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WE TOLD YOU SO

Larrry

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So what does everyone have to say(esp libs) about obamas proposed tax increase. All that spending was a mortgage on our kids and grandkids future. The MORTGAGE is now due.
 

Mike

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OT told us that the Stimulus was a 2 year deal..............

Well............it's been 2 years and unemployment is still 9-10%, amongst other downturns in capitalism.

This reminds me of Obama:

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2011/02/who-lives-in-house-like-this.html
 

hopalong

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Unemployment in Montana was 7.4% in Dec 2010 so oldtimer can lay claim that it is good because below national average :wink:

Of course Dec 2007 it was 4.2%!!

Remind me again who was president??? :wink: :wink:

When Bush took office he inherited a jobless claim in Montana of 5.8%
from WHO?
Bush bust :wink: :wink:

EH oldtimer?????

We told you so!!!!
 

Steve

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hopalong

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Where are the famous libbies that always cry BUSH bust BUSG bust???
Guess oldtimer is in remission for his bash BUSH syndrome.

:D :D :D

EH old whiner opppps I mean oldtimer :wink: :wink:
 

rammtein7

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Larrry said:
So what does everyone have to say(esp libs) about obamas proposed tax increase. All that spending was a mortgage on our kids and grandkids future. The MORTGAGE is now due.

Soooooooooo how are we going to turn the economy around? And if you say "Tax Cuts" I'm going to puke.
 

Mike

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rammtein7 said:
Larrry said:
So what does everyone have to say(esp libs) about obamas proposed tax increase. All that spending was a mortgage on our kids and grandkids future. The MORTGAGE is now due.

Soooooooooo how are we going to turn the economy around? And if you say "Tax Cuts" I'm going to puke.

It (tax cuts) worked for JFK. Big time.

"It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now ... Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."

– John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, president's news conference



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"Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government."

– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 17, 1963, annual budget message to the Congress, fiscal year 1964

Maybe you will puke your guts out. :roll:
 

loomixguy

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Better cut the top off a 55 gallon drum, then, Einstein, and fill 'er up. :roll:

What you don't understand, Columbus, is that it's the PRIVATE SECTOR that is going to get the economy going again, NOT the government. When business is taxed to death, there will be no economic growth, fewer jobs, etc. The government never helped anybody except those who want to sit on their ass and light up a Camel.
 

hopalong

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Those like our good DR R pay no taxes so they don't care if taxes are raised!
Make him pay for each time he pukes then he might change his mind!

We have to hope that his puking will clean out his system and allow some sort of intelligence to seep in before it is too late.
 

Larrry

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rammy now that you mention it head to the john.

But really what I was driving at in this post was with all of obamas new spending programs, how do you pay for it. The bill is due. We have all been told that our taxes didn't go up, well obamas sttance is a direct contradiction to that liberal argument.

How do you handle the bills coming due? After all the libs had no problem with his rackin up all this spending.
 

Larrry

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rammtein7 said:
Larrry said:
So what does everyone have to say(esp libs) about obamas proposed tax increase. All that spending was a mortgage on our kids and grandkids future. The MORTGAGE is now due.

Soooooooooo how are we going to turn the economy around? And if you say "Tax Cuts" I'm going to puke.

I notice you didn't try and answer the question I asked.

So are you going to answer the question on how obama can pay for all this spending. Remember you have to do it without raising taxes, fees, dues surcharges etc.
 

hypocritexposer

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Larrry said:
rammtein7 said:
Larrry said:
So what does everyone have to say(esp libs) about obamas proposed tax increase. All that spending was a mortgage on our kids and grandkids future. The MORTGAGE is now due.

Soooooooooo how are we going to turn the economy around? And if you say "Tax Cuts" I'm going to puke.

I notice you didn't try and answer the question I asked.

So are you going to answer the question on how obama can pay for all this spending. Remember you have to do it without raising taxes, fees, dues surcharges etc.


Coming up with ideas to turn the economy around are useless.

obama has threatened to veto any spending cuts Congress comes up with, including defense, essentially setting the stage for the shutdown of Government.

Rammstein, how old are you? Taxes for the younger earners in the US will have to reach about 65-80% of your income in about 20 years and that's before state and local taxes.

Have fun paying for obama's spending spree.


but if you need some ideas on cutting the budget, here's 2 real quick items.

Illegal immigration costs approx. $100 Billion/year and will continue to increase by about 10%/year. Why not divert some spending on new back scatter machines at the airports to border security and save that $1.5 Trillion over the next 10 years.

The Dept of Education budget for 2010 is $46.7 Billion. The US spends most other Countries on Education and scores lower on international testing. Save the FED $$ and leave the Education spending up to the States.
 

Steve

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rammtein7 said:
Soooooooooo how are we going to turn the economy around? And if you say "Tax Cuts" I'm going to puke.

lets put it another way..

if you had a job, and your job was to manage the company,... and in the last two years revenue dropped off by 40%,... employee costs rose by 30%,... productivity dropped by 19%,... and your corporate debt was doubled..

Do you think it would be a good time to ask the boss for a raise?
 

Steve

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Larrry said:
rammy now that you mention it head to the john.

But really what I was driving at in this post was with all of obamas new spending programs, how do you pay for it. The bill is due. We have all been told that our taxes didn't go up, well obamas stance is a direct contradiction to that liberal argument.

How do you handle the bills coming due? After all the libs had no problem with his rackin up all this spending.

we may have been promised no taxes for the working class,.. but

I just looked at my cell phone bill and when writing certain checks I can print them out if they are the same every month as it usually is..

but I had to change the amount again.. instead of $---.26 it was $---.91

$ .65 cents... ?? so a quick look.. the only change.. the fed taxes went up

a few months back we had a new tax for 9-11 service..

my electric bill went way up.. and since we have a long complicated breakdown on the four page bill. it is easy to see the fed tax portion. and it went up.. the increase was not in proportion to the cost increase unless they are taxing taxes?

We are back to small nickle / dime increase in hidden taxes that are dealt to us by regulatory commissions..

one would think the media would be investigating how much these hidden taxes are cost US..


:?
 

Steve

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So are you going to answer the question on how obama can pay for all this spending. Remember you have to do it without raising taxes, fees, dues surcharges etc.

is Obama lieing if the FCC and other regulatory commissions raises the fees and surcharges, of restructures how the fees are calculated to get them to increase?
 

rammtein7

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hopalong said:
Those like our good DR R pay no taxes so they don't care if taxes are raised!
Make him pay for each time he pukes then he might change his mind!

We have to hope that his puking will clean out his system and allow some sort of intelligence to seep in before it is too late.

The hell I don't pay Taxes. If it's to help the country, I don't care.
 

hypocritexposer

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rammtein7 said:
hopalong said:
Those like our good DR R pay no taxes so they don't care if taxes are raised!
Make him pay for each time he pukes then he might change his mind!

We have to hope that his puking will clean out his system and allow some sort of intelligence to seep in before it is too late.

The hell I don't pay Taxes. If it's to help the country, I don't care.

Then donate more than what you are paying now.

Can you explain how tripling the deficit is helping the country?

Doesn't devaluing the dollar, cause inflation, which hurts the poor and middle class?
 

rammtein7

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hypocritexposer said:
rammtein7 said:
hopalong said:
Those like our good DR R pay no taxes so they don't care if taxes are raised!
Make him pay for each time he pukes then he might change his mind!

We have to hope that his puking will clean out his system and allow some sort of intelligence to seep in before it is too late.

The hell I don't pay Taxes. If it's to help the country, I don't care.

Then donate more than what you are paying now.

Can you explain how tripling the deficit is helping the country?

Doesn't devaluing the dollar, cause inflation, which hurts the poor and middle class?

Riiiiiiight with the $14 trillion I have lying around...
 
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