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voting in two states is common around here.

Steve

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Trump is right on one fact... there are many who live in several states maintaining voting rights in both.. one high profile local case..

"You have people that are registered who are dead, who are illegals, who are in two states. You have people registered in two states. They're registered in a New York and a New Jersey. They vote twice. There are millions of votes, in my opinion," Mr. Trump said.

DeLanzo Campaign Questions Voll's Residency; Voll Responds

The Middle Township Committee race has lately focused on the question of Independent Michael J. Voll’s residency, based on voting records in Florida. He is to appear before the Cape May County Board of Elections on Wed., Sept. 8 at 9 a.m. to address the matter, and to ascertain if he is eligible to vote here, something he claims he is.

“Voll registered to vote in Florida on April 8, 2005.

“Shockingly, Voll then voted in the Middle Township School Board election just 11 days later on April 19, 2005.

“Voll then registered in Middle Township in June 2005, just two months after having he registered in Florida.

“Voll remained registered in Florida and in Middle Township for the next five years.

“Voll was aware of his dual registration as evidenced by the fact that since 2005 he voted in Middle Township, then he voted in Florida in November 2008, then voted in Middle Township again, without ever registering again in either place after 2005.

“Voll was quoted in the Cape May County Gazette that being registered in two places at one time “would be illegal.”

“Voll continued to maintain his voter registration in Florida, and in Middle Township, conduct he admits is illegal.
http://www.capemaycountyherald.com/news/politics_elections/article_3b6a8452-be98-53d0-bd83-744f8e044577.html

sadly,.. there is no real "mechinizim to punish folk like him.

"What I want to be clear about is the issue before the board," said attorney Robert Sandman, representing Voll, in what amounted to an opening statement. "The only thing this board can decide is whether Mike Voll can walk into a booth this November and vote. It is not 30 days prior to the election, Mike Voll is domiciled here in Cape May County, and this issue is not ripe," he said.

"There is clear and convincing evidence that Mike Voll lives in Middle and always has, for 30 days prior to the election and for 30 years prior to the election," said Sandman

Sandman offered to have Voll re-register, if that was the only issue.

April said that it would resolve the issue raised by his clients, and secretary Feeley followed up quickly accepting Sandman's offer.

Sandman appeared to retract the offer and asked the board to make a decision on the registration issue with the information before it. Election Board member Robert Conroy quietly spoke up, noting the offer of a fresh registration to resolve the question, and put the motion before the board.

It was quickly seconded by board member Peter Trofa and the board unanimously voted to accept the reregistration from Voll. Voll left the hearing room upon acceptance of the motion to complete the registration paperwork at the front window of the registrar's office.

He described his decision to re-register as a courtesy to the Board of Elections.

Voll spent 18 years on Township Committee, first as a Democrat and later as a Republican. He left office a decade ago.

sadly,.. all they could do is ask him to re-register and notify Florida of the same... :mad:
 

Steve

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Tiffany Trump, the president's younger daughter with his second wife, Marla Maples, is registered to vote in both Pennsylvania and New York.

Although it is not illegal to be registered to vote in multiple places – unlike voting twice in the same election, which is against the law – proponents of theories of voter fraud point to multiple registrations as proof that illegal voting takes place.

Tiffany Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in May. Public records reviewed by Heat Street confirmed that she voted in New York but not in Pennsylvania in November.



Trump's nominee to be the secretary of the Treasury, former Goldman Sachs partner Steven Mnuchin, is registered to vote in both New York and California, according to a review of documents by CNN.

Steve Bannon, a senior adviser to the president and the former executive director of Breitbart News, a media outlet the Southern Poverty Law Center has described as "embracing ideas on the extremist fringe of the conservative right," registered to vote in New York before the election last year at the same time as he was registered to vote in Florida. Bannon is still registered to vote in Florida.

I know most cases of multiple registration is due to a misconception that registering to vote in one state would remove you from another,.. but it is more common then most think,.. it took a significant effort to get my son who moved to Pa off our local voting rolls.

Millions of voters registered in multiple states - including ABC7 reporter

Voting twice is illegal. But earlier this month during the midterm election, 7 ON YOUR SIDE's Chris Papst learned how easy it is to do.

Like many Americans, every November, Papst votes. He takes it seriously. But last year, after moving to Virginia, he learned our voting system has some serious flaws.

On November 3, Papst voted where he currently lived in Arlington. Two hours later, he arrived at his old polling place in PA, where he hasn't lived in a year. He gave the election clerk his name, she pulled it up and he easily could have voted twice.

Linda Linberg is the Director of Elections in Arlington, who says voters being registered in multiple states is one of the biggest problems she sees. When Papst registered at her office, he signed a document stating he was previously registered in another state. That form was put in an envelope, licked, stamped and mailed to Pennsylvania.

"That's a big problem in the integrity of our voter rolls." Kris Kobach is the Kansas, Secretary of State. "There's a huge amount of inaccuracy."

Kobach operates the Interstate Cross Check - a collection of 28 states that share voter rolls. In 2014, the crosscheck found 7.3 million voters were registered in multiple states - 339,120 in Virginia - 44,000 just in both Maryland and Virginia (Virginia Voters Alliance, 2014). But since 22 states don't participate, including California, Texas and Florida, those numbers are likely much higher.

Twenty-six states, plus DC, have online voter registration. But there is no national database to check if people are registered in multiple states.
http://wjla.com/features/7-on-your-side/millions-of-voters-registered-in-multiple-states-including-abc7-reporter

Nearly 7 Million Americans Registered to Vote in More Than One State

Some 6.9 million Americans are registered to vote in two or more states, according to a report from an election-watch group.

“Our nation’s voter rolls are a mess,” says Catherine Engelbrecht, True The Vote president. “Sensible approaches to roll maintenance are fought tooth and nail by radical special interests who can use the duplicity in the system to their advantage.”

The latest interstate voter cross check tallied 6,951,484 overlapping voter registrations, and they’re just the tip of the iceberg.

The cross-check program involves only 28 states and does not include the three largest: California, Texas and Florida.

“Duplicate registration is an open invitation to voting fraud,” said Clara Belle Wheeler, a member of the Election Board in Albemarle County, Va. “This ability to vote more than once dilutes the legal votes and changes the results of elections.”


Double-voting – even triple-voting – found in US elections

Once was apparently not enough for Pasco Parker.

Prosecutors say the 63-year-old Tennessee man voted in the 2012 presidential election, not once ... not twice ... but three times, in three different states.

"It's too easy to vote twice, it comes down to your honor,"
 

Steve

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In Parker’s case, he was charged with voter fraud for votes in the Nov. 6, 2012, presidential election. He voted in person at his polling place in Spring Hill, Tenn. Authorities say that was after previously mailing in another vote by absentee ballot in Florida on Oct. 28, and yet another absentee ballot vote in North Carolina the following day. He pleaded guilty to felony voter registration and felony voting fraud in Rutherford County, N.C., last November, and was spared jail time under the law.

In Wisconsin, 52-year-old Robert Monroe also was sentenced to jail earlier this year after he was charged with 13 counts of election fraud, including multiple voting and voting twice in the 2012 presidential race. Prosecutors say Monroe voted by absentee ballot, where he lives in Shorewood, Wis., on Nov. 1, 2012. Then on election day five days later, authorities say he drove four hours south to Lebanon, Ind., to vote in person, using his Indiana drivers license to sign in.

Even a 2012 Democratic congressional candidate was caught and had to drop out of the race.

Party officials said candidate Wendy Rosen, who was running in Maryland's 1st Congressional District, had voted twice in Maryland and Florida in two separate elections. She pleaded guilty to voting illegally in two elections.

And in Cincinnati, veteran poll worker Melowese Richardson was accused of voting twice in the 2012 presidential election, after Hamilton County prosecutors charged her in 2013 with eight counts of illegal voting over several elections. She pleaded guilty to four counts, and prosecutors said she had even voted in the presidential election for her sister, who had been in a coma for almost a decade. Richardson was sentenced to five years in prison but was released early.

In Kansas, Lincoln Wilson also was charged with voting in both that state and in Colorado, where records show he is a registered Republican. He was accused of multiple counts stemming from the 2010, 2012, and 2014 elections.

And this past June, it turned out that the California presidential primary was not immune to the double-voting phenomenon. The East Bay Times reported that "in just three counties, Contra Costa, Alameda and Santa Clara, 194 people voted twice, suggesting the abuse statewide might run into the thousands."

Some suggest the number of potential double voters could be much higher than that.

A 2012 Pew Center on The States study said "approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state." Pew said 68,000 people were registered in three states

Elections officials insist that there are sufficient safeguards to prevent double-voting
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Silver said:
I wonder if Tiffany Trump voted twice?

The article stated "Tiffany Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in May. Public records reviewed by Heat Street confirmed that she voted in New York but not in Pennsylvania in November."
 

Silver

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Silver said:
I wonder if Tiffany Trump voted twice?

The article stated "Tiffany Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in May. Public records reviewed by Heat Street confirmed that she voted in New York but not in Pennsylvania in November."

Well thank God, I'll be able to sleep tonight,
 

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