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Warship in Cuba, now troops and aircraft in the Ukraine

Steve

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Warships in Cuba Yesterday, now troops and aircraft in the Ukraine today

Tensions in the Crimea crescendo as armed men take control of two airports on the peninsula and Russian helicopters are reported to have entered Ukrainian airspace.

Armed men seize two airports in Crimea
Russian helicopters fly into Ukrainian airspace, border guards say
Ukraine interior ministry accuses Russian troops of "armed invasion"
Ukraine says declaration of "state of emergency" is one option to resolve crisis
Russia's Black Sea fleet denies involvement
Ukraine's parliament calls for Moscow to stop undermining territorial integrity

I consider what has happened to be an armed invasion.
Arsen Avakov, Ukraine interior minister


Ukraine's border guard serivce reported later on Friday that ten Russian helicopters had entered Ukrainian airsapce.

"It is a direct provocation... in the territory of a sovereign state."

Ukraine's parliament urged Moscow to "stop moves that show signs of undermining national sovereignty and territorial integrity ... (and) reject support for separatism in Ukraine, of any form".

Mr Avakov said troops that had arrived at the airports over night did not "hide their affiliation" to the Russian Federation. Mr Avakov added that around 119 soldiers had arrived in several trucks in the early hours of the morning to the Simferopol airport.

Ukrainian Interior Ministry officers remain inside the Simferopol airport, he said, and the military and border guards are inside the Belbek military airport.

On Thursday, Ukraine warned Russia that any troop movements outside its Sevastapol base would be seen as an act of aggression. Russia has said it will protect the rights of its "compatriots" in the region, and act "strongly and uncompromisingly" if they are violated.

This followed a group of armed men taking control of the regional government headquarters in Simferopol and raising the Russian flag.

It looks like with a weak US president, the Russians decided to grab a bit more territory..

what will Obama and Kerry do now that Russia has stomped all over their red line? send Susan Rice to the Sunday shows again?

Secretary of State John Kerry today warned Russia that sending troops to Ukraine would be a "grave mistake."

Earlier, the White House called on Moscow to “avoid provocative actions”

I would say troops taking over the airport, and helicopters flying in Ukraine airspace is well ,... troops in the Ukraine..

I would say storming and removing the government and raising the Russian flag is well.. provocative..

throw in taking over two airports and you might say Putin just stomped on Kerry and Hagels warnings..




Obama's Syria 'red line' has echoes in his warning to Ukraine

- U.S. President Barack Obama's stern warning this week to Ukrainian officials was the closest thing to a "red line" moment he has had since his threat in 2012 to act against the Syrian government if it used chemical weapons.

But Obama's admonition on Wednesday to not "step over the line"

His decision to lay down another rhetorical "line" in a geopolitical crisis left many foreign policy experts puzzled, especially given the limited options he has at his disposal for dealing with the Ukraine's spiraling conflict.

"Hasn't he learned his redline lesson?"

so now that the former president is gone.. and Russia is moving in,.. will Obama issue a new line like he did in Syria..



Appearing on U.S. television Sunday, President Barack Obama’s National Security Advisor, Susan Rice, was asked about the possibility of Russian intervention in Ukraine following days of bloodshed and a change of leadership in the country.

“That [Russian intervention] would be a grave mistake

oh boy,.. I hope we don't have another idiot with a you-tube video coming out..
 

hypocritexposer

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Mike said:
"Leading From Behind" on foreign policy is about to rear it's ugly head.

It's not only "leading from behind", but obama issued a challenge...

..ever told your kids NOT to do something, only to have them do that exact thing?

they're most likely testing you, to see what they can get away with.
 

Faster horses

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hypocritexposer said:
Mike said:
"Leading From Behind" on foreign policy is about to rear it's ugly head.

It's not only "leading from behind", but obama issued a challenge...

..ever told your kids NOT to do something, only to have them do that exact thing?

they're most likely testing you, to see what they can get away with.

Obama is foolish. What else can we expect from someone who has no more experience than a community organizer. Obviously, he doesn't learn from his mistakes. He's made a ton of them and it's not getting any better. I guess it fits his agenda, or Soros' agenda........whatever.
 

Mike

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Faster horses said:
hypocritexposer said:
Mike said:
"Leading From Behind" on foreign policy is about to rear it's ugly head.

It's not only "leading from behind", but obama issued a challenge...

..ever told your kids NOT to do something, only to have them do that exact thing?

they're most likely testing you, to see what they can get away with.

Obama is foolish. What else can we expect from someone who has no more experience than a community organizer. Obviously, he doesn't learn from his mistakes. He's made a ton of them and it's not getting any better. I guess it fits his agenda, or Soros' agenda........whatever.

A FAILED community organizer I might add. Ever see pictures of the community he organized?

Well, here's a mental picture: they shot and killed over 500 people in that War Zone last year.
 

Steve

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"Leading From Behind" on foreign policy

is that what this is called?

7 hours ago..
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-biden-take-a-quick-jog-through-the-white-house/
Biden steps into the oval office and asks, "Mr. President, are you ready to move?"

"Absolutely. Lets do this thing," the president replies.

The two take off at a brisk pace, and when their run ends, they stretch their legs and step back into the president's office.

"Man, you're hard to keep up with," Biden remarks.

"You did good out there, but after a good workout, you gotta drink up," the president replied, promoting another of the first lady's healthy living tips. "Otherwise we're gonna be in trouble with Jill [Biden] and Michelle."

"Just let Michelle know I did drink this, alright?" Biden asks.

I would call it making a behind out of himself..

or was this what you meant?

1 hour ago
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/28/obama-declares-happy-hour-democrats-after-dire-war/
Obama declares ‘happy hour’ with Dems minutes after Ukraine tough talk

Minutes after issuing a stern warning to Russia and saying there will be a price to pay if it interferes militarily in Ukraine, President Obama headed to a “happy hour” with fellow Democrats.

Speaking at a fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee, Mr. Obama struck a very different tone than he had less than 30 minutes earlier, when he appeared with little warning in the White House press briefing room and issued a vague threat to Moscow.

“Well, it’s Friday. It’s after 5 o’clock. So, this is now officially happy hour with the Democratic party,” the president told his cohorts. “I can do that. It is an executive action. I have the authority.”
correct me if I am wrong.. but that doesn't look like leading from behind,..

looks more like just a behind..
 

Mike

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Traveler said:
The metrosexuals in high places obviously are not respected by our enemies. What a surprise.

They could be worried about an "All Woman" army coming over to the battlefield?
 

Steve

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Mike said:
This is satire? Right? :???:

No sadly that is how Obama handled a foreign crises..


what do you think of Putin response would be...

Russian upper house approves use of military force in Ukraine.

Russia's upper house of parliament voted unanimously Saturday to approve sending Russian military forces into Ukraine, amid mounting tensions in the country's Crimea region.

The vote followed a request from Russian President Vladimir Putin for approval to send Russian troops into Crimea.

Due to the "extraordinary situation in Ukraine," Putin said, there are threats to the lives of Russian citizens and Russian military personnel based in the southern Crimean region.

I guess he thought Obama and Biden's silly run around and party attitude was a bit to much..

but Putin didn't end with words..
Russian troops 'attempt coast guard takeover'

Ukraine's government suspects Moscow of fomenting separatist tensions in the autonomous region -- and it has accused Russia of having already sent troops into its territory.

Amid the uncertainty, about 300 gunmen wearing Russian Special Forces uniforms attempted to take over the Sevastopol unit of the Ukrainian Coast Guard, a senior official with the Ukrainian Border Service said Saturday.

The gunmen were positioned outside the Ukrainian Coast Guard building, with local residents standing between the two sides, said Col. Sergii Astakhov, assistant to the chief of the Ukrainian Border Service.

The residents are reportedly trying to negotiate and asking the gunmen not to attack, Astakhov said.

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian Coast Guard has moved its ships away from the immediate coastline, and they are being approached by three motorboats and one cruiser from the Russian Black Sea Fleet, Astakhov said.


so while Obama and Biden make comical moves.. Putin plays for keeps..


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Tam

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Steve said:
Mike said:
This is satire? Right? :???:

No sadly that is how Obama handled a foreign crises..

Do you expect anything else from a guy who's reaction to a Terrorist Attack resulting in the death of an Ambassador and three other Americans is to hop on Air Force One and fly to Vegas to a Democrat fund raiser? :roll:

The guy could care less about the safety of the US or anyone else if it interrupts his golf tee time or the Dems happy hour. :mad:
 

Steve

Well-known member
Tam said:
Steve said:
Mike said:
This is satire? Right? :???:

No sadly that is how Obama handled a foreign crises..

Do you expect anything else from a guy who's reaction to a Terrorist Attack resulting in the death of an Ambassador and three other Americans is to hop on Air Force One and fly to Vegas to a Democrat fund raiser? :roll:

The guy could care less about the safety of the US or anyone else if it interrupts his golf tee time or the Dems happy hour. :mad:

Tam you keep doing this.. he didn't just go hop on Air Force one and go to a fundraiser..

nope, just didn't happen that way,.... the jackass got a good night sleep first... :?
 
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Andy Borowitz

Right wingers are accusing Obama of letting Putin invade Ukraine the way Hitler invaded Poland -- weird, because for the past five years they've been claiming Obama WAS Hitler. Make up your minds!

Conspicuously absent from criticism of Obama's stance on Ukraine are suggestions of what he should actually do.
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Oldtimer said:
Andy Borowitz

Right wingers are accusing Obama of letting Putin invade Ukraine the way Hitler invaded Poland -- weird, because for the past five years they've been claiming Obama WAS Hitler. Make up your minds!

Conspicuously absent from criticism of Obama's stance on Ukraine are suggestions of what he should actually do.

Yeah, because someone robbing a store or the clerk letting the robber know that they won't be watching if they take money out of the register is completely different things. :roll:

As much as it pains me to watch you miss the boat time and time again, I do pray that you and many others see the light eventually.
 
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