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Was ‘Gunwalker’ a PR Op for Gun Control?

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Buckle up: An agent testifies that surveillance stopped at the border, meaning the operation didn't actually trace guns to cartels to make arrests. The only conclusion? Law enforcement wasn't the point, orchestrated violence was, and that's a history-making scandal.

The most damning revelations coming out of the hearings on Operation Fast and Furious held by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform are the unmistakable indications that the program was never designed to succeed as a law enforcement operation at all.


The Definitive Scandal: 'Gunwalker' Much Worse Than 'Iran-Contra'

Pay attention to this era-defining event: The 2,000+ weapons are implicated in an estimated 150 shootings of Mexican officers and soldiers, two American officers, and an unknown number of civilians.

The report's findings:

"DOJ and ATF inappropriately and recklessly relied on a 20-year-old ATF Order to allow guns to walk." The agencies misrepresented the intention of the order to justify their actions.

"Supervisors told the agents to 'get with the program' because senior ATF officials had sanctioned the operation." At least one agent was cautioned that if he didn't stop complaining about the dangerous nature of the operation, he would find himself out of a job, and lucky to be working in a prison.

"Operation Fast and Furious contributed to the increasing violence and deaths in Mexico. This result was regarded with giddy optimism by ATF supervisors hoping that guns recovered at crime scenes in Mexico would provide the nexus to straw purchasers in Phoenix." ATF officials were seemingly unconcerned over the deaths of Mexican law enforcement officers, soldiers, and innocent civilians, noting that you had to "scramble a few eggs" to make an omelette, in a callous disregard of human life.

Senior ATF personnel including Acting Director Ken Melson, and senior Department of Justice officials at least up to an assistant attorney general, were well aware of and supported the operation.

Department of Justice officials hid behind semantics to lie and deny that they allowed guns to be walked across the border.

When asked by the Oversight Committee how many of 1,750 specific weapons that "walked" under orders of the ATF and DOJ could have been interdicted if agents were allowed to act as they were trained, the agents answered they could have stopped every single one.

Late Monday, the Department of Justice announced that it will begin requiring gun dealers in four Southwest Border states to report multiple sales of semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines.

Continue reading on Examiner.com BREAKING: DoJ announces gun reporting requirements; Issa, Grassley respond - Seattle gun rights | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-seattle/breaking-doj-announces-gun-reporting-requirements-issa-grassley-respond#ixzz1RqT7d1tX
if your looking for another smoking gun...


The President has directed us to take action...

Turns out, we just had to go back and watch some C-SPAN reruns, and there it was, straight from the Assistant US Attorney's mouth. Obama Ordered ATF's Gunwalker. Wow. I mean, so we're clear, the U.S. AG's office was bragging about Gunwalker as a part of Obama's "get tough on the border" policy. Or to put it in terms that a Democrat can understand, "he was for it, before he was against it." Um-hmmm. And he approved it before he tried to distance himself from it. While we're at it, we may have cleared up the mystery of what those two agents were doing in-country when they were ambushed by the cartel thugs. Listen carefully, and you'll see Obama stepped up the presence of American law enforcement inside Mexico.

Ronald Welch, assistant attorney general for legislative affairs, responded that the Justice Department was still discussing how to provide any "sensitive law enforcement information" regarding the FBI and DEA to congressional investigators.

Without acknowledging that cartel leaders were paid informants, he said their main focus is "how best to protect ongoing investigations."

Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/07/09/2440172/atf-mexican-cartels-paid-to-inform.html#ixzz1RqmAnNYc

On Wednesday, Mexican federal police released a videotaped interrogation with recently captured Jesus Rejon Aguilar, an alleged founder of the Zetas gang who is wanted in the slaying of a U.S. immigration agent in Mexico. He told them that "all the weapons are bought in the United States" and that "even the American government itself was selling the weapons."

as the disturbing news goes now.. one agency paid the leaders to be informants.. another gave them money to buy weapons, while another agency sold them weapons. so instead of cleaning up the mess.,.. they made it worse.. and it appears that was their intent.. just so they could make more laws against gun ownership... and nullify the 2nd amendment of the US Constitution.

so if the President's intent on an operation is to make it worse so he can subvert the constitution... isn't that treason?
a little history..

ATF began Project Gunrunner as a pilot project in Laredo, Texas, in 2005 and expanded it as a national initiative in 2006. Project Gunrunner is also part of the Department's broader Southwest Border Initiative, which seeks to reduce cross-border drug and firearms trafficking and the high level of violence associated with these activities on both sides of the border.

ATF Project Gunrunner has a stated official objective to stop the sale and export of guns from the United States into Mexico in order to deny Mexican drug cartels the firearms

Project Gunrunner is an operation of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) intended to stem the flow of firearms into Mexico By early 2009, Project Gunrunner had resulted in approximately 650 cases by ATF, in which more than 1,400 defendants were referred for prosecution in federal and state courts and more than 12,000 firearms were involved.

so far.. it looks as it was working as it was intended... so what happened?

since September 2009 under Project Gunrunner, operation "Fast and Furious", did the opposite by ATF permitting, encouraging and facilitating 'straw purchase' firearm sales to traffickers, and allowing the guns to 'walk' and be transported to Mexico. This has resulted in the death of US border agent Brian Terry

well what the hell happened between Jan of 09 and Sept of 09?


there are accusations that the ATF was attempting to boost statistics to 'prove' that American guns are arming the Mexican drug cartels and to further budget and political objectives.

what kind of sleaze ball would authorize that?

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