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Weapons of Mass Destruction - who makes them and sells them.

Kathy

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http://www.sfbayview.com/120804/nuclearweapons120804.shtml

(see list at the bottom, for the links to other articles in this series)
The USA has sold DU technology to 29 different countries. When I get the full list, I'll post it.

Who should control the US nuclear weapons program?

UC Regents lose nuclear weapons program, Part 9


by Leuren Moret


In November of 1991, Richard Berta, the Western Regional inspector for the Department of Energy at the nuclear weapons labs and the Nevada Test Site, told me: “The nuclear weapons labs exist for the Pentagon … and the Pentagon exists for the oil companies.”

This statement reveals the hidden purpose for transferring the nuclear weapons lab management contract to Texas, where the University of Texas-Texas A&M partnership will formally hold the contract. And it is that contract that enables the Bush-Carlyle Group-oil companies cabal to take control.

It is not the mission of any university to develop Weapons of Mass Destruction, nor to control nuclear weapons research and management. Many members of the University of California faculty have long opposed UC management of the labs, and they are supported by a majority of the students and many citizens. Many Texans also oppose transfer of the nuclear weapons program to the University of Texas and Texas A&M.

WMD at the University of California?

The weapons industry is highly profitable. UC is now in the position of managing, developing, producing, promoting, proliferating, investing in and profiting from Weapons of Mass Destruction - thermonuclear weapons and depleted uranium weaponry. In fact, it is a major academic participant and benefactor of research funds from the military (see Fiat Pax for military funding at U.S. universities).

The institutional dedication and focus of UC to projects of mass and indiscriminate destruction - which may lead to extinction of the human species - rather than to education and new energy sources is hardly exemplary. But their profits and funds are not derived from military research grants alone.

In 1999, UC ranked first in the nation, raking in $61 million from academic patent royalties. In 2001, it received $1.8 billion in gifts, the largest single donation of nearly $200 million coming from the estate of UC alumnus Larry Hillblom, founder of DHL Corp., who died in 1995 in a plane crash.

But that wasn’t enough. Recently UCLA was caught in a scandal, selling body parts from 800 bodies that had been donated for scientific research. The buyers had also sold cadavers to the U.S. Army which were blown up in land-mine experiments (see “The UCLA Body Parts Scandal” and “Donated Bodies Blown Up by Army”).

The U.S. Army paid $10,000 for each body to be used for land-mine research, which may have included the ADAM depleted uranium landmine. The official Army response was that they were just “testing boots.”

The fact that UC is developing, investing in and profiting from depleted uranium (DU) weaponry, which meets the definition of Weapons of Mass Destruction under U.S. federal law, makes UC complicit in war crimes. (For a graphic look at war crimes in Afghanistan, see “AC-130 Spectre Gunship video,” a leaked U.S. military combat mission in Afghanistan.)

UC has invested $33,046,370 in Lockheed Martin Marietta, one of the largest military industrial corporations, and $21,471,120 in General Dynamics, one of the two biggest U.S. manufacturers of DU weaponry. Students and faculty should be informed of this.

The University of California investment in war profiteering is small compared to CalPERS, the State of California employee pension fund now worth $177.8 billion (see “CalPERS Pension Fund President Ousted”). CalPERS owns 5.5 percent of the Carlyle Group, with a return on investment of 20-30 percent per year and an option to buy an additional 5 percent within a few years.

As a land grant university, the University of California has a mandate and mission to educate the citizens of California, and it should have special consideration for people of color and people with disabilities. As the state with probably the greatest diversity in the nation, California universities had the chance to provide a vital and creative model for the nation.

Instead, administrators have pigged out feeding at the public trough, giving themselves 25 percent raises while throwing breadcrumbs to the staff – a paltry 2 percent for the workers. This was the pattern I observed at the Livermore nuclear weapons lab, where a secret document revealed that the five top administrators in the Geosciences Department, where I worked, gave themselves 25 percent raises on their $120,000+ salaries.

We were given bad annual job evaluations each year to justify the paltry 1.5 percent raises we received annually. Instead of a model for the nation, the University of California is one of the most corrupt institutions I have ever encountered. As a lawyer representing some of the 500 women who filed lawsuits against UC told me “UC is rotten and corrupt from the bottom to the top and back to the bottom” … and I later found out so was she.

The Carlyle Group - shadow government?

Former Manhattan Project scientist and retired Livermore Lab nuclear physical chemist Marion Fulk warns, “The military should NEVER be in control of the nuclear weapons program; it should be in civilian hands.”

The Carlyle Group, worth about $14 billion in 2001, with vested interests and ties to the Bush crime family and oil companies, cannot be investigated or subjected to any oversight whatsoever because it is a private corporation. For that reason, it should not have any control or influence over U.S. nuclear weapons policy and development.

Admiral Bobby Ray Inman and his associates in the intelligence business have demonstrated their systematic and treasonous abuse of the internet, voting machines and American civil liberties. Should we give them the trigger, the nukes, the budget they want, and the cover of secrecy?

Eliminating resistance to change?

The “old guard” at the nuclear weapons labs is being systematically targeted, scapegoated and run out of the labs to “clear out the old and bring in the new” by those “UC admirals” and Homeland Security folks. Recently, the lab badge of a retired Livermore scientist Marion Fulk was cancelled by Homeland Security without explanation.

Fulk remarked, “This is ridiculous. Hell, I have higher security than anyone in Homeland Security. What does Tom Ridge know about nuclear weapons?”

You can bet Fulk will get his badge back when they call him to one of those “problem meetings.” At the last problem meeting, he discovered that the plutonium canisters in the high security vault at Livermore were puffing up like muffins in a hot oven, which could have led to a major criticality disaster wiping out the Western United States and beyond.

Younger scientists had arbitrarily changed the canister design, which allowed moisture to enter the canisters, dangerously generating hydrogen gas. Eliminating the older and more knowledgeable nuclear weapons experts from the labs is a dangerous practice. It is time to demand some answers from the “UC admirals” in charge now about their motives behind such changes.

National Science Foundation?

Management and oversight of the nuclear weapons labs belongs at a place like the National Science Foundation, a U.S. government agency with the resources to make rational decisions and reign in the planned unlimited proliferation of nuclear weapons on earth and in space.

Nuclear weapons are now obsolete. If the money spent on the nuclear weapons program had been spent on alternative energy development, the U.S. would now be a healthy and wealthy country. Instead, the U.S. economy is bankrupt, with an unhealthy population suffering from the long-term effects of nuclear weapons testing, a radiation contaminated environment and little choice left but to steal oil resources from other countries.

A young student at a San Francisco antiwar demonstration two years ago held up a sign, “Nuke their ass and take their gas.” That sums up the present U.S. foreign policy.

Professor Butler Shaffer of Southwestern University School of Law put it this way: “There is a toxic quality to war that affects the inner life of individuals and, as a collective consequence, the society itself. In the degradation and dehumanization of the individual lies the destruction of all mankind.”

References

“Fiat Pax (Let there be peace): A Resource on Science, Technology, Militarism, and Universities,” http://www.fiatpax.net.

“How Research Turns Into Royalties,” Stanford University Alumni Magazine, March-April 1999.

“Gifts to UC Total $1.8 Billion Last Year,” by Helen Hwang, Daily Cal, Feb. 7, 2002, http://www.dailycal.org/article.php?id=7600.

“Asian Children Finally Get Part of $550-Million Estate,” by Mary Curtius, Los Angeles Times, May 20, 1999, http://www.wright.edu/~tran.dung/vn_boy.htm.

“The UCLA Body Parts Scandal,” by C. Ornstein and A. Zorembo, March 10, 2004, Los Angeles Times, http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-bodies10mar10,1,6780091.story?coll=la-headlines-california.

“Donated bodies blown up by Army” by Stewart Yerton, The Times Picayune, March 10, 2004, http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a856.htm.

“CalPERS Pension Fund President Ousted,” by Ben White, The Washington Post, Dec. 1, 2004, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25537-2004Dec1.html.

To read Parts 1 through 8 of this series, go to http://www.sfbayview.com/091504/ucregents091504.shtml, http://www.sfbayview.com/092204/nuclearweapons092204.shtml, http://www.sfbayview.com/092904/nuclearweapons2092904.shtml, http://www.sfbayview.com/100604/nuclearweapons100604.shtml, http://www.sfbayview.com/101304/nuclearweapons101304.shtml, http://www.sfbayview.com/110304/ucregents110304.shtml, http://www.sfbayview.com/112404/ucregents112404.shtml and http://www.sfbayview.com/120104/nuclearcorridor120104.shtml. Leuren Moret, a geoscientist who worked at the Livermore nuclear weapons lab where she became a whistleblower in 1991, has survived 13 years of retaliation from the Livermore Lab and the University of California and has lived firsthand the experiences of Karen Silkwood. A radiation specialist, she works around the world educating citizens, the media and lawmakers about the impact of radiation globally on the health of the public and the environment. She assisted with Al-Jazeera’s recent report on depleted uranium weapons which quickly became one of the most read articles produced by the website. “DU: Washington’s Secret Nuclear War” can be read at http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2004/DU-Secret-Nuclear-War14sep04.htm. She is an independent scientist and an environmental commissioner for the City of Berkeley and can be reached at [email protected]
 

Kathy

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Sorry, I strongly disagree chief.

This isn't a politcal story. It is a health issue. Using DU weapons is a war crime, it is a horrific attack on future generations. It is a slow nuclear weapon, as opposed to a plutonium bomb.

We (I) spend a great deal of time talking about the causes of BSE, CWD, Alzheimers, CJD and other neurological disorders. The use of DU weapons will result in uranium nanoparticles accummulating in the brain, just as I have listed in past threads, evidence from abstracts/ medical papers on the subject.

One such paper found uranium in the brain of Alzheimer victims. The DU weapons release nanoparticles of uranium oxide into the environment and they have been proven to travel all the way from Afganastan and Iraq to Britian, considerably (though temporarily) raising the background levels of radiation (normal anywhere from 30 - 100, and after shock and awe campaigns in Iraq levels jumped to 1300+).

Potentially, and probably, down the road many years from this occurrence, Britain will see a rise in vCJD and other neurological disorders (and cancers, leukemia) - Don't you think that, this will be blamed solely on the "infectious BSE prion". We are convenient scapegoats for the military's and atomic energy commission's deadly actions (releasing radio-active particles into our environment).

How can you say this is just a politica issue? People are dying because of the military use of DU, including USA soldiers. The consequences don't stop there either. There are very high birth defects in children born to the soldiers after they return (if exposed to DU on tour), and many of their wives are developing endometrial cancers.

People, like Leuren Moret, who have worked in these nuclear labs in the past - came to see the light, and are now trying to get regular citizens (like us on ranchers) to educate themselves a little about this matter; and then when you've seen the light, demand that the use of DU weapons be stopped.

The article gives links to many other articles about DU. Ms. Moret has been able to identify the epidemiological trend which links the use of DU to sky-rocketing diabetes rates around the world. She has learned that the nuclear bombs tested in the USA had cores containing kilos of plutonium surrounded (tamped) by tonnes of DU which vapourized during the explosions forming nanoparticles of uranium oxide which circle the globe.

It is imperative that we analyze tissues (in all types of disorders) for the presence of depleted uranium nanoparticles. People who don't care to talk politics, can certainly relate to health concerns surrounding its use.
 

the chief

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Ok, whatever. :roll:

After "scrolling" over the article for 5 minutes, I finally found what DU meant. Other than your article, I have NEVER heard of this problem. And you know what, I still don't think I will take time to worry about it. I'm sure you will do fine worrying about it ALL by yourself. :shock:
 

Kathy

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I found out about all THIS through Americans, including the Gulf War Veterans Association. There are over 500,000 USA soldiers on disability since 1991 (the first invasion with depleted uranium) of Iraq.

You don't have to think about it chief.

But don't fool yourself. You haven't heard about because your government (and others, including mine) don't want you to know. Sadly, the soldiers suffering and their families, know about it all to well.
 

flounder

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chief wrote;

> THIS topic should be on the POLITICAL site, Kathy. Not here. OK?


i agree chief, but kathy does not understand politics or bse or the fact that OPs and Metals do not CAUSE any TSE. i bet if you checked kathy out with a geiger counter she would peg it out from radiation :wink: :lol: :lol2: :nod:


p.s. kathy sent me her latest xray, and as i predicted, she glows in the dark :wink:


http://www.orau.org/PTP/collection/atomictoys/homercomicdark.jpg


TSS
 

Kathy

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Why do Ms. Rice and the USA government, (and the puppet government of Canada - Peter MacKay foreign affairs) want the Israeli - Lebanon conflict to continue?

Why are they against a "cease fire agreement"?

Retired Major Doug Rokke was interviewed today on Alex Jones radio program. He confirmed that Israel is using USA manufactured DU bombs to hammer, pulverize and contaminate Lebanon cities.

News footage has confirmed this.

Major Rokke stated today (July 26), that very reliable sources in the Pentagon confirmed that "just last week the USA delivered over 100 DU bunker busters to Israel." (bombs with hundreds of pounds of depleted uranium).

I guess Rice, MacKay and others want these weapons used before the conflict is halted.

By the time Israel is done, there will be nothing left of the Lebanese infrastructure.

I am against all violence. The response from Israel against Lebanon is calculated and way, way out of line.

Any government or group that uses DU weapons cannot be believed or trusted.
 

memanpa

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pretty dog gone good when FLOUNDER steps in and tells KATHY her eyes are suffering from opticle rectitise


CRAPPY OUTLOOK
 

Kathy

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I don't know why you care so much chief, you obviously don't care about the well-being and murder of innocent children with DU weapons.

You have nothing of any value to say in regards to DU weapons:

Other than your article, I have NEVER heard of this problem. And you know what, I still don't think I will take time to worry about it.

I didn't know about these weapons until a couple years ago.

Once you accept the fact that so-called 'free nations' are manufacturing them, selling them and using them on other nations and their civilians - you will have to deal with your own conscience.

The USA has spent too long defining itself as the world 'super-power'; the country with the atomic bombs that wiped out Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Where will all the war-mongering take us? World War III. No, I don't think we will ever see a World War III. What we have now is not a war of nations, or good versus bad. Bad has permiated man's soul.

Technology has created weapons which detach the killing from the killers. The media blocks all the death so the public doesn't get upset.

Funny thing, chief, the testing of DU weapons on American soil has contaminated its fair share too. The toxic particles will find their way into everyone.

Just as the fallout from atomic bomb tests, in Nevada, fell on New York and the eastern states. We are all down-winders now.
 

memanpa

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HEY kathy
nice to see you again!
I kind of lost track of you when you went in for your lobotimy!

darn it is a shame it didn't work!
 
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