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WARNING: SWAMPER ALERT...Look at your own risk

RobertMac

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Baby Swamper

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Mama Swamper

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Grandma Swamper

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Great Grandma Swamper...a young 18 yrs.

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Great Grandma Swamper's new boy

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Baby Swamper's sire

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Mama Swamper's sire

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Grandma Swamper's sire
 

Soapweed

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It looks like swampers are hardy cattle. They are sleek, shiny, and fat. For a cow to look that good at eighteen years of age, you are sure doing something right. They appear to have a lot of uniformity going for them, so the taste of the beef you produce should be consistent.

All that green grass looks absolutely wonderful. Thanks for posting pictures from your part of the world.
 

Soapweed

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Soapweed you disapointed me. :cry:

i was sure you would have mentioned about them living up to their EPD's. :wink:

Those great big ears look like they are just begging for more tags. :wink: Kind of like nice clean restroom walls without any graffiti. :)
 

Turkey Track Bar

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I'd say the swamp's been good to Great Granny Swamper!

Nice pics of nice cattle Robert Mac....thanks for sharing a glimpse of your end of the country!

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 

Jinglebob

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Look good. I like to see some different kind of cattle than I see around these parts.

Ain't nuthin' wrong with some ear, as long as they ain't so far north that they freeze off. :wink:

We had some 1/2 blood beefmasters years ago that we bought and raised on a bucket. Kept two for cows. One didn't have much ear and the other did. They culled themselves out in a few years when they come up dry. I think they just raised too good of a calf and couldn't stay in good enough shape to breed back. I wouldn't cuss the breed, them two just didn't work in our program of the time.
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Jinglebob said:
Look good. I like to see some different kind of cattle than I see around these parts.

Ain't nuthin' wrong with some ear, as long as they ain't so far north that they freeze off. :wink:

We had some 1/2 blood beefmasters years ago that we bought and raised on a bucket. Kept two for cows. One didn't have much ear and the other did. They culled themselves out in a few years when they come up dry. I think they just raised too good of a calf and couldn't stay in good enough shape to breed back. I wouldn't cuss the breed, them two just didn't work in our program of the time.

Your right JB, I've used Santa Gertudis, Brangus and Watusi.
Ended up with a couple of cows off of each before i went staight Angus. They all had their good points but may have been more adapted to other areas. Strangely the Watusi bull I used might of had a bit of longhorn but he threw calves muscled like a Limo. Never touch one at calving. They came solid colored so sold better then LH colored calves.
 

RobertMac

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the_jersey_lilly_2000 said:
good lookin cattle RobertMac. I like em.

Why do ya call em "Swampers"?........that's an oilfield term to me......the "swamper" is the fella that hasta go down in the mudpit.

Some Northern friends on here refer to Southeastern cattle as "swampers" and believe they are the source of all problems in the beef industry. :wink: I will admit there are a lot of sorry cattle here coming from people that 'have a few cows' and breed them with a salebarn special that's the right color!

BMR said:
Well for not useing EPD that sure have lived up to their EAR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT :lol:

At one time, all cattle had big ears...when they went North, y'all froze them all off! :lol:
 

RobertMac

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Jinglebob, that's one of the problem I see with using genetics that didn't originate under similar climate conditions. The humid eastern climate can generally support more milk than the arid western climate. Bringing in the western climate Lasater genetics has helped me moderate milk production and is giving me better udder structure in my heifers. My calves may wean lighter, but I don't weigh them anymore...my economic value is in % carcass yield and carcass weight AT low input cost.

Econ, disposition is the first of Tom Lasater's Six Essential selection criteria. The industry will never eliminate 'bad eating experiences' until producers work on eliminating bad dispositions and we grind high headed cattle. My disposition problems leave at weaning. I don't try to make pets out of my cattle, but they are almost too gentle.

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Cows coming onto fresh grass

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Cows grazing with 'Evil Empire' in background
 

katrina

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Really nice Robert Mac......
I have always respecated your operation.... I do have a question and I know it's a blonde question.......... But why do they have so much skin on there bellys and in through there neck? I know the ear thingy, but not sure on the skin thingy...............
 

Jason

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katrina said:
Really nice Robert Mac......
I have always respecated your operation.... I do have a question and I know it's a blonde question.......... But why do they have so much skin on there bellys and in through there neck? I know the ear thingy, but not sure on the skin thingy...............

That makes em worth more Katrina, they will produce extra pairs of boots out of each hide. The extra leather is a real money maker :wink:
 

Econ101

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katrina said:
Really nice Robert Mac......
I have always respecated your operation.... I do have a question and I know it's a blonde question.......... But why do they have so much skin on there bellys and in through there neck? I know the ear thingy, but not sure on the skin thingy...............

Heat dissipation in hot climates----and boots. :lol: :lol:
 

RobertMac

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Econ101 said:
katrina said:
Really nice Robert Mac......
I have always respecated your operation.... I do have a question and I know it's a blonde question.......... But why do they have so much skin on there bellys and in through there neck? I know the ear thingy, but not sure on the skin thingy...............

Heat dissipation in hot climates----and boots. :lol: :lol:

Katrina, Econ and Jason have it right...best boot leather there is! :wink: :D

Beefmasters were derived from a cross of F1 Brahman X Hereford and F1 Brahman X Shorthorn in the 1930s. The "skin thingy" comes from the Brahman influence. Dr. Bonsma called the hide the most important organ as it protected the cattle from the environment. Brahmans have thick hides that help guard against insects(and the diseases they transmit) and highly vascular(lots of blood flow) that helps with cooling and maintaining constant body temperature. The extra skin is for better cooling...the down side from a marbling stand point, there is more room to put outside body fat. You know a Brahman cross is fat when they have a watermelon under their neck.

I would have never guessed you were blonde!! 8) :wink:
 

katrina

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That clears the saga of the skin thingy..... All though it is quite interesting.
Here we want less skin, goes to show what works for some wouldn't for others.... Ain't America great!!!
 
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