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Hereford76 said:
Mike said:
Soldiers massacre wrong camp of Indians in Montana - Jan 23, 1870 - Declaring he did not care whether or not it was the rebellious band of Indians he had been searching for, Colonel Eugene Baker orders his men to attack a sleeping camp of peaceful Blackfeet along the Marias River in northern Montana.

The previous fall, Malcolm Clarke, an influential Montana rancher, had accused a Blackfeet warrior named Owl Child of stealing some of his horses; he punished the proud brave with a brutal whipping. In retribution, Owl Child and several allies murdered Clarke and his son at their home near Helena, and then fled north to join a band of rebellious Blackfeet under the leadership of Mountain Chief. Outraged and frightened, Montanans demanded that Owl Child and his followers be punished, and the government responded by ordering the forces garrisoned under Major Eugene Baker at Fort Ellis (near modern-day Bozeman, Montana) to strike back.

Strengthening his cavalry units with two infantry groups from Fort Shaw near Great Falls, Baker led his troops out into sub-zero winter weather and headed north in search of Mountain Chief's band. Soldiers later reported that Baker drank a great deal throughout the march. On January 22, Baker discovered an Indian village along the Marias River, and, postponing his attack until the following morning, spent the evening drinking heavily.

At daybreak on the morning of January 23, 1870, Baker ordered his men to surround the camp in preparation for attack. As the darkness faded, Baker's scout, Joe Kipp, recognized that the painted designs on the buffalo-skin lodges were those of a peaceful band of Blackfeet led by Heavy Runner. Mountain Chief and Owl Child, Kipp quickly realized, must have gotten wind of the approaching soldiers and moved their winter camp elsewhere. Kipp rushed to tell Baker that they had the wrong Indians, but Baker reportedly replied, "That makes no difference, one band or another of them; they are all Piegans [Blackfeet] and we will attack them." Baker then ordered a sergeant to shoot Kipp if he tried to warn the sleeping camp of Blackfeet and gave the command to attack.

Baker's soldiers began blindly firing into the village, catching the peaceful Indians utterly unaware and defenseless. By the time the brutal attack was over, Baker and his men had, by the best estimate, murdered 37 men, 90 women, and 50 children. Knocking down lodges with frightened survivors inside, the soldiers set them on fire, burnt some of the Blackfeet alive, and then burned the band's meager supplies of food for the winter. Baker initially captured about 140 women and children as prisoners to take back to Fort Ellis, but when he discovered many were ill with smallpox, he abandoned them to face the deadly winter without food or shelter.

When word of the Baker Massacre (now known as the Marias Massacre) reached the east, many Americans were outraged. One angry congressman denounced Baker, saying "civilization shudders at horrors like this." Baker's superiors, however, supported his actions, as did the people of Montana, with one journalist calling Baker's critics "namby-pamby, sniffling old maid sentimentalists." Neither Baker nor his men faced a court martial or any other disciplinary actions. However, the public outrage over the massacre did derail the growing movement to transfer control of Indian affairs from the Department of Interior to the War Department--President Ulysses S. Grant decreed that henceforth all Indian agents would be civilians rather than soldiers.

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don't much participate in the political deal... just fun or entertainment to see what OT types in here. anyhow - my cows graze the tp rings of baker massacre.


Yep- and my cows graze over the teepee rings of Sitting Bull's band and the route they took to Canada after the Custer Battle of June 1876... Lots of teepee rings on the hill overlooking the north place-as its only about a mile to fresh water and they liked to camp high where there was a breeze to escape the mosquitos...
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Yep- and my cows graze over the teepee rings of Sitting Bull's band and the route they took to Canada after the Custer Battle of June 1876... Lots of teepee rings on the hill overlooking the north place-as its only about a mile to fresh water and they liked to camp high where there was a breeze to escape the mosquitos...

:lol: And you know this how? The very teepee rings on the north place were left by Sitting Bull's band after the Custer Battle of 1876. :lol:

If it weren't for the hundreds of lies, half-truths, and boastful, self-important posts you've made over the years, I'd not ask.
 
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Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
Yep- and my cows graze over the teepee rings of Sitting Bull's band and the route they took to Canada after the Custer Battle of June 1876... Lots of teepee rings on the hill overlooking the north place-as its only about a mile to fresh water and they liked to camp high where there was a breeze to escape the mosquitos...

:lol: And you know this how? The very teepee rings on the north place were left by Sitting Bull's band after the Custer Battle of 1876. :lol:

If it weren't for the hundreds of lies, half-truths, and boastful, self-important posts you've made over the years, I'd not ask.

Not only was this one of the usual routes used for years by the Indians going to Wood Mountain to collect their ingredients for making Kinnikinnick, the old Indians say that "The Pass" was the route they took when they were fleeing General Miles...

Before the Battle of the Little Bighorn, Sitting Bull had a vision in which he saw the defeat of the 7th Cavalry under Lt. Col. George Armstrong Custer on June 25, 1876. Sitting Bull's leadership inspired his people to a major victory. Months after their victory at the battle, Sitting Bull and his group left the United States for Wood Mountain, North-West Territories (now Saskatchewan), where he remained until 1881, at which time he and most of his band returned to US territory and surrendered to U.S. forces. A small remnant of his band under Chief Waŋblí Ǧí decided to stay at Wood Mountain.

Sunday while I was riding a 10,000+ acre pasture looking for an awol bull- the grandson and I found several teepee rings and a couple of big buffalo wallows...
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
Yep- and my cows graze over the teepee rings of Sitting Bull's band and the route they took to Canada after the Custer Battle of June 1876... Lots of teepee rings on the hill overlooking the north place-as its only about a mile to fresh water and they liked to camp high where there was a breeze to escape the mosquitos...

:lol: And you know this how? The very teepee rings on the north place were left by Sitting Bull's band after the Custer Battle of 1876. :lol:

If it weren't for the hundreds of lies, half-truths, and boastful, self-important posts you've made over the years, I'd not ask.

Not only was this one of the usual routes used for years by the Indians going to Wood Mountain to collect their ingredients for making Kinnikinnick, the old Indians say that "The Pass" was the route they took when they were fleeing General Miles...

Before the Battle of the Little Bighorn, Sitting Bull had a vision in which he saw the defeat of the 7th Cavalry under Lt. Col. George Armstrong Custer on June 25, 1876. Sitting Bull's leadership inspired his people to a major victory. Months after their victory at the battle, Sitting Bull and his group left the United States for Wood Mountain, North-West Territories (now Saskatchewan), where he remained until 1881, at which time he and most of his band returned to US territory and surrendered to U.S. forces. A small remnant of his band under Chief Waŋblí Ǧí decided to stay at Wood Mountain.

Sunday while I was riding a 10,000+ acre pasture looking for an awol bull- the grandson and I found several teepee rings and a couple of big buffalo wallows...

Were those teepee rings inscribed with "Sitting Bull's Band" on them?

I found several arrowheads on land that was bought from Chief "Red Eagle" in the early 1800's, but I didn't claim they were his.

You don't know how to keep your mouth shut do you?
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
Yep- and my cows graze over the teepee rings of Sitting Bull's band and the route they took to Canada after the Custer Battle of June 1876... Lots of teepee rings on the hill overlooking the north place-as its only about a mile to fresh water and they liked to camp high where there was a breeze to escape the mosquitos...

:lol: And you know this how? The very teepee rings on the north place were left by Sitting Bull's band after the Custer Battle of 1876. :lol:

If it weren't for the hundreds of lies, half-truths, and boastful, self-important posts you've made over the years, I'd not ask.

Not only was this one of the usual routes used for years by the Indians going to Wood Mountain to collect their ingredients for making Kinnikinnick, the old Indians say that "The Pass" was the route they took when they were fleeing General Miles...

Before the Battle of the Little Bighorn, Sitting Bull had a vision in which he saw the defeat of the 7th Cavalry under Lt. Col. George Armstrong Custer on June 25, 1876. Sitting Bull's leadership inspired his people to a major victory. Months after their victory at the battle, Sitting Bull and his group left the United States for Wood Mountain, North-West Territories (now Saskatchewan), where he remained until 1881, at which time he and most of his band returned to US territory and surrendered to U.S. forces. A small remnant of his band under Chief Waŋblí Ǧí decided to stay at Wood Mountain.

Sunday while I was riding a 10,000+ acre pasture looking for an awol bull- the grandson and I found several teepee rings and a couple of big buffalo wallows...

You made the claim that the teepee rings on the north pasture were from Sitting Bull's band as they made their escape to Canada after the battle. I simply asked how you knew this to be fact and it's obvious you don't. So, as usual, you're full of crap.
 

Whitewing

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Mike said:
Were those teepee rings inscribed with "Sitting Bull's Band" on them?

I found several arrowheads on land that was bought from Chief "Red Eagle" in the early 1800's, but I didn't claim they were his.

You don't know how to keep your mouth shut do you?

Remember the phony Bill Clinton walking the beach at Normandy and just happening to find some stones he then made into a cross?

I picture the fatman on the hill on the north place keeling down and arranging stones that read, Sitting Bull was here. And there you have it, proof!

He then calls for the grandkid and the horses to help lift him into a standing position.
 

Mike

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Whitewing said:
Mike said:
Were those teepee rings inscribed with "Sitting Bull's Band" on them?

I found several arrowheads on land that was bought from Chief "Red Eagle" in the early 1800's, but I didn't claim they were his.

You don't know how to keep your mouth shut do you?

Remember the phony Bill Clinton walking the beach at Normandy and just happening to find some stones he then made into a cross?

I picture the fatman on the hill on the north place keeling down and arranging stones that read, Sitting Bull was here. And there you have it, proof!

He then calls for the grandkid and the horses to help lift him into a standing position.

I guess liars are just that, LIARS. :roll:
 

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