a blank check from a Republican Congress think that it will be okay to have a President Obama signing legislation for a liberal Democrat Congress. Amazing.
 

RobertMac

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Rush is not saying to elect Obama so the Republican party can be rebuilt...he understands the damage a liberal Congress and liberal President will do to the country...especially if the Senate has a 60 vote Democratic majority...if so, we will see if the blue dog Democrats will vote their conscience or party line.

And Obama won't end the Democrat party...to many true believers!!!
 
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