I bred 20 cows in a WW chute tonight for a neighbor. It's an old one. Out of 20 the head catcher lost on when she came through with her foot out in front. Obviously she had been through there before. We had 3 choke down. One we had to let out , one we let back and one I bred while she was down and we let her gather her witts and get out. Those things are a man killer too. The palp cage is too close to the cow. You had to catch their heads to have enough room behind her and the tailgate isn't big enough and this one wouldnt' stay latched down. They'd get their head under it and come crawling in. It wasn't tall enough either so they could reach over and kiss the back of my neck. Not an enjoyable evening. All's well that ends well I guess. They were blacks with a nasty attitude.