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RobertMac

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Bill said:
What changes did Presidents after Reagan make that changed the rules regarding beef trade between Canada and the US?

The change is that multi-national corporations are influencing trade rules for their benefit without concern for national security.
 
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Anonymous

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What changes did Presidents after Reagan make that changed the rules regarding beef trade between Canada and the US?

Absolutely nothing-- And that is where the problem lies...
 

Bill

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Oldtimer said:
What changes did Presidents after Reagan make that changed the rules regarding beef trade between Canada and the US?

Absolutely nothing-- And that is where the problem lies...
Don't worry OT we all knew that. Reagan signed the agreement that facilitated the expansion of the big packers into Canada. This was part of his vision of expanding US business. Then years later you hold these same packers to task for every problem imaginable felt by US prioducers yet hold Reagan up as a shining example of leadership. That's as narrow focussed as blaming all of the current problems in Iraq on the Bush boys when it was Reagan who helped put Saddam in power! Fortunately US Presidents since have tried to straighten that one out.

Like I said I think Reagan was a great President but I find it humerous how some pick and choose what they prefer to remember.

Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for almost all the economic growth in the United States.
Ronald Reagan
 
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Bill said:
Oldtimer said:
What changes did Presidents after Reagan make that changed the rules regarding beef trade between Canada and the US?

Absolutely nothing-- And that is where the problem lies...
Don't worry OT we all knew that. Reagan signed the agreement that facilitated the expansion of the big packers into Canada. This was part of his vision of expanding US business. Then years later you hold these same packers to task for every problem imaginable felt by US prioducers yet hold Reagan up as a shining example of leadership. That's as narrow focussed as blaming all of the current problems in Iraq on the Bush boys when it was Reagan who helped put Saddam in power! Fortunately US Presidents since have tried to straighten that one out.

Like I said I think Reagan was a great President but I find it humerous how some pick and choose what they prefer to remember.

Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for almost all the economic growth in the United States.
Ronald Reagan

When I say nothing-- I mean the last several administrations have done nothing to regulate Big business including the enforcement of the laws on the books to protect against monopolies, insider trading, overseas tax loopholes, etc...

GIPSA and the PSA are one of the best examples...Taking a loophole in the USDA rules and false labeling imported meat products as a US product is another...

The times have changed- the marketing has changed- but the rules have not changed to keep up with them...

And I'm not one of those that believe we can operate without regulation--no matter in what it is- everyday life or business...If that was true their wouldn't be hundreds of years of history of Judges and law enforcement...Lying, cheating, and theft have been around since the beginning of time- and aren't going to just disappear...In fact its much more complex now and it takes more and updated regulation to keep these honest persons/corporates honest......

Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for almost all the economic growth in the United States.
Ronald Reagan

The past 20 years of government and administrations policy have done nothing to assist Reagans statement continue to come true- just the opposite we are watching the death of small enterprise in the US as it moves toward the Tyson/Walmart multinational global concept....
 

mrj

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Oldtimer said:
Maxine - The simplest thing that could be changed in the checkoff law is that all funds collected on US beef/cattle be used to promote US beef- anything else could be used for generic beef ads or for beef and technical research....

Once I'd love to see a checkoff funded ad that said "Not Just Any Beef- USA Raised Beef- Ask for It"

If our competing countries are going to and already are advertising their product- and some are spending much more than $1/hd-- then the US should too......Its sad that it appears NCBA has no pride in their country or their product..... :cry:

As far as the posts on the NCBA's misuse of the checkoff funds- I don't buy your dumb act anymore- if you're truly that dumb or forgetful, you have my sympathy-- but I'm not going to waste my time reposting posts that have been on here many many times... I and many others posted numerous situations (which you quickly with your NCBA bias seem to forget- go back and research the archives Maxine- there are pages of situations)-- even Monte Reese admitted to me that it was a problem that he was afraid was going to get the checkoff into trouble...

Like I told him- I don't want my checkoff dollar used to buy ads or promotions that NCBA associates their name with, or sticks their logo on, or uses to promote themselves or recruit membership with... I do not want my dollars connected even indirectly to an organization that actively lobbies for and promotes lying, cheating and deceiving the US consumer just because they sold out to the packer mafias operating style of fraud....

He understood- because he said he has received complaints from others over the same thing- and sounded frustrated with the problems he was having reining in the NCBA.....But its kind of tough for the CEO when they run the board that hires and fires you...


OT, given your problem with accuracy on other issues re. CBB/Beef Checkoff abuse and NCBA issues, I can't accept your word that Monte R. said the things you attribute to him.

I do know that ALL Beef checkoff expenditures are checked by not only CBB, but are independently audited to assure the letter of the law is strictly observed.

Any expenditure outside the scope of the law and its rules and regulations WILL NOT be approved and WILL NOT be paid.

State funds above the required 50 cents voluntarily sent to the CBB for national programs are subject to the same restrictions.

You made the charges. It is up to you to prove them.

MRJ
 

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