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WELL SO MUCH FOR RULE 2

RULE 2

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HAY MAKER

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Due to some confusion, the voteing on this issue is being repolled,please vote in the latest poll...................good luck
 

mwj

Well-known member
HAY MAKER said:
You canuckleheads have allowed unbranded contraband cattle across the quarantine line,and have another post feed ban case of BSE,damned bull had to die to be tested,chances are he would have been missed,if he did'nt die,so much for the 3 "D's on the farm :mad: without a means of tracking live canadian cattle,how much sense does it make to turn em south ? :???: ............................good luck

Seems the only thing that you cheer leaders cant come up with on the 7 head of cattle is the proof. Do you care to show any or do you just want to bluster along with your fingers in your ears :wink:
 

HAY MAKER

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mwj said:
HAY MAKER said:
You canuckleheads have allowed unbranded contraband cattle across the quarantine line,and have another post feed ban case of BSE,damned bull had to die to be tested,chances are he would have been missed,if he did'nt die,so much for the 3 "D's on the farm :mad: without a means of tracking live canadian cattle,how much sense does it make to turn em south ? :???: ............................good luck

Seems the only thing that you cheer leaders cant come up with on the 7 head of cattle is the proof. Do you care to show any or do you just want to bluster along with your fingers in your ears :wink:

mwj,I doubt seriously you want to get into a name calling contest with me,why dont you just ignore my posts,like I do yours ?,pretty easy to hide behind a keyboard,and call names.............good luck
 

cowsense

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Haymaker; As usual you are posting wild accusations about Canadian beef producers...................care to post some actual proof of what you claim .........................or is the whiskey talking again!! :drink: :???:
 

HAY MAKER

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cowsense said:
Haymaker; As usual you are posting wild accusations about Canadian beef producers...................care to post some actual proof of what you claim .........................or is the whiskey talking again!! :drink: :???:

Cowsense,these are not wild accusations,contraband cattle showed up at a cattlemans feedlot,and you have another case of post feed ban BSE ?
what did the man that owned the bull do wait till it died to test em,I guess he claims the bull showed no symptoms of BSE ? looks to me like you oughta change your so called 3 D's to 1 D ...........dead.
good luck
 

cowsense

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Haymaker; Go back and READ the final news clippings.........there were no contraband cattle! Our ID tags defianately proved those cattle COULD not have been in the US when it was claimed. As for the BSE case it was expected that more cases would be found...........we're dealing with the disease in an as transparent and responsible manner as is possible! I suppose that we could adopt the 3S's from some of you guys but I personaly feel that the shoot,shovel and shutup scenario is gonna come back and bite you big time!
PS.........I'm still waiting for your actual proof (& not 40 proof either)!
 

HAY MAKER

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cowsense said:
Haymaker; Go back and READ the final news clippings.........there were no contraband cattle! Our ID tags defianately proved those cattle COULD not have been in the US when it was claimed. As for the BSE case it was expected that more cases would be found...........we're dealing with the disease in an as transparent and responsible manner as is possible! I suppose that we could adopt the 3S's from some of you guys but I personaly feel that the shoot,shovel and shutup scenario is gonna come back and bite you big time!
PS.........I'm still waiting for your actual proof (& not 40 proof either)!

Maybe you oughta go back and read the previous post/poll about the 7 feeder cattle,yes it sez............we believe the cattle man...........good luck

PS I have provided the proof,you just refuse to acknowledge it,like I previously posted,it all comes down to who do you believe............good luck

WHO DO YOU BELIEVE
THE CATTLE MAN
51% [ 21 ]
THE USDA
48% [ 20 ]

Total Votes : 41
 

Kato

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If the special interest groups spent half of the energy on finding constructive solutions to their percieved problems as they do running around denying the truth that is right in front of them, then maybe something good might happen. The cattle were not illegal. That is the fact, like it or not.

The charitable thing to say is that cattleman was mistaken.

The results of that poll show just how deep American distrust of their own government goes. That is a sad sad state of affairs.

Is your entire system rotten to the core? Or does everyone just like to try and convince others of it, in order to promote their own agendas? What a selfish attitude that is! A lose lose situation if there ever was one.


USDA - The sky is blue!
RESPONSE - It's a coverup! :shock: :shock:
 

Big Muddy rancher

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HAY MAKER said:
You canuckleheads have allowed unbranded contraband cattle across the quarantine line,and have another post feed ban case of BSE,damned bull had to die to be tested,chances are he would have been missed,if he did'nt die,so much for the 3 "D's on the farm :mad: without a means of tracking live canadian cattle,how much sense does it make to turn em south ? :???: ............................good luck


Haymaker how did we allow unbranded contraband cattle across the line? Did we sneak them in on the backs of Mexicans?

Why don't you come up here and check out what a real border crossing is like. I doubt either side would let you in. You would be stuck in No Mans land right where you belong. :cowboy:
 

mwj

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HAY MAKER said:
mwj said:
HAY MAKER said:
You canuckleheads have allowed unbranded contraband cattle across the quarantine line,and have another post feed ban case of BSE,damned bull had to die to be tested,chances are he would have been missed,if he did'nt die,so much for the 3 "D's on the farm :mad: without a means of tracking live canadian cattle,how much sense does it make to turn em south ? :???: ............................good luck

Seems the only thing that you cheer leaders cant come up with on the 7 head of cattle is the proof. Do you care to show any or do you just want to bluster along with your fingers in your ears :wink:

mwj,I doubt seriously you want to get into a name calling contest with me,why dont you just ignore my posts,like I do yours ?,pretty easy to hide behind a keyboard,and call names.............good luck


Now Haymaker if you ignore my posts why did you just reply to one. Does that mean you just told an untruth :shock: :oops:
 
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Anonymous

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Looks to me that it isn't just R-CALF-- the cattleman across the US all have concerns about the Rule 2 and don't support it as it is written.....


National Farmers Union
In the interest of U.S. producers and consumers, USDA should withdraw the proposed rule to expand Canadian beef and cattle imports. The department should also move to immediately implement mandatory country of origin labeling which would allow consumers to make an informed choice of where their food comes from.”


NCBA
NCBA is reviewing the proposed rule along with a detailed economic and scientific analysis developed for NCBA members as we work to shape our comments. At last week’s annual meeting in Nashville, NCBA members did not reject the USDA proposal, but adopted a policy voicing concerns about its possible impact. The interim policy adopted February 3rd demands permanent identification of all live cattle imported from Canada through harvest, and calls for USDA to develop an orderly market transition plan before expanding the scope of cattle and beef imports from Canada.


R-CALF
“This demonstrates just how ridiculous and premature it is for our government to be considering even further relaxations of our import standards that would allow into the U.S. imports of Canadian cattle older than 30 months (OTM) of age, as well as the government’s intention to allow into the U.S. beef products from Canadian cattle of any age,” Thornsberry continued. “OTM cattle in a BSE-affected country bear an inherently higher risk for the disease, so R-CALF calls for the immediate withdrawal of this proposed rule.
 

rkaiser

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Probably not Oldtimer. We all know that this board is infested with a few Rcalf protectioinist like yourself. I'd like to see a poll among all American producers period.
 

Sandhusker

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rkaiser said:
Probably not Oldtimer. We all know that this board is infested with a few Rcalf protectioinist like yourself. I'd like to see a poll among all American producers period.

What about us R-CALF members that are't protectionist?
 
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Anonymous

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rkaiser said:
Probably not Oldtimer. We all know that this board is infested with a few Rcalf protectioinist like yourself. I'd like to see a poll among all American producers period.

I think the 92% on the checkoff poll that want their dollar used to support born, raised, and slaughtered in the USA BEEF speaks pretty loudly to some of the feelings right now in the US cattle industry.....
Most want M-COOL before any more border opening....

Even Johanss is waivering a little now saying that at the end of the comment period things could be changed-- and others calling for an extended comment period....
 

rkaiser

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You go Oldtimer, the more govenrment rules the better for your mutinational buddies.
They are only a few years off from exiting the trap line in Canada anyway. Think about it OT. Cargill and Tyson came here because there was potential for a bit of export market. They bumped into this salmon run and are profitting quite nicely off the Canadian producer and consumer at the moment. But our cow herd is declining and soon Canadian Politicians will wake up from their dreamworld of satisfying these pirates. It may take a long time to rid ourselves of these scum sucking ^%$#'s since they now have 80% of the slaughter market tied up, but times will change. There are a lot better oportunities on the horizon in South America, and Canada may be left to it's own wallowing. Wallowing that is, until our country wakes up to the freedom of testing for export marketing and allows bewcomers to punt Cargill and Tyson out on their ass.

Make this border issue the most important thing in your life Oldtimer, I guarantee you will live to regret it. The cards not yet played are the cards that will truly hurt your American neighbors, and you are simply loading the Multinational deck.
 
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