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What freedoms have YOU lost?

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Tell me, what freedoms have you lost in the past 5 months?


It's certainly not Freedom of Speech.....

You still got your guns and so do I

You still can vote

What?????....Name them as I can't think of a one...not a single one.
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
23 planned nuke units are on hold now. NuBuild has had its throat cut. COLA's only went to a chosen few.

Just google Obama Nuclear Power and pick which ones you'd like to read.

The domestic petro industry shut down is affecting a lot of neighbors and the community. There is a lot less nickels floating around but that is a good thing; we are not having as many folks move in who don't like our country culture.
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
backhoeboogie said:
23 planned nuke units are on hold now. NuBuild has had its throat cut. COLA's only went to a chosen few.

Just google Obama Nuclear Power and pick which ones you'd like to read.

The domestic petro industry shut down is affecting a lot of neighbors and the community. There is a lot less nickels floating around but that is a good thing; we are not having as many folks move in who don't like our country culture.


Nuke's have been on hold for about 30 yrs now. So that doesn't really qualify.

The ' lack of nickles' would have happened no matter who became the Pres.

So see, keeping the move ins...out...is a good thing then.


Maybe I should rephrase the question.


What freedoms have YOU lost as it seems that people are complaining about loosing personal freedoms and I just don't see it.
 

Mike

Well-known member
Kola wrote:
You still can vote

Yes, and so can illegal immigrants, felons, and many, many dead people.

Here is one small example:
Las Vegas ACORN office raided in voter-fraud probe
By OSKAR GARCIA Associated Press
Oct. 7, 2008, 11:17PM
LAS VEGAS — Nevada authorities seized records Tuesday from a group they accused of submitting fraudulent voter-registration forms — including for the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys.

"Tony Romo is not registered to vote in the state of Nevada, and anybody trying to pose as Terrell Owens won't be able to cast a ballot on Nov. 4," said Secretary of State Ross Miller, referring to star players on the pro football team.

State authorities raided the headquarters of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a group that works to register low-income people.

Miller said the raid was part of a monthslong investigation, and he contended the group had submitted registration forms that used false information or duplicated information on multiple forms. He did not estimate how many.


According to its national Web site, Acorn has registered 1.3 million people nationwide for the Nov. 4 election. It has encountered complaints of fraud stemming from registration efforts in Wisconsin, North Carolina, New Mexico, Michigan, Ohio and Missouri.
How many slipped through the cracks?

You can thank your blessed "Community Organizer". :roll:
 

MsSage

Well-known member
It's simply un-American and unconstitutional to impede, harass, threaten or persecute anyone who is guilty of nothing more than sharing his opinion
Impede.... to interfere with or slow the progress of

Shreveprt, La Highway 20 from city limits to city limits. I had 3 police officers follow and come up to my door and watch me. All 3 were with me the entire way. I was not speeding or driving reckless. yes at one point they did slow me down to 20 mph. I was waiting on them to pull me but they didnt, not sure why. Speed limit on Hywy 20 is 55 mph I was doing 50.
My crime? LOL I have a a couple bumper stickers....one that says the founding fathers were right wing extremist, an NRA, and a picture of Ronal Regan saying my heros have always been cowboy OHHHHH and I have Utah plates.....hmmmmmm Dont try to say out of state plates I saw way too many and not one was even looked at by the police.
That is my personal experience do you really want more from others who were stopped and arrested then no charges filed. How about being stopped and cars searched.

LOL funny thing right at the Texas line I was flipped off by a car full of blacks which had a obama sticker on their car :D :D
Pissed them off when I smiled and waved back :wink:
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Nuke's have been on hold for about 30 yrs now. So that doesn't really qualify.

Yeah well there have been no new ones planned for 30 years until the new COLA Policy came out. My freedom was the choice to move to just about anywhere for more nickels that I currently earn.

If you really really want me to get down into the bug dust on everything else, I could. It is not worth the argument in my opinion. Mostly I just replied with issues that are near and dear that have changed under Obama

Hannity has likely already covered eveything else anyway. No need to argue about it all. Rush has likely cried about it all too but I don't listen to him except when they are clips of him on regular radio.
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Just as I thought....NONE of you can name ONE freedom YOU have lost in the last 5 months.

To keep more of my money now and in the future!

The Freedom to retire sooner not later!
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
Just as I thought....NONE of you can name ONE freedom YOU have lost in the last 5 months.

To keep more of my money now and in the future!

The Freedom to retire sooner not later!

Retirement:
That's not a Freedom...that's a option totally dependent upon you and your ability to manage your life.


Keep your Money:
So you are wanting to do away with taxes then? The Freedom NOT to pay taxes.
You want to loose amublance, fire service etc and drive on unpaved roads and have school systems even MORE lacking than they already are?
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Let's make this easier as you guys have no sense of your lawful RIGHTS as opposed to your personal CHOICES.



In the Bill of Rights....have YOU lost any of those in the 5 months due to the Obama Admn.?




http://www.ushistory.org/documents/amendments.htm


Here's a link to refresh your memory
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Keep your Money:
So you are wanting to do away with taxes then? The Freedom NOT to pay taxes.
You want to loose amublance, fire service etc and drive on unpaved roads and have school systems even MORE lacking than they already are?

No do not want to do away with them, just do not want more taken from me. You said since Obama took office, and since Obama took office I have had more taken from me and projected to be worse in future. And the money I get to keep is a Freedom, the Freedom to do with my money as I chose not as Obama chooses!

Freedom to not be in debt, I choose not to have credit cards, I choose to have limited debt. But as an American Obama has now put me deeper in debt for his personal social agenda.

And he has taken away the Freedom of my children, they are already in debt even at the age of 11. Talk about enslaving someone and taking away their Freedom of future choice!
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
Keep your Money:
So you are wanting to do away with taxes then? The Freedom NOT to pay taxes.
You want to loose amublance, fire service etc and drive on unpaved roads and have school systems even MORE lacking than they already are?

No do not want to do away with them, just do not want more taken from me. You said since Obama took office, and since Obama took office I have had more taken from me and projected to be worse in future. And the money I get to keep is a Freedom, the Freedom to do with my money as I chose not as Obama chooses!

Freedom to not be in debt, I choose not to have credit cards, I choose to have limited debt. But as an American Obama has now put me deeper in debt for his personal social agenda.

And he has taken away the Freedom of my children, they are already in debt even at the age of 11. Talk about enslaving someone and taking away their Freedom of future choice!


So you think that on Jan 19th your kids DID NOT owe their future part of the national debt?


You think that all this debt hit on Jan 20th?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


No wonder you're broke
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
Keep your Money:
So you are wanting to do away with taxes then? The Freedom NOT to pay taxes.
You want to loose amublance, fire service etc and drive on unpaved roads and have school systems even MORE lacking than they already are?

No do not want to do away with them, just do not want more taken from me. You said since Obama took office, and since Obama took office I have had more taken from me and projected to be worse in future. And the money I get to keep is a Freedom, the Freedom to do with my money as I chose not as Obama chooses!

Freedom to not be in debt, I choose not to have credit cards, I choose to have limited debt. But as an American Obama has now put me deeper in debt for his personal social agenda.

And he has taken away the Freedom of my children, they are already in debt even at the age of 11. Talk about enslaving someone and taking away their Freedom of future choice!


So you think that on Jan 19th your kids DID NOT owe their future part of the national debt?


You think that all this debt hit on Jan 20th?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


No wonder you're broke

They did not owe as much. And by spending more than all Presidents combined he has done in 5 months what it took hundreds of years for past Presidents to do. If you do not think that is taking Freedom away from me and my kids you are crazy!
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Let's make this easier as you guys have no sense of your lawful RIGHTS as opposed to your personal CHOICES.



In the Bill of Rights....have YOU lost any of those in the 5 months due to the Obama Admn.?




http://www.ushistory.org/documents/amendments.htm


Here's a link to refresh your memory

Maybe before bragging too much on Maobama, you ought to look at rights we would of lost had bills that he voted for been passed.
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
kolanuraven said:
Let's make this easier as you guys have no sense of your lawful RIGHTS as opposed to your personal CHOICES.



In the Bill of Rights....have YOU lost any of those in the 5 months due to the Obama Admn.?




http://www.ushistory.org/documents/amendments.htm


Here's a link to refresh your memory

Maybe before bragging too much on Maobama, you ought to look at rights we would of lost had bills that he voted for been passed.


Maybe later...I'm not braggin on anyone. I'm just asking for ya'll to show me these Freedoms that you keep saying you have been robbed of to date.


So, what's your findings or are you just gonna stamp you foot and go around the question?
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
I don't know that I've lost any freedoms yet, but I do know that, as evidenced by Obama's voting record (in those rare instances where he voted something other than "present"), many freedoms need to be put on red alert. The man is not big on personal freedoms or responsibilities, but then again, show me a socialist that is.
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
MsSage said:
It's simply un-American and unconstitutional to impede, harass, threaten or persecute anyone who is guilty of nothing more than sharing his opinion
Impede.... to interfere with or slow the progress of

Shreveprt, La Highway 20 from city limits to city limits. I had 3 police officers follow and come up to my door and watch me. All 3 were with me the entire way. I was not speeding or driving reckless. yes at one point they did slow me down to 20 mph. I was waiting on them to pull me but they didnt, not sure why. Speed limit on Hywy 20 is 55 mph I was doing 50.
My crime? LOL I have a a couple bumper stickers....one that says the founding fathers were right wing extremist, an NRA, and a picture of Ronal Regan saying my heros have always been cowboy OHHHHH and I have Utah plates.....hmmmmmm Dont try to say out of state plates I saw way too many and not one was even looked at by the police.
That is my personal experience do you really want more from others who were stopped and arrested then no charges filed. How about being stopped and cars searched.

LOL funny thing right at the Texas line I was flipped off by a car full of blacks which had a obama sticker on their car :D :D
p****d them off when I smiled and waved back :wink:


People were prob slowing down to read them stupid stickers......but still doesn't answer my question.
 

Mrs.Greg

Well-known member
Big Muddy rancher said:
To cross the border with out a passport.
BMR...to fly into the US was instated Jan 1 /08,then it was supposed to be July 1 /08 for driving across the border but was changed to this yr...June 1/09 I believe because of the long waiting lines for passports. In reality this was started long before Obama became president.

I also don't think its a freedom to pass into another country without a passport.It should be earned,having to show a passport coming and going from my country to another gives me comfort,which I imagine the US residents also feel... :)
 
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