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Was Obama lying to push his agenda????

Tam

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President Obama’s “Senior” Moment?
August 11, 2009 5:16 PM

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Rachel Martin and Jake Tapper report:

President Obama today suggested that the health care reform legislation for which he’s pushing has been endorsed by the American Association of Retired Person.

We have the AARP on board because they know this is a good deal for our seniors,” the president said.

At another point he said: “Well, first of all, another myth that we've been hearing about is this notion that somehow we're going to be cutting your Medicare benefits. We are not. AARP would not be endorsing a bill if it was undermining Medicare, okay?”

The problem?

The AARP hasn't endorsed any plan yet.

The country's largest advocacy group for Americans over 50 issued a statement after the event saying, "While the President was correct that AARP will not endorse a health care reform bill that would reduce Medicare benefits, indications that we have endorsed any of the major health care reform bills currently under consideration in Congress are inaccurate."
 

Faster horses

Well-known member
I'm no fan of AARP and I paid my membership accidently, thinking
it was AAA... :???: :? :p Here is what was in the latest issue:

In an open letter to Jennie, AARP President, a question was posed and she answered it:


Q. We are worried health care reform may go to far. Will we be
forced into a plan or have to change doctors?

A. AARP will not support reform that would deny you the freedom of
choice to keep your current plan, including keeping your current doctor. That's what AARP's fight for health care reform is all about--creating the kind of quality, affordable, and uniquely American health care system you want.

AARP's policy agenda is driven by you, our members. We developed our health care reform priorities from nationwide member surveys, from member focus groups in a number of cities, and from the thousands of letters and phone calls we've received. You've told us what you need and what you want in health care reform, and that's exactly what we've been fighting for.

Those of you who like your current plan and your doctors have told us in no uncertain terms that you want to keep them. Those of you ages 50-64 who have had trouble getting coverage have told us that you're tired of being told you can't get insurance because of an illness you had five years ago, or because of some other preexisting condition, or because of your age. AARP supports reform that ensures Americans ages 50-64 a real choice of quality, affordable health care plans.

Those of you on Medicare let us know, in overwhelming numbers, how the Medicare Plan D prescritpion-drug coverage gap-the dreaded donut hole-is hurting you. Annually, about one-quarter of part D enrollees fall into the gap, paying so much more for brand-name meds that some people stop taking them altogether. Only 4% make it across the gap to the other side, when costs drop substantially.

There is good news at press time: AARP has endorsed an agreement--brokered by Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mt)--between President Obama and U.S. drug manufacturers, who have offered to pay half the costs for most people who reach the coverage gap, as part of health care reform legislation. This could take effect as early as July of next year.

Another serious problem we've been hearing more about lately is that of hospitals discharging older patients without any follow-up or 'transitional' services. One of every five Medicare beneficiaries is readmitted within 30 days of discharge; and one of every 3, within 90 days--often because of poor communication between patients, caregivers, and health care providers. We need a benefit in Medicare to help people safely transition to home or another setting to prevent costly and unnecassary hospital readmissions.

Our work is to see that you get more from health care reform, not less.
You deserve the peace of mind of knowing you will always have quality, affordable care. But we need your support to persuade Congress to act on AARP's common sense health care reform proirities. Please visit our health care reform website--healthactionnow.org--to see how you can make a difference in getting to needed solutions.

--Jennie Chin Hansen, President
 

Tam

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'Non-partisan' AARP named by Pelosi as part of Democrats August recess health care reform blitz UPDATED WITH AARP RESPONSE
By: Mark Tapscott Editorial Page Editor
08/03/09 4:47 PM EDT


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's August 31 memo to House Democrats with their instructions for the August recess described a comprehensive national campaign designed in conjunction with a long list of outside groups lobbying for government government health care.


Notably listed among those groups by Pelosi is AARP, the 40 million-member Goliath of Capitol Hill lobbying on behalf of government entitlement programs. Said Pelosi, according to a memo obtained by Human Events' Connie Hair:


"The Leadership is working in close coordination with the White House and outside groups (including but not limited to HCAN, Families USA, AFSCME, SEIU, AARP, etc.) to ensure complementary efforts during August. The President, Secretary Sebelius and other principals in the reform debate will be working throughout the month to hold events, promote the message in the press and move the reform effort forward."


Pelosi then added that:


"We are also working closely with supportive organizations to ensure they are implementing comprehensive plans for August that include grassroots efforts, media strategies and anything else that can add to the momentum. In addition, a list of groups supporting health reform has been provided to your offices with information on ways you can partner with them in your districts."


In other words, AARP and the other outside groups are actively coordinating their lobbying efforts with those of House Democrats in a campaign that is explicitly aimed against Republicans who oppose the government-run health care program approved by House Democrats Friday.


Since AARP is a tax-exempt, 501(C)(4) non-profit, it is permitted to lobby, which is why the organization has spent more thus far this year plying the halls of Congress and the White House than any other non-business non-profit. But tax-exempt non-profits are barred from participating in explicitly partisan efforts.


Even more surprising is how Pelosi's statement flatly contradicts what AARP vice president Drew Nannis claimed Friday here in Beltway Confidential:


"More importantly, and I’d think you’d get this right given your clear fervor for covering our organization, AARP has not endorsed any of the comprehensive reform bills out there but instead supports specific measures that would help our members, like pieces that would close the doughnut hole; make safe, generic versions of expensive biologic drugs available to people who cannot currently afford them; and crack down on waste, fraud and abuse in Medicare. Somehow you seem to have missed this from our CEO Barry Rand in the national tele-townhall we conducted on Tuesday, ‘I want to make it clear that AARP has not endorsed any of the bills currently being debated in the Congress.’ Stated, I might add, with the President sitting about 4 feet away."


Either Pelosi is mistaken or AARP is in fact actively endorsing and working for comprehensive reform measures. I have asked for a response from AARP, which will appear in this space as soon as it is received.


You can read the full Beltway Confidential post in which Nannis responded Friday here. You can read the full Pelosi document here, courtesy of Human Events.


UPDATE: "AARP is participating in AARP's campaign"


AARP's Nannis responded promptly to my inquiry regarding the Pelosi memo, saying he has not read it and that any questions about it should be directed to Pelosi's office. In other words, he declined to answer the direct question I put to him: Is Pelosi right or wrong in naming AARP as a participant in the Democrats' August recess PR blitz on behalf of government-run health care.


What he did say is this:


"AARP has not endorsed any of the comprehensive bills out there, but instead supports specific measures that would help our members. We do support the push for health reform this year and we have endorsed specific measures that would help older Americans (i.e., closing the doughnut hole, measures that make insurance more affordable, and long term care provisions).


"Our role in August recess is to answer our members’ questions directly. Everyone agrees that our health system costs too much, wastes too much and gives us too little value for our money. AARP is committed to finding a solution to that problem and, frankly, could care less which party comes up with that solution."


So, judge for yourself, who is telling the truth here, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi or AARP vice president Drew Nannis?


UPDATE II: Now AARP claims an "overzealous" Pelosi staffer erred


This is absolutely classic. After the above post appeared, Nannis got on the phone with Pelosi's office and came up with a familiar Washington variation on the "my dog ate my homework" excuse:


"Hey Mark – Based on your post and questions, I called the Speaker’s office to find out what, exactly, was going on. Below is the actual Memo that went out to members – I was told you had your hands on an earlier draft. So I’m including the memo for your reference as well as the email address of the staffer who sent it to me – Nadeam Elshami. So you can verify whatever you need to verify.


"You’ll note no discussion of coordination in the attached. My guess is an overzealous staffer drafted something earlier that got out before it was properly edited/fact-checked, etc. Regardless, I’m requesting that you update the post you’ve got up ….I look forward to our continued conversation."


Amazing, isn't it, how "over-zealous staffers" just magically appear?

Who is telling the truth and can anyone trust what they are hearing when it comes to US Health care reform.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
You know, I’m getting damn tired of this guy “misspeaking” every flipping day. You gullible fools elected on him accountability but refuse to hold him accountable for what he says, instead just pretending he didn’t say what he said or claiming he “misspoke”. Did he misspeak when he gave a time table for the expiration of employer sponsored health care or did he misspeak when he said that it would not go away? Exactly which time did he misspeak there? I’d like to know.

Did he misspeak when he said there was no pork in his spending bill?

Did he misspeak when he pledged there would be no lobbyists in his administration?

I could go on and on with the different times this piece of work has “misspoke”, but you’ve sold your soul I’d make more progress talking to a post.
 

Mike

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
You know, I’m getting damn tired of this guy “misspeaking” every flipping day. You gullible fools elected on him accountability but refuse to hold him accountable for what he says, instead just pretending he didn’t say what he said or claiming he “misspoke”. Did he misspeak when he gave a time table for the expiration of employer sponsored health care or did he misspeak when he said that it would not go away? Exactly which time did he misspeak there? I’d like to know.

Did he misspeak when he said there was no pork in his spending bill?

Did he misspeak when he pledged there would be no lobbyists in his administration?

I could go on and on with the different times this piece of work has “misspoke”, but you’ve sold your soul I’d make more progress talking to a post.

Too bad that every point in your post will be ignored by the resident Moonbats.

Seems as though they have gotten awfully picky about which posts they reply to now.

Hard to debate anything when the opponent gets to pick and choose the questions they answer.

R2, Alice, & OT are making less and less sense everytime I read their posts now. 'Specially the one where OT was talking about admiring T. Roosevelt and Eisenhower and in almost the same sentence compared them to Buckwheat. That took the cake for me. :roll:
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
How could he misspeak? He does not tell his kids good night at bedtime if it is not read off the teleprompter. And all that stuff is proof read!
 

Larrry

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Liberalsolutions.jpg
 

Yanuck

Well-known member
Larrry said:


One day a farmer's donkey fell down into a well.
The animal cried piteously for hours as

the farmer tried to figure out what to do.





Finally, he decided the animal was old, and the

well needed to be covered up anyway;

It just wasn't worth it to retrieve the donkey.





He invited all his neighbors to come over and

help him. They all grabbed a shovel and began

to shovel dirt into the well. At first, the

donkey realized what was happening and cried

horribly. Then, to everyone's amazement he

quieted down.





A few shovel loads later, the farmer finally

looked down the well. He was astonished at what

he saw. With each shovel of dirt that hit his

back, the donkey was doing something amazing.

He would shake it off and take a step up.





As the farmer's neighbors continued to shovel

dirt on top of the animal, he would shake it

off and take a step up.





Pretty soon, everyone was amazed as the donkey

stepped up over the edge of the well and

happily trotted off!





Life is going to shovel dirt on you, all kinds



of dirt. The trick to getting out of the well



is to shake it off and take a step up. Each of



our troubles is a steppingstone. We can get out



of the deepest wells just by not stopping,

Never giving up! Shake it off and take a step up.




Remember the five simple rules to be happy:



Free your heart from hatred - Forgive.



Free your mind from worries - Most never happen.



Live simply and appreciate what you have.



Give more.



Expect less



NOW ...........





Enough of that crap . . .

The donkey later came back, and bit the farmer who had tried to bury him.

The gash from the bite got infected and

the farmer eventually died in agony from septic shock.



MORAL FROM TODAY'S LESSON:





When you do something wrong,
and try to cover your ass,
it always comes back to bite you.
 
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