Tam said:
TSR said:
You know if all these doctors quit, just what are they going to do to earn the amount of money they are now making?? Not all of them are retirement age are they? Or have they earned enough in just a few years of practice to retire,hmmm? I know, they will go to Canada, OOPs can't go there they already have a similar plan in place. Mexico?? Might get shot crossing the border, not there. What a predicament. BTW there are a lot of flaws in the plan not many pieces of legislation isn't flawed but it will be terrible if the AMA's members have to take a cut in pay. Having said all that I am vehemently opposed to any illegal getting health insurance at the expense of the taxpayer but I guess they are doing so now via the emergency room/free clinics. Maybe the illegal alien problem should have been tackled before health reform.
All these Doctors would have to do is refuse to deal with Medicare and Medicaid patients to kill the US Medical system/Obamacare. Can you explain why they wouldn't refuse to deal with them when the reimbursments they recieve are about 50% of the cost of the treatment and Medicare reportedly refuses to pay on more claims than the private insurance companies do now espcially when Obama plans to cut their fees even further?
And if you think they won't refuse, stop a minute and remember that the Mayo Clinic in AZ. has already made the decision to refuse to treat them. Anyone getting treatment at that clinic has to pay out of pocket or go somewhere else. This is even after Obama used the Mayo Clinic's supposed support to sell his crap bill.
These Doctors took an oath "to do no harm" and if Obama and his HHS personel are going to be making the decisions on who can recieve treatment and what treatment they can have based on cost I can't blame the Doctors if they feel obligated to retire or find another career. :roll:
Well with respect to your first paragraph, if the doctors are living on near 50% of what they should be receiving then most that I know are doing pretty good. Of course i realize that most have patients other than medicare patients-but still pretty good. If all refused medicare patients then it would seem some would have time to catch up on their reading of those medical journals because they're not going to be very busy.
I would bet that many clinics have refused medicare patients but I would also bet that those patients are being seen by someone. Maybe the free-market system the republicans like so well is working here. I know there is only one doctor in my area that will put those drainage tubes in small children's ears for what the state insurance will pay. They say he stays busy all day every day. He btw is a foreign doctor seemingly glad to get the business.
Finally, if med. graduates took the Hippocratic oath, there's quite a bit more to it than "to do no harm". I'm not saying they all abide by it just like many politicians don't abide by the Constitution. IF those doctors can find another career that will pay as well or better then many would have already been gone. Sometimes I think the public is hoodwinked by shallow threats to the benefit of those threatening.