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What do you think will Obamacare pass?

Tam

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After thinking about what Obama has gotten away with, I fear it will. Think about it Who had ACORN committing voter fraud on his behave? Who had Union thugs pounding the pavement (and townhallers) in support of his agenda? When it came to election day who had the Black Panthers opennly intimidating voters at a polling station? But what happen to ACORN, nothing the investigations into voter fraud was stopped by Obama's DOJ. What happen to the Union thugs, nothing they got their reward by having their insurance policies exempt from Obamacare until 2018. What happen to the Black Panthers nothing the Obama DOJ dropped charges that were filed.

Now look at the other side of this

Any Congressman not supporting him seems to find themself in surprize ethics investigation. Anyone objecting to his agenda is attacked by the Leftwing media and called nasty names. Anyone daring to question his qualifications are stopped by a gang of lawyers.

This guy and his friends seems to be untouchable and seems to get what ever they want. and anyone standing in their way has tire tracks on their backs. :roll: :x

What I would like to know is what does he hold over some of these Congressmen's heads that they are willing to follow him over the cliff and vote for a bill that the majority of Americans don't want? It has to be bad if they are willing to committ career suicide for him!!!!!! :roll:
 

jcummins

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They are ALL corrupt. So....his threat is to expose that corruption on the ones he selects.

I fear our country is lost.
 

katrina

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I still have faith in this big beautiful country..... Will obamacare pass.... I don't know..... I do know that if it does there will be an uprising like we have never seen.... The country is mad as hell.... If it does pass the people of this country will roll up their sleeves and start cleaning house (and senate). This is history in the making and we must do all we can do to take our country back.... States right now are legislatine laws to make obamacare null and void in there state... Get your boots on guys cause it's gonna get ugly..... :wave:
 

Clarencen

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I don't think it will pass. It is going to be close, but more then 90% of the people don't want it. While most people believe something needs to be done, there has to be a more open plan. Health care has to be paid for, whatever the plan. The costs are not much different if paid by taxes, insurance or directly out of your pocket. People are afraid the costs will be shifted to themselves with little benefit for anyone. Sometimes it is best to leave well enough alone. Scrap the plan and start over. Most of this plan won't go into effect until 2012 or later, it is no emergency. It should not be just about insurance and who can or who will pay for it, let's look at who does or does not get adequate health care then go from there.

Medicare has already dropped some of the things they did pay for, it raised the cost of the supplemental insurance or what you pay out of your pocket. We who are in business, look first at what we can afford, and how we will pay for it, before we make drastic changes. Shouldn't government do the same?
 

Steve

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Any Congressman not supporting him seems to find themself in surprize ethics investigation. Anyone objecting to his agenda is attacked by the Leftwing media and called nasty names. Anyone daring to question his qualifications are stopped by a gang of lawyers.

This guy and his friends seems to be untouchable and seems to get what ever they want. and anyone standing in their way has tire tracks on their backs.

What I would like to know is what does he hold over some of these Congressmen's heads that they are willing to follow him over the cliff and vote for a bill that the majority of Americans don't want? It has to be bad if they are willing to commit career suicide for him!!!!!!

interesting look into the "real" Obama administration... and the swamp...

open debate is good, and this debate on health care may have ripped open a few wounds, but it is exposing the side of DC the media seems to want to ignore.. it seems the more exposure we get on the health care bill, the more corruption we see...
 

MoGal

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Of course it will pass. Our government does not serve, "we the people", they serve the Committee of 300, the shadow government who wants to implement a global world government, currency, global laws, etc.......

Didn't the so called, "conspiracy theorists" say that during last years Bilderburg meeting their top priority was getting Americans microchipped....... RFID tags...... well one of the things in Obamacare is RFID chips.

I'm not getting any microchip in my body or on my body and that's final. They can have microchipping parties in Europe all they want, but I'm not going to one here in the US. I am not amused with their ignorance of the Bible.
 

Clarencen

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It looks like they are going to try to use every trick in the book to get it passed; they might be writing their own obituaries. Elephants have long memories.
 

Steve

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Clarencen said:
It looks like they are going to try to use every trick in the book to get it passed; they might be writing their own obituaries. Elephants have long memories.

if it was a good bill, and good for the country, the Obama administration and democratic leadership wouldn't have use every trick in the book to get it passed...
 

Tam

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I heard today that Nebraska will loose their special deal as Nelson backed away after the hell he got from his voters. BUT Conn., Montana and Florida will retain theirs as their Senators are not willing to give them up. Not sure if Louisana will loose theirs but I doubt Obama will be taking the Unions special deal away. So much for Obama's promise of no special behind close door deals. :wink:
One has to wonder if Obama even knows what he is selling out on the continuing campaign trail? :? As I thought the White House said they will not be funding abortions but I heard Stupak was told by Waxman, the Senate wants to fund abortions so they can cut costs in the future, (less born today, less to cover tomorrow) and that is why he says he will not vote for the Senate bill.
 

MoGal

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Tam: Do you realize we are funding abortions in other parts of the world??? Sodom and Gomorrah doesn't have anything over on the US, we are just like them. I compare the news going on around the world to the Bible and see what God says. People refuse to see that its spiritual warfare going on because the bible is just a "fiction book".

Did you see last month's news? A russian journalist suggested that all russian children with defects (mental and physcial) be euthanized?? Did you see last weeks news where Spain is teaching 3rd graders about beastiality?

Over here we've got so many things going on its not even amusing.

Something I've noticed for a while now, anytime there is something important being discussed or voted on in Congress then the mainstream media news inunndates you with the latest sex scandal or wrongdoing of some sports figure , movie star, singer, etc........ I guess they had nothing better than the kid who was in the air traffic control tower with his dad and that was good for at least a week's worth while they barely glossed over the discussions being held in Congress. Don't be fooled by msm antics because I immediately start looking at what is going on in Congress when they do that.
 

Tam

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MoGal said:
Tam: Do you realize we are funding abortions in other parts of the world??? Sodom and Gomorrah doesn't have anything over on the US, we are just like them. I compare the news going on around the world to the Bible and see what God says. People refuse to see that its spiritual warfare going on because the bible is just a "fiction book".

Did you see last month's news? A russian journalist suggested that all russian children with defects (mental and physcial) be euthanized?? Did you see last weeks news where Spain is teaching 3rd graders about beastiality?

Over here we've got so many things going on its not even amusing.

Something I've noticed for a while now, anytime there is something important being discussed or voted on in Congress then the mainstream media news inunndates you with the latest sex scandal or wrongdoing of some sports figure , movie star, singer, etc........ I guess they had nothing better than the kid who was in the air traffic control tower with his dad and that was good for at least a week's worth while they barely glossed over the discussions being held in Congress. Don't be fooled by msm antics because I immediately start looking at what is going on in Congress when they do that.

I try pay little attention to what Edwards or Tiger or the countless other distractions are doing as like Glenn Beck always says when they are waiving one hand in your face keep your eye on the other one.

The White House and Pelosi would like nothing more than to blame the Republicans for holding up everything in Congress but the truth always seems to get out. This bill is so bad they can't even convince their fellow Dems to jump off the career ending cliff to pass it. Well not at least before they get they fair share of backroom pocket lining perks to ease their fall. And if that doesn't work I hear Rahm and the far left zealots are not above a little strong arm twisting threats on those that can't be bought off.

All I can say is when they use their pocket full of perks and dirty tricks and threats to pass the monstrosity of a mistake I hope the voters justly reward them for their efforts in Nov. and again in Nov 2012. The US voters need to speak up and speak loud enough that even Obama on Air Force One can hear them. If the Dems choose to shut their ears to the voters then the voters need to stand strong and shut the door in their faces when they come knocking looking for their votes come Nov.
As the old saying goes "Help those who help themselves" in other words "Give a man a fish and he eats once, teach a man to fish and he feeds his family with pride and dignity" . What the Dems want to do is hand out fish not fishing poles. It's time to Take back the power or they will run your life and the live of your children into bankrupcy to achieve their socialist agenda.
 
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