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Voters overwhelmingly want to change or repeal Obamacare

Tam

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Dec. 3rd 2013, Voters overwhelmingly want to change or repeal the new national health care law. One-out-of-two want to scrap it completely and start over again.

Given the problems associated with the law, a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters believe Congress and the president should repeal it and start again from the beginning. That’s up from 43% support in late October. Another 31% think Congress and the president should go through the law piece by piece to improve it.

Just 16% want to leave the law the way it is, down slightly from 18% four weeks ago.

Obama said today the bill will not be repealed while he is President. I guess the only answer to this BIG F'ING problem is the majority that wants it repealed had better get out the vote and elect enough Republicans that they can get a veto proof vote in both houses to over ride what Obama wants before he destroys the entire US Healthcare system. Or at least enough Republicans in both houses to impeach the Dictator in Chief Obama for over stepping his executive power when it comes to re-writing bills after they have been passed by the official bill writers in the Congress and Senate. It is Obama's job to make sure the Congressional passed bills are enacted, it is not his Constitutional right to rewrite the bills once they are passed and signed. The Republicans need to rein him in as we all know if Reid is willing to push the Nuclear Option for him and his radical nominees we also know Reid is never going to step in and tell Obama he does not have the right to do what he is and has been doing. :mad:

The Republicans need to step up or get out of the way and allow the Tea Party Conservatives to take a swing at putting Obama back in the Oval Office only doing what HE IS CONSTITUTIONAL LEGALLY PERMITTED TO DO. :x
 

Tam

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Oh but to listen to all the Democrap talking heads the Republicans have no plan. :mad:


Obama said the other day that he will work with anyone and if anyone has a good idea bring it to him and he will look at it. But the question is will he do anything with it? And we all know that answer is NO as remember he won he writes the bills. Sure He has asked the Republicans to meet with him but when they do, all that becomes of it is him spewing his crap and telling the Republican THEY NEED TO WORK WITH HIM, AS IN THEY NEED TO SUPPORT HIM AND HIS LEFTWINGNUT AGENDA. Obama's idea of Bipartisanship is everyone to buckle and do as he wants and forget what the majority of Americans REALLY WANT. :mad:
 

Steve

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Tam said:
Oh but to listen to all the Democrap talking heads the Republicans have no plan.

if you listen to the democrats,.. you would think the republicans were to blame for ALL their failures.. despite not one voting for the Obama-care plan..

maybe that's why I don't listen to them.. they don't make any sense..
 

Steve

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Tam said:
Obama said the other day that he will work with anyone and if anyone has a good idea bring it to him and he will look at it.

it would be funny if the liberals didn't believe him...

but he now "claims" to want support for what the republicans proposed in late October..
 

TSR

Well-known member
Tam said:
Dec. 3rd 2013, Voters overwhelmingly want to change or repeal the new national health care law. One-out-of-two want to scrap it completely and start over again.

Given the problems associated with the law, a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters believe Congress and the president should repeal it and start again from the beginning. That’s up from 43% support in late October. Another 31% think Congress and the president should go through the law piece by piece to improve it.

Just 16% want to leave the law the way it is, down slightly from 18% four weeks ago.

Obama said today the bill will not be repealed while he is President. I guess the only answer to this BIG F'ING problem is the majority that wants it repealed had better get out the vote and elect enough Republicans that they can get a veto proof vote in both houses to over ride what Obama wants before he destroys the entire US Healthcare system. Or at least enough Republicans in both houses to impeach the Dictator in Chief Obama for over stepping his executive power when it comes to re-writing bills after they have been passed by the official bill writers in the Congress and Senate. It is Obama's job to make sure the Congressional passed bills are enacted, it is not his Constitutional right to rewrite the bills once they are passed and signed. The Republicans need to rein him in as we all know if Reid is willing to push the Nuclear Option for him and his radical nominees we also know Reid is never going to step in and tell Obama he does not have the right to do what he is and has been doing. :mad:

The Republicans need to step up or get out of the way and allow the Tea Party Conservatives to take a swing at putting Obama back in the Oval Office only doing what HE IS CONSTITUTIONAL LEGALLY PERMITTED TO DO. :x

All the polls that I have seen show that most Americans want it fixed, not repealed. I guess that could have changed, haven't looked at the polls lately. Who do you think will be the Rep's presidential candidate in 16??
 

Tam

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TSR said:
Tam said:
Dec. 3rd 2013, Voters overwhelmingly want to change or repeal the new national health care law. One-out-of-two want to scrap it completely and start over again.

Given the problems associated with the law, a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters believe Congress and the president should repeal it and start again from the beginning. That’s up from 43% support in late October. Another 31% think Congress and the president should go through the law piece by piece to improve it.

Just 16% want to leave the law the way it is, down slightly from 18% four weeks ago.

Obama said today the bill will not be repealed while he is President. I guess the only answer to this BIG F'ING problem is the majority that wants it repealed had better get out the vote and elect enough Republicans that they can get a veto proof vote in both houses to over ride what Obama wants before he destroys the entire US Healthcare system. Or at least enough Republicans in both houses to impeach the Dictator in Chief Obama for over stepping his executive power when it comes to re-writing bills after they have been passed by the official bill writers in the Congress and Senate. It is Obama's job to make sure the Congressional passed bills are enacted, it is not his Constitutional right to rewrite the bills once they are passed and signed. The Republicans need to rein him in as we all know if Reid is willing to push the Nuclear Option for him and his radical nominees we also know Reid is never going to step in and tell Obama he does not have the right to do what he is and has been doing. :mad:

The Republicans need to step up or get out of the way and allow the Tea Party Conservatives to take a swing at putting Obama back in the Oval Office only doing what HE IS CONSTITUTIONAL LEGALLY PERMITTED TO DO. :x

All the polls that I have seen show that most Americans want it fixed, not repealed. I guess that could have changed, haven't looked at the polls lately. Who do you think will be the Rep's presidential candidate in 16??

More Health Care Polls: Support for Obama and Democrats' Health Care Law
Polling Data
Poll Date----- Favor Repeal -------Oppose Repeal ----- Spread

RCP Average 6/28 - 11/10 -- 52.3---- 42.5 Favor Repeal +9.8
Rasmussen Reports 11/9 - 11/10 10---- 55 -------41----- Favor Repeal +14
FOX News 7/21 - 7/23 ----- 53------ 40 ------Favor Repeal +13
Quinnipiac 7/1 - 7/8 ------- 49------ 43------- Favor Repeal +6
CNN/Opinion Research 6/28 - 7/1 ----- 52---- 46 -----Favor Repeal +6

All Repeal of Health Care Law: Favor/Oppose Polling Data

Not sure what polls you are watching but it looks pretty clear people support REPEAL. ANd maybe this is why a MAJORITY support repeal :wink:

Public Approval of Health Care Law

Polling Data

Poll Date For/Favor Against/Oppose Spread

RCP Average 11/6 - 11/24 -- 38.6---- 57.1 ------Against/Oppose +18.5
CNN/Opinion Research 11/18 - 11/20 ----- 40----- 58----- Against/Oppose +18
Gallup 11/23 - 11/24 -------- 40-------- 54-------- Against/Oppose +14
Rasmussen Reports* 11/23 - 11/24 ------- 36-------- 58----- Against/Oppose +22
CBS News 11/15 - 11/18 ------ 31--------- 61------ Against/Oppose +30
Reuters/Ipsos 11/14 - 11/18 ------ 41-------- 59------ Against/Oppose +18
ABC News/Wash Post 11/14 - 11/17 ------ 43------- 55------ Against/Oppose +12
Quinnipiac 11/6 - 11/11 ---------- 39 ----------55------- Against/Oppose +16

AS for your question How about we wait to see what happens in the 2014 election before we start guessing who might be running in 2016. Oh but I will say one thing about 2016 whom ever runs will be a hell of a lot better than the Blamer and Chief occupying the Oval Office right now. :roll:

BTW did you hear about the new poll Harvard just put out. I find it really funny that Obama called a group of millennials in to speak to them to gin up support considering the results that say.

Young Americans are turning against Barack Obama and Obamacare, according to a new survey of millennials, people between the ages of 18 and 29 who are vital to the fortunes of the president and his signature health care law. The most startling finding of Harvard University's Institute of Politics: A majority of Americans under age 25--the youngest millennials--would favor throwing Obama out of office...The results blow a gaping hole in the belief among many Democrats that Obama's two elections signaled a durable grip on the youth vote. Indeed, millennials are not so hot on their president....

(1) One-third of young Americans consider themselves "liberal," 26 percent describe their views as "moderate," and 37 percent lean "conservative."

(2) President Obama's overall job approval rating among Millennials is (41/54), an 11-point drop since April. On every specific issue polled, Obama's level of support ranges from 28 percent (deficits, at 28/66) to 37 percent (Iran, at 37/56).

(3) Obamacare is a yoke weighing down this presidency. The law's approval rating languishes at 38 percent among young people, with a plurality responding that Obama's signature initiative will reduce the quality of their healthcare, and a majority expecting higher costs. Just 11 percent of those polled believe Obamacare will lower costs.

(4) Just 22 percent of Millennials indicated that they're likely to enroll in Obamacare. More than double that number said they're inclined against doing so. These results should worry supporters of the law, which relies on a sizable percentage of young, healthy Americans overpaying for health insurance to balance out the risk pools.

(5) Asked whether they would recall and replace their member of Congress if given the opportunity, young people split evenly on the question (45/45). What about Barack Obama? A slim plurality (47/46) said they'd boot Obama from office if given the opportunity. As National Journal's write-up above highlighted, a 52 percent majority younger Millennials (aged 18-24) said they'd show Obama the door.
 

Tam

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Another interesting poll

President Obama Job Approval - Economy

Polling Data

Poll Date ----Approve ------ Disapprove ------- Spread

RCP Average 10/30 - 12/2 ---- 37.3 ------ 58.9 ------- -21.6
The Economist/YouGov 11/30 - 12/2 ----- 37 -------- 54------- -17
CBS News 11/15 - 11/18 -------- 37--------- 60--------- -23
ABC News/Wash Post 11/14 - 11/17 ------ 42 --------56--------- -14
FOX News 11/10 - 11/12 ---------- 37 ---------60--------- -23
Quinnipiac 11/6 - 11/11 ---------- 38 -----------59 ----------- -21
Gallup 11/7 - 11/10 ------------- 39------------- 58---------- -19
Pew Research 10/30 - 11/6 --------- 31------------ 65 ----------- -34


Now didn't Obama claim he had to pass the Stimulus bill and Obamacare to fix the economy? :?

Looks like he REALLY knew what he was talking about doesn't it. :roll:

Another interesting poll

1 week ago
President's marks as manager take hit in new CNN/ORC poll
Posted by
CNN Political Unit

Washington (CNN) - Only four out of 10 Americans believe President Barack Obama can manage the federal government effectively, according to a new national poll.

And a CNN/ORC International survey released Monday morning also indicates that 53% of Americans now believe that Obama is not honest and trustworthy, the first time that a clear majority in CNN polling has felt that way.

According to the survey, conducted last Monday through Wednesday, 40% say the President can manage the government effectively. That 40% figure is down 12 percentage points from June and is the worst score Obama received among the nine personal characteristics tested in the new poll.

"A lot of attention has focused on the President's numbers on honesty in new polling the past three weeks, but it looks like the recent controversy over Obamacare has had a bigger impact on his status as an effective manager of the government, and that may be what is really driving the drop in Obama's approval rating this fall," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said.

Does being an effective manager count more than honesty?

"Just ask Bill Clinton, whose overall approval ratings remained high during and after the Monica Lewinsky scandal because three-quarters of all Americans thought he could get things done, even though only about one in five said he was honest," Holland added.

Obama's woes are not limited to honesty and his managerial skills. Fifty-six percent say he is not a person they admire, and an equal number say he does not agree with them on important issues. Fifty-six percent also say he does not inspire confidence, and 53% don't view him as a strong and decisive leader. All of those figures are all-time records for Obama in CNN polling.

There is a silver lining in the poll for the President: He's still seen as someone who cares about ordinary Americans, six in 10 say he has a vision for the country's future, and seven in 10 say he is likable–his best attribute of the nine items tested in this poll. But the numbers are down for both admiration and likeability.

"It's clear that views of Obama as a person - once his strong suit - have taken a hit in October and throughout 2013," said Holland.

The poll was conducted November 18-20 for CNN by ORC International, with 843 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

GEE I wonder why Oldtimer isn't posting these or the Last night funny guys jokes anymore? :?

Oh hey He has gone into hiding so he doesn't have to explain his support of the guy these polls are about. :wink:
 

Steve

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a 52 percent majority younger Millennials (aged 18-24) said they'd show Obama the door.

part of me wants to let them suffer the consequences of their vote and laugh as they are forced to pay for that with outrageous healthcare costs,.. but for now I just HOPE they wise up a bit and vote for real CHANGE in 2014..

maybe they could protest enough that Obama would step down.. :lol: like the other dictators..
 

Tam

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Oh and about that silver lining and Obama being seen as someone who has a vision for the future.

Direction of Country Polling Data


PollDate -----------Right Direction --------------Wrong Track -------Spread

RCP Average 11/14 - 12/2 -----------24.4 ----------66.2---------- -41.8
The Economist/YouGov 11/30 - 12/2 ---24 -----------62 ------------- -38
Rasmussen Reports 11/25 - 12/1-------- 25----------- 67 ------------ -42
Reuters/Ipsos 11/22 - 11/26 -------------19----------- 64------------ -45
CBS News 11/15 - 11/18----------------- 27------------ 68 ------------ -41
ABC News/Wash Post 11/14 - 11/17---- 27------------- 70----------- -43

All Direction of Country Polling Data

What kind of silver lining is it when a very large majority thinks the US is going in the WRONG DIRECTION with Obama vision for the future? :? :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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TSR said:
Tam said:
Dec. 3rd 2013, Voters overwhelmingly want to change or repeal the new national health care law. One-out-of-two want to scrap it completely and start over again.

Given the problems associated with the law, a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters believe Congress and the president should repeal it and start again from the beginning. That’s up from 43% support in late October. Another 31% think Congress and the president should go through the law piece by piece to improve it.

Just 16% want to leave the law the way it is, down slightly from 18% four weeks ago.

Obama said today the bill will not be repealed while he is President. I guess the only answer to this BIG F'ING problem is the majority that wants it repealed had better get out the vote and elect enough Republicans that they can get a veto proof vote in both houses to over ride what Obama wants before he destroys the entire US Healthcare system. Or at least enough Republicans in both houses to impeach the Dictator in Chief Obama for over stepping his executive power when it comes to re-writing bills after they have been passed by the official bill writers in the Congress and Senate. It is Obama's job to make sure the Congressional passed bills are enacted, it is not his Constitutional right to rewrite the bills once they are passed and signed. The Republicans need to rein him in as we all know if Reid is willing to push the Nuclear Option for him and his radical nominees we also know Reid is never going to step in and tell Obama he does not have the right to do what he is and has been doing. :mad:

The Republicans need to step up or get out of the way and allow the Tea Party Conservatives to take a swing at putting Obama back in the Oval Office only doing what HE IS CONSTITUTIONAL LEGALLY PERMITTED TO DO. :x

All the polls that I have seen show that most Americans want it fixed, not repealed. I guess that could have changed, haven't looked at the polls lately. Who do you think will be the Rep's presidential candidate in 16??


obama is "fixing" it by indiscriminately deciding which parts of legislation will and will not be followed.

What do you call a political system, TSR, when a President does not follow the "Laws of the Land"?
 

Tam

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
TSR said:
Tam said:
Obama said today the bill will not be repealed while he is President. I guess the only answer to this BIG F'ING problem is the majority that wants it repealed had better get out the vote and elect enough Republicans that they can get a veto proof vote in both houses to over ride what Obama wants before he destroys the entire US Healthcare system. Or at least enough Republicans in both houses to impeach the Dictator in Chief Obama for over stepping his executive power when it comes to re-writing bills after they have been passed by the official bill writers in the Congress and Senate. It is Obama's job to make sure the Congressional passed bills are enacted, it is not his Constitutional right to rewrite the bills once they are passed and signed. The Republicans need to rein him in as we all know if Reid is willing to push the Nuclear Option for him and his radical nominees we also know Reid is never going to step in and tell Obama he does not have the right to do what he is and has been doing. :mad:

The Republicans need to step up or get out of the way and allow the Tea Party Conservatives to take a swing at putting Obama back in the Oval Office only doing what HE IS CONSTITUTIONAL LEGALLY PERMITTED TO DO. :x

All the polls that I have seen show that most Americans want it fixed, not repealed. I guess that could have changed, haven't looked at the polls lately. Who do you think will be the Rep's presidential candidate in 16??


obama is "fixing" it by indiscriminately deciding which parts of legislation will and will not be followed.

What do you call a political system, TSR, when a President does not follow the "Laws of the Land"?

I'm glad you said LAWS of the Land as Obama has not followed more than a few Laws that the Congress has passed and he is required by the CONSTITUTION to enact. You know it is bad when Liberal Professors are starting to complain. :x
 
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