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Mike

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Al Qaeda chief warns attacks on US in 'everyone's reach'

Al-Qaeda's military chief in Yemen warned Americans in an audio message posted online Sunday that the Boston bombings revealed a fragile security as he urged Muslims to defend their religion.
AFP - Al-Qaeda's military chief in Yemen warned Americans in an audio message posted online Sunday that the Boston bombings revealed a fragile security as he urged Muslims to defend their religion.

Qassim al-Rimi, the military chief of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, said making bombs such as the ones used in the twin blasts in Boston in April, is within "everyone's reach".

"The Boston events... and the poisoned letters (sent to the White House), regardless of who is behind them, show that your security is no longer under control, and that attacks on you have taken off and cannot be stopped," he said, in the message entitled: "A letter to the American people."

"Every day you will be hit by the unexpected and your leaders will not be able to defend you," warned the man whose organisation is considered by Washington the world's most dangerous Al-Qaeda branch.

Rimi said the killing of Al-Qaeda's founder Osama bin Laden in May 2011 and top Yemeni-American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki in September 2011, had not ended the struggle.

"Have you eliminated the jihadist groups that have spread everywhere after they had only been in Afghanistan? Today, they are in your land or close to it," he warned.

To the Muslims in the United States, he said: "We encourage you to carry on with this way, be steadfast in your religion.

"Carry out your obligations, defend your religion and follow in the footsteps of those who supported their religion and Ummah (Muslim nation) while they are in their enemy's den," he said.

Two brothers, 19-year-old Dzhokhar and 26-year-old Tamerlan Tsarnaev, are accused of being behind the April 15 attack near the finish line of the Boston Marathon that killed three people and wounded more than 260.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was killed in a shootout with police, and Dzhokhar was captured and taken into custody after an extensive manhunt.

At about the same time, three letters laced with ricin were discovered, one addressed to US President Barack Obama, one to Republican Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi and a third to a justice of the peace in the same US state, Sadie Holland.

Charges were later dropped against a man initially suspected to be behind the letters, Paul Curtis.
 

Whitewing

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Qassim al-Rimi has finally figured out what the rest of us have known for years. The current administration is a failure on every level.

If only we'd told Qassim.
 

Mike

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Whitewing said:
Qassim al-Rimi has finally figured out what the rest of us have known for years. The current administration is a failure on every level.

If only we'd told Qassim.

Yep. Buckwheat has ruined the FBI, the IRS, the EPA, HHS, DOJ, and just about every other branch of the U.S. gov't.

Great minds think alike. :lol: :lol:
 

Mike

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Russian intelligence officials believe that if U.S. authorities had acted on warnings about Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the Boston Marathon bombings could have been prevented, U.S. Rep. William Keating said Saturday after returning from a congressional delegation trip to Russia.
The Massachusetts Democrat, who met with Russian intelligence officials Thursday, said he was provided with details on how U.S. intelligence agents were warned in 2010 that Tsarnaev was preparing to join a terrorist cell in the southern Russian region of Dagestan, the Boston Globe reported.
Keating told reporters at Boston's Logan International Airport that a top Russian counterintelligence official told the delegation that "if we had the level of information sharing that we do now, then the bombings might have been avoided," according to the report.
He said he learned that information was sent from Russian officials to the U.S. government about Ibragim Todashev, a friend of Tsarnaev who was killed by an FBI agent in Florida on May 22 while being questioned in the bombing probe, the Boston Globe reported.
Keating told reporters he agrees with the assessment made by Russian officials on the marathon attack and expects to participate in FBI briefings on the Todashev killing.
On Friday, Keating told The Associated Press that Russian officials showed him a letter they sent to the FBI in March 2011, warning that Tsarnaev had plans to join insurgents in Chechnya.
Keating said the letter contained a lot of details about Tamerlan Tsarnaev, including his birthday, telephone number, cellphone number, where he lived in Cambridge and information about his wife and child. He said it also referenced the possibility that Tsarnaev might be considering changing names.
The Russians also had information about his mother, including her Skype address, Keating said.
Tsarnaev died following a shootout with police three days after the April 15 bombing. Authorities believe he carried out the attack with his brother Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who was captured alive and remains in custody.
Keating told the AP that the Russians believed Tsarnaev wanted to go to Palestine and engage in terrorist activities, but was unable to master the language.
“That was the level of detail they were providing in this letter,” Keating said.
FBI officials declined comment Friday.
After getting the March 2011 letter from the Russians, the agency did a cursory investigation and closed its assessment on Tsarnaev.
The April 15 Marathon explosions killed three people and injured more than 260.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/02/congressman-says-russia-shared-info-on-boston-bomber/?test=latestnews#ixzz2V8CokXdU
 

TSR

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Let's see, Russian intelligence officials believe...............Yawn ...

Could we have also prevented the world trade tower disasters had we listened to intelligence reports????
 

iwannabeacowboy

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TSR said:
Let's see, Russian intelligence officials believe...............Yawn ...

Could we have also prevented the world trade tower disasters had we listened to intelligence reports????


Yawn? People are murdered and you yawn?

The difference TSR, is that though you are misguided, most conservatives wouldn't yawn at your death, especially at the hand of terrorism.

I feel sorry for you. You are willing to make nothing out of murder so you don't have to admit the guy you supported was wrong in his actions. Wow.

Good luck with that.
 

Whitewing

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TSR said:
Let's see, Russian intelligence officials believe...............Yawn ...

Could we have also prevented the world trade tower disasters had we listened to intelligence reports????

How?? Please explain....and do note the specifics we could have acted upon. I might suggest you read the 9-11 Commission Report if you're feeling stumped.

Now, contrast "Osama bin Laden and al Queda are planning to carry out attacks against the US", with receiving a letter from Russian intelligence warning about Tamerlan Tsarnaev wanting to join a terror cell and providing his birthday, telephone number, cellphone number, where he lived in Cambridge and information about his wife and child.

But all that aside, the biggest difference between 9-11 and today is that was then, this is now. Billions of dollars that have been spent on beefing up security via supposed better communication and data sharing among government agencies, the expansion of government agencies that are supposed to protect America, the creation of new government agencies such as Homeland Security, the expansion of domestic spying, and countless other measures that infringe on the Constitutional rights of America's citizens.

And yet, with all that, the system is still failing, FAILING MISERABLY, which is the point of Mike's posts.

However, if it makes you feel better to give The King and his inept administration a pass (remember, they themselves have told us that they aren't responsible for anything because they know nothing about anything), then knock yourself out. It's what we here have come to expect from the left. Afterall, how many other options do you have? Show some principles and admit the failure? No, for most of the left it seems principles are as fleeting as a fart in a Montana blizzard.
 

Steve

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TSR said:
Let's see, Russian intelligence officials believe...............Yawn ...

Could we have also prevented the world trade tower disasters had we listened to intelligence reports????



yes... and that is why many Americans didn't complain when we spent a billion making homeland security a new department..

and we were wrong..


BTW if anyone had just granted a search warrant of a computer we had after taking one of the hijackers into custody.. it could have been prevented..

or enforced our immigration laws..

especially when one was ticked just prior to the attacks..

same as the recent Fort Hood attack.. if we had just acted on what we know...
 

Steve

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I wont give Bush a pass on this either..

n Aug. 6, 2001, President George W. Bush received a classified review of the threats posed by Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network, Al Qaeda. That morning’s “presidential daily brief” — the top-secret document prepared by America’s intelligence agencies — featured the now-infamous heading: “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” A few weeks later, on 9/11, Al Qaeda accomplished that goal.

On April 10, 2004, the Bush White House declassified that daily brief

we all know Clinton and Bush didn't see the whole picture, nor put it together despite 'warnings"





That same day in Chechnya, according to intelligence I reviewed, Ibn Al-Khattab, an extremist who was known for his brutality and his links to Al Qaeda, told his followers that there would soon be very big news. Within 48 hours, an intelligence official told me, that information was conveyed to the White House, providing more data supporting the C.I.A.’s warnings. Still, the alarm bells didn’t sound.

I guess Russia is feeling like we still care more about helping who is attacking them then we do about the real threats to US... even when they tried to warn US in two huge terror attacks on the US soil...

at least we should apologize to Russia publically
 

Tam

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TSR said:
Let's see, Russian intelligence officials believe...............Yawn ...

Could we have also prevented the world trade tower disasters had we listened to intelligence reports????

TSR do you realize blaming Bush AGAIN does not clear your hero Obama of the Scandals surrounding him? :? :roll:


Fort Hood Terrorist attack happened after the good doctor's Islamic rants were ignored by the Administration and Americans die and the liberals reactions is to YAWN as if they didn't matter.

Obama's White House leaks top secret info on the Bin Laden killing so Obama could spike the ball over his death and Americans died and the Liberals reaction is to cheer Obama and YAWN at the fact what was leaked resulted in Americans deaths as if they didn't matter.

Christmas Day Bomber Terrorist attack after the Obama Administration ignored the warning from the terrorist's own father and never put his son on a no fly zone LUCKILY NO AMERICANS DIE as the passengers stopped the attack NOT HOMELAND SECURITY. and the Liberals reaction is to YAWN.

Benghazi Terrorist Attack after Obama Administration denies requested added Security and Americans died. Obama lied for months to protect his Bin Laden is dead and Al Queade is on the Run campaign rhedoric and the Liberals reaction is to YAWN as if the four dead Americans didn't matter.

Boston Terrorist Attack after Obama Administration ignores Foreign countries warnings of these radicalized Islamic brothers and Americans die and the Liberals reaction is to YAWN.

IRS breaks the US laws by targeting people for their political beliefs that oppose Obama and the Liberals reactions is to YAWN.

The DOJ trashes the First Amendment and secretly seize media phone and email records of those reporters that oppose Obama's policies and the liberals reactions is to YAWN.

Since you seem to want to keep bringing up what Bush did or didn't do answer this TSR if Bush had done what Obama has done would you still be YAWNING, Or would you be wanting him IMPEACHED?

Obama is living in a DANGEROUS state of denial when it comes to the acts of those wanting to KILL AMERICANS IN THE NAME OF ISLAM. and anyone that stands in his way of promoting the idea that HE ENDED THE WAR ON TERRORISM is a target for HIS DOJ AND IRS.

Anytime a liberal calls these OBAMA scandal investigations "a Republican Witch hunt" or in your case just say YAWN. I would suggest they/you look Mrs. Smith in the eye and tell her to just drop the subject as she doesn't deserve to know why her only son died in Benghazi under Obama and Hillary's watch. And Please tell her she has no right to question why Hillary and Obama lied about a video to her face. Then go tell those that had their legs blown off in Boston that they don't deserve to know why the FBI and Homeland Security ignored the warnings and never investigated these two brothers actions after two foreign countries warned them.

Please TSR tell all those that have been hurt and the families of those KILLED under Obama because of his INCOMPETENCE, YAWN I dare you. :x
 

hypocritexposer

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Steve said:
I wont give Bush a pass on this either..

n Aug. 6, 2001, President George W. Bush received a classified review of the threats posed by Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network, Al Qaeda. That morning’s “presidential daily brief” — the top-secret document prepared by America’s intelligence agencies — featured the now-infamous heading: “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” A few weeks later, on 9/11, Al Qaeda accomplished that goal.

On April 10, 2004, the Bush White House declassified that daily brief

we all know Clinton and Bush didn't see the whole picture, nor put it together despite 'warnings"





That same day in Chechnya, according to intelligence I reviewed, Ibn Al-Khattab, an extremist who was known for his brutality and his links to Al Qaeda, told his followers that there would soon be very big news. Within 48 hours, an intelligence official told me, that information was conveyed to the White House, providing more data supporting the C.I.A.’s warnings. Still, the alarm bells didn’t sound.

I guess Russia is feeling like we still care more about helping who is attacking them then we do about the real threats to US... even when they tried to warn US in two huge terror attacks on the US soil...

at least we should apologize to Russia publically


So, obama inherited all his problems, yet Bush was expected to correct problems he was handed, a few short weeks before? Was he not given the same 10 years grace, obama has been given?
 

TSR

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iwannabeacowboy said:
TSR said:
Let's see, Russian intelligence officials believe...............Yawn ...

Could we have also prevented the world trade tower disasters had we listened to intelligence reports????


Yawn? People are murdered and you yawn?

The difference TSR, is that though you are misguided, most conservatives wouldn't yawn at your death, especially at the hand of terrorism.

I feel sorry for you. You are willing to make nothing out of murder so you don't have to admit the guy you supported was wrong in his actions. Wow.

Good luck with that.

Let me help you in comprehending my statements. I wasn't "yawning" at anyone's death-- all life is precious. The 3000 or so of the WTC, the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens, Afghans as well,our military losses. My yawning was for the Russian intel. I have trouble trusting them. And yes, not only pres. Obama but all presidents have to answer history for what happened during their tenure.
 

Whitewing

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TSR said:
iwannabeacowboy said:
TSR said:
Let's see, Russian intelligence officials believe...............Yawn ...

Could we have also prevented the world trade tower disasters had we listened to intelligence reports????


Yawn? People are murdered and you yawn?

The difference TSR, is that though you are misguided, most conservatives wouldn't yawn at your death, especially at the hand of terrorism.

I feel sorry for you. You are willing to make nothing out of murder so you don't have to admit the guy you supported was wrong in his actions. Wow.

Good luck with that.

Let me help you in comprehending my statements. I wasn't "yawning" at anyone's death-- all life is precious. The 3000 or so of the WTC, the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens, Afghans as well,our military losses. My yawning was for the Russian intel. I have trouble trusting them. And yes, not only pres. Obama but all presidents have to answer history for what happened during their tenure.

I'm still wondering what "actionable" intelligence Bush had in his possession that could have prevented the 9-11 attacks. Do you know of any? If so, please direct me to the information. I've read the entire Senate 9-11 Commission Report but couldn't find it in there.
 

Mike

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I'm still wondering what "actionable" intelligence Bush had in his possession that could have prevented the 9-11 attacks. Do you know of any? If so, please direct me to the information. I've read the entire Senate 9-11 Commission Report but couldn't find it in there.

This is ANOTHER one of those "They Did It Too" moments the liberals are so famous for.

They have nothing else to defend with and they throw this crap out everytime.

He really can't blame anything on Bush for the vague info presented to him.

He's just looking for some chit to throw against the wall hoping some will stick.....
 

Steve

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Whitewing said:
I'm still wondering what "actionable" intelligence Bush had in his possession that could have prevented the 9-11 attacks. Do you know of any? If so, please direct me to the information. I've read the entire Senate 9-11 Commission Report but couldn't find it in there.

Ironically.. Russia did warn US

We all know Clinton and Bush didn't see the whole picture, nor put it together despite 'warnings"


Quote:
That same day in Chechnya, according to intelligence I reviewed, Ibn Al-Khattab, an extremist who was known for his brutality and his links to Al Qaeda, told his followers that there would soon be very big news. Within 48 hours, an intelligence official told me, that information was conveyed to the White House, providing more data supporting the C.I.A.’s warnings. Still, the alarm bells didn’t sound.


I guess Russia is feeling like we still care more about helping who is attacking them then we do about the real threats to US... even when they tried to warn US in two huge terror attacks on the US soil...

at least we should apologize to Russia publically

Both Clinton and Bush had Russian intelligence warnings.. both ignored them... Clinton was given the warning,.. and Bush's team "reviewed' the old memos..

neither put the pieces together..

but then again,.. We had not had a serious terrorist attack on our soil yet... so it was considered a law enforcement issue..

Obama doesn't have that excuse...
 

Whitewing

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Steve, from what I recall reading about the intelligence gathering process, there are literally hundreds of pieces of information arriving daily re threats to the US and its interests around the globe. It's up to the experts to decipher the information and ultimately connect the dots. From there that information is passed along up the chain until it arrives where the buck stops (except for today, of course, as the buck never gets there).

Anyway, I don't doubt that both Clinton and Bush received all sorts of briefings about bin Laden, al Queda, etc and their desire to see the great satan attacked.

But I ask again, what piece of ACTIONABLE intelligence did either president have about a specific plot.....place, target, date, time, names, etc? Again, I've read the entire Senate 9-11 Report, several times and there is no smoking gun in the report.

There was lots of chatter, and it grew louder as 9-11 approached, but no one (outside of the hijackers and their handlers) knew what was about to happen. The biggest failure I saw (and that you mentioned) was the hijacker who was arrested beforehand but due to a judge's ruling, no one was able to look at data on his computer. From what I understand, there was enough info there to go a long way towards stopping the plot given enough time.

Our defenses failed on 9-11. Everyone has acknowledged that. But the point of this thread is that here we are today, a decade+ later, and it appears there are still huge gaps in the system.......a system that was supposed to have been fixed and improved with the billions spent since 9-11.
 

TSR

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Steve said:
Whitewing said:
I'm still wondering what "actionable" intelligence Bush had in his possession that could have prevented the 9-11 attacks. Do you know of any? If so, please direct me to the information. I've read the entire Senate 9-11 Commission Report but couldn't find it in there.

Ironically.. Russia did warn US

We all know Clinton and Bush didn't see the whole picture, nor put it together despite 'warnings"


Quote:
That same day in Chechnya, according to intelligence I reviewed, Ibn Al-Khattab, an extremist who was known for his brutality and his links to Al Qaeda, told his followers that there would soon be very big news. Within 48 hours, an intelligence official told me, that information was conveyed to the White House, providing more data supporting the C.I.A.’s warnings. Still, the alarm bells didn’t sound.


I guess Russia is feeling like we still care more about helping who is attacking them then we do about the real threats to US... even when they tried to warn US in two huge terror attacks on the US soil...

at least we should apologize to Russia publically

Both Clinton and Bush had Russian intelligence warnings.. both ignored them... Clinton was given the warning,.. and Bush's team "reviewed' the old memos..

neither put the pieces together..

but then again,.. We had not had a serious terrorist attack on our soil yet... so it was considered a law enforcement issue..

Obama doesn't have that excuse...

Well, If you can call it an excuse.
 
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