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Anonymous

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I still question in the stalking issues if the law has not been broke BY THE ONES MAKING THE ALLEGATIONS?
I have several family members in law enforcment. It is a against the law to use goverment data bases seeking info about people without it being in the line of duty. Example ARE a traffic stop, or if a legitimate stalking claim was filed. Then the ones searching these data bases must be the ones doing the investigation.

If anyone who has been accused of stalking or feals your personal info has been sought illegaly pleases send me a private message. I will talk today to one family member in the Working for the feds and get you some contact info in Montana!

Again use of goverment data bases for personal use is not taken lightly. Since 9/11 they take these illegal actions even more seriously.
 

hopalong

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I just love it when a plan comes together!! :D :D
Let the stalking begin,and the threats via pms The very things oldtimer has accused others of he is now doing!
The very things that he condemed to macon he is now doing, giving out information so that people can piece together personal information.
A phone call at 3:27 am (blocked number)
Lets just say I just proved how much of a hypocrite oldtimer really is!

EH???
 

Liveoak

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Man-o-man, I must be really missing something here. All this talk about "stalking". So people on these boards really post their real name and phone numbers? If so, aren't they just opening there door to some bozo that wants to disrupt their life? If their not giving out their personnel information, then just how does is this "stalking" occuring? Someone sending unwanted PM's? Just delete them! What's the deal?

If there are folks out there that really believe they can walk around in the public eye, demonstrating free speech, and do so without any kind of reaction, isn't living in reality. The same goes for those that throw their personnel information out into the public domain. Some blow hole is going to abuse it. So, don't throw it out their unless your willing to deal with the jerks!
 

Steve

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Live Oak I understand your comments but... I refuse to let the world make me live in fear in my own home..

a long time back the board was just friends and neighbors.. a person posting knew who everyone was.. even the ip address were next to the posters name..

it was still heated and words still flew around.. but everyone seemed to try to be neighborly..

while I think OT resorted or stooped to exactly what he accused others of doing... I feel those who post on ranchers should still act like everyone knows who they are and try to be decent and honest.

I don't have a problem with Hopalong .. but the "evidence" and facts support that he has used other names.. and has resorted or stooped to use OT's name and info in posts.

so both are guilty.. two wrongs still only makes two wrongs.. maybe both should try to act like adults and post comment they are proud of.. and not have to hide behind a fake name out of fear..

BTW,.. I refuse to live in fear.

PM me and I will gladly give you my phone number to call me up..

or feel free to look it up.. it is listed... Wildwood New Jersey..

Steven Woodward
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Anonymous

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hopalong said:
I just love it when a plan comes together!! :D :D
Let the stalking begin,and the threats via pms The very things oldtimer has accused others of he is now doing!
The very things that he condemed to macon he is now doing, giving out information so that people can piece together personal information.
A phone call at 3:27 am (blocked number)
Lets just say I just proved how much of a hypocrite oldtimer really is!

EH???

So now you are going to blame me- for your posting your own name (Ed) and ranch name (E Bar S) in the Ranch Talk- and then making the mistake of forgetting to change usernames back when you answer as Hopalong for Ed :???: :roll: :roll:

Yep- all my fault again.... :roll: :roll:

All I did in the PM was let you know what several people were able to figure out- and that if they could- the whole world could...
You have my permission to post the PM in its entirety if you want to...

From there on I really have nothing to communicate with you about...
 
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Anonymous

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Steve said:
Live Oak I understand your comments but... I refuse to let the world make me live in fear in my own home..

a long time back the board was just friends and neighbors.. a person posting knew who everyone was.. even the ip address were next to the posters name..

it was still heated and words still flew around.. but everyone seemed to try to be neighborly..

while I think OT resorted or stooped to exactly what he accused others of doing... I feel those who post on ranchers should still act like everyone knows who they are and try to be decent and honest.

I don't have a problem with Hopalong .. but the "evidence" and facts support that he has used other names.. and has resorted or stooped to use OT's name and info in posts.

so both are guilty.. two wrongs still only makes two wrongs.. maybe both should try to act like adults and post comment they are proud of.. and not have to hide behind a fake name out of fear..

BTW,.. I refuse to live in fear.

PM me and I will gladly give you my phone number to call me up..

or feel free to look it up.. it is listed... Wildwood New Jersey..

Steven Woodward
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A good post Steve and thank you for your service to this Great Country.

Many posters have been run off by ot and others. Look at ot's post where he said he had contributed in running people off. Once that person is gone the user name is gone also. So if hopy is guilty of two or three names why was it necessary. Only because one's like ot did not like his postings and choose on their own to rid the board of them at any cost.

This board and all others involve freedom of speech. This freedom is allowed in the confines of Macons agreement for the ranchers forum and posters that post here. Macon does not list ones that have rights to run off people that they dont agree with. Or no where is it posted to make the boards more lively feal free to play devils advocate.

Ot gave up his right to privacy when he posted his own info. Things hopy looked up on USDA web pages are public knowledge. I would dare say they were brought forward to show ot he was speaking out of both sides of his mouth from time to time. This again has beeen shown by ot's words he choose to play devils advocate and was guilty of running people off.

I have questioned ot and he refuses to answer about the following. ot have you ever accessed goverment data bases or had others to access goverment data bases seeking personal info about people who frequent discussion boards that you do?

Silence is golden because if he says no he is bound by his words! There are people looking into these possible acts of seeking illegal info on goverment data bases. If it has been done there are ids and times that cannot be removed along with reason codes of seeking the info.

If in fact it has been done? It is both a criminal/civil violation of law. Prosecution and civil damages can be and should be sought in the event this has taken place.
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer said:
hopalong said:
I just love it when a plan comes together!! :D :D
Let the stalking begin,and the threats via pms The very things oldtimer has accused others of he is now doing!
The very things that he condemed to macon he is now doing, giving out information so that people can piece together personal information.
A phone call at 3:27 am (blocked number)
Lets just say I just proved how much of a hypocrite oldtimer really is!

EH???

So now you are going to blame me- for your posting your own name (Ed) and ranch name (E Bar S) in the Ranch Talk- and then making the mistake of forgetting to change usernames back when you answer as Hopalong for Ed :???: :roll: :roll:

Yep- all my fault again.... :roll: :roll:

All I did in the PM was let you know what several people were able to figure out- and that if they could- the whole world could...
You have my permission to post the PM in its entirety if you want to...

From there on I really have nothing to communicate with you about...

No oldtimer I am not blaming you for posting my name! I am merely pointing out that you are HYPOCRITE by doing the very thing you accused others of doing in your stalking post!!!!!!
The very thing Macon said was not to be tolerated! Especially since you are a moderator!!!
 

Bullhauler

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hopalong said:
I just love it when a plan comes together!! :D :D
Let the stalking begin,and the threats via pms The very things oldtimer has accused others of he is now doing!
The very things that he condemed to macon he is now doing, giving out information so that people can piece together personal information.
A phone call at 3:27 am (blocked number)
Lets just say I just proved how much of a hypocrite oldtimer really is!

EH???


So which time were you lying ED? The time you said you didn't live in Arizona or belong to the British White Assn or now when you said someone called you at 3:27 am??? I honestly think you are a pathological liar that doesn't have any idea what the truth is anymore.

BTW ED in this post stands for your Erectile Dysfunction. :D :D
 

Liveoak

Well-known member
Steve said:
Live Oak I understand your comments but... I refuse to let the world make me live in fear in my own home..

a long time back the board was just friends and neighbors.. a person posting knew who everyone was.. even the ip address were next to the posters name..

it was still heated and words still flew around.. but everyone seemed to try to be neighborly..

while I think OT resorted or stooped to exactly what he accused others of doing... I feel those who post on ranchers should still act like everyone knows who they are and try to be decent and honest.

I don't have a problem with Hopalong .. but the "evidence" and facts support that he has used other names.. and has resorted or stooped to use OT's name and info in posts.

so both are guilty.. two wrongs still only makes two wrongs.. maybe both should try to act like adults and post comment they are proud of.. and not have to hide behind a fake name out of fear..

BTW,.. I refuse to live in fear.

PM me and I will gladly give you my phone number to call me up..

or feel free to look it up.. it is listed... Wildwood New Jersey..

Steven Woodward
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I understand what your saying Steve. Your willing to deal with any of those wayward individuals that choose to abuse a phone number or having someones real name. Apparently, from what I have read on this board, others have taken that chance and got hit by a "stalker" which drove them off the boards. That kind of thing shouldn't have to happen.

BTW, I might take you up on that offer! I picked up a DPMS LR, in 308, a while back. Fitted it with a Leopold Mark 4 (4.5x14x50mm LR/T). Now I have to figure out how to master the scope for LR target shooting. That drop/elevation/windage thing
 
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hopalong said:
Whatever you wish to believe bullcrapper,sorry I missed your call, :D :D :D

He must have sleep apnia hopy to call you at that time of night. :lol:
 

hopalong

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Pig Farmer said:
hopalong said:
Whatever you wish to believe bullcrapper,sorry I missed your call, :D :D :D

He must have sleep apnia hopy to call you at that time of night. :lol:

Do not know it was him, the number was blocked, as it was this morning as well.
Too early for telemarketers. :D :D :D
 
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Anonymous

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hopalong said:
Pig Farmer said:
hopalong said:
Whatever you wish to believe bullcrapper,sorry I missed your call, :D :D :D

He must have sleep apnia hopy to call you at that time of night. :lol:

Do not know it was him, the number was blocked, as it was this morning as well.
Too early for telemarketers. :D :D :D

It could be ot letting you know he was up and thinking about any wrongs he had done to you.

Laying it all aside hopy call your phone company if it happens again. You might have a stalker trying to interupt your sleep. Kind of turn the tables on someone.

Whatever you do dont pm ot and share info or ask for advice. :lol:
 

MsSage

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Well hail hoppy I am suppose to be your cheerleader and I DONT have your number..........what the hay?? LOL :wink:

Why is it ot only posts now to stir up trouble?????
I want to see what the action for posting your number is going to be?
 

hopalong

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MsSage said:
Well hail hoppy I am suppose to be your cheerleader and I DONT have your number..........what the hay?? LOL :wink:

Why is it ot only posts now to stir up trouble?????
I want to see what the action for posting your number is going to be?

Msage, I would gladly let you have my phone number :D BUT youwould have to let me have yours as well so I could call you and harrass you :D :D :D That way you could tell oldtimer so he could tell the world :roll: :roll: And stir the crap pot again :wink: :wink: :wink:

He didn't actually post my number but gave out enough informatioin that people could get it as well as my e mail address home address etc! This was after Macon said KNOCK it of,knowing that there would be others who would abuse this information.
Oh well
 

Steve

Well-known member
Liveoak said:
Steve said:
Live Oak I understand your comments but... I refuse to let the world make me live in fear in my own home..

a long time back the board was just friends and neighbors.. a person posting knew who everyone was.. even the ip address were next to the posters name..

it was still heated and words still flew around.. but everyone seemed to try to be neighborly..

while I think OT resorted or stooped to exactly what he accused others of doing... I feel those who post on ranchers should still act like everyone knows who they are and try to be decent and honest.

I don't have a problem with Hopalong .. but the "evidence" and facts support that he has used other names.. and has resorted or stooped to use OT's name and info in posts.

so both are guilty.. two wrongs still only makes two wrongs.. maybe both should try to act like adults and post comment they are proud of.. and not have to hide behind a fake name out of fear..

BTW,.. I refuse to live in fear.

PM me and I will gladly give you my phone number to call me up..

or feel free to look it up.. it is listed... Wildwood New Jersey..

Steven Woodward
375px-MarksmanMedals-2.jpg

I understand what your saying Steve. Your willing to deal with any of those wayward individuals that choose to abuse a phone number or having someones real name. Apparently, from what I have read on this board, others have taken that chance and got hit by a "stalker" which drove them off the boards. That kind of thing shouldn't have to happen.

BTW, I might take you up on that offer! I picked up a DPMS LR, in 308, a while back. Fitted it with a Leopold Mark 4 (4.5x14x50mm LR/T). Now I have to figure out how to master the scope for LR target shooting. That drop/elevation/windage thing

nice rifle.. with the current oppressive laws here, the only way I could shoot one is at a range out of state.. I have never liked a scope and always had difficulty with one, a marine friend spent alot of time getting me straight on windage and the day I qualified it was dead still for about two hours, so it made a huge difference.. add in elevation is easier to learn on a still days.. and each rifle and ammo configuration can make a huge difference at long distances.. but what works well for targets isn't always practical in hunting.. I've seen a few guys spend alot of money to shot at a piece of cardboard, who can' seem to get a deer...

as for the stalker.. and driving others away.. I would more then likely take it defensively and make them look like a heal and an idiot... all the while striving to remain a gentleman.. :roll: :roll: :wink: , but sadly the ladies felt it was not worth fighting against.. and left instead..
 

MsSage

Well-known member
Am I suppose to be scared now?????? :roll: :roll:
Hail my info has been out there for a long time anyone at anytime could find it.
hmmmmm have to wonder who has a NEW name.......with only 2 posts and both were about my addy LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
 

Yanuck

Well-known member
MsSage said:
Am I suppose to be scared now?????? :roll: :roll:
Hail my info has been out there for a long time anyone at anytime could find it.
hmmmmm have to wonder who has a NEW name.......with only 2 posts and both were about my addy LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

who??? come on tell me!!! maybe we should have a 12 step program for multiple id's.... :?
 

MsSage

Well-known member
Usually it takes years before individuals can accept that they have Schizophrenia and need medication. So a 12 step program wouldnt work real fast LOL
 

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