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WHAT HAPPENED TO SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND POLITICS

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Anonymous

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I THOUGHT CHURCHES WERE FORBIDDEN FROM THIS UNDER THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS.


Warm greeting for Pelosi at San Francisco church
By JOHN S. MARSHALL, Associated Press Writer

Sunday, March 28, 2010




Speaker Nancy Pelosi hugs the Rev. Cecil Williams of Glide Memorial United Methodist Church after he introduced her Sunday.

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(03-28) 15:12 PDT San Francisco, CA (AP) --

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Sunday returned to her home district, where she celebrated the passage of a national health care bill with an appearance at a San Francisco church.

Speaking at the Glide Memorial United Methodist Church, the Democrat told an enthusiastic crowd of about 750 worshippers that the legislation's passage will make health care affordable for the middle class and eventually provide coverage for millions of uninsured Americans.

"We're celebrating really something that is historic, in terms of sitting right up there with Social Security, Medicare and the Civil Rights Act," Pelosi said as the hometown crowd stood and cheered.

Pelosi's address was her first public appearance in her home district since Congressional Democrats on Friday sent the final piece of legislation to President Barack Obama. The president is expected to sign the bill Tuesday.

The signing of the bill into law will end a long chapter in what has been a wrenching national debate over how to overhaul America's health care system.

Republicans, including House GOP leader John Boehner, bitterly opposed the overhaul to the end, arguing the bill would be bad for business and hurt the struggling U.S. economy. The Ohio congressman described the bill as a "grim moment for millions."

During her address Sunday, Pelosi said not only would the measure provide health care for millions of uninsured Americans, it would help stimulate the economy by being a "job creator."

She also downplayed concerns that some of her fellow Democrats would be more vulnerable to losing to Republicans when Americans vote in midterm elections this fall.

The church where Pelosi spoke is known for providing meals, health care and other social services to the jobless and homeless.



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Tam

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Awhile back Obama attended a Church and also stood up and did one of his campaign style speeches so I guess if you are a Dem, you can't be seperated from campaigning even in a Church. :wink: :roll:
 

Tam

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Silver said:
I think it's wrong no matter who does it. Church and state need to be separate.

Tell the left that they are the ones wanting them seperate but it is also them that will use any venue to push their agenda. :wink: Do as I Say Not As I Do.
 

Silver

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Tam said:
Silver said:
I think it's wrong no matter who does it. Church and state need to be separate.

Tell the left that they are the ones wanting them seperate but it is also them that will use any venue to push their agenda. :wink: Do as I Say Not As I Do.

Tell them yourself
 

Tam

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Silver said:
Tam said:
Silver said:
I think it's wrong no matter who does it. Church and state need to be separate.

Tell the left that they are the ones wanting them seperate but it is also them that will use any venue to push their agenda. :wink: Do as I Say Not As I Do.

Tell them yourself

Haven't you learned yet they don't care what people say once the voting is done. Once they are in POWER, it is all about them and nothing about the voters until they are needed again in 4 years. :wink:
 

Tam

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redrobin said:
Silver said:
I think it's wrong no matter who does it. Church and state need to be separate.
Why? I have no problem with pelosi speaking in a church.

I have to wonder if she has ever stood up in her Catholic Church and explained her stand on legal government funded ABORTIONS. :? :wink:
 

jingo2

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Tam said:
Awhile back Obama attended a Church and also stood up and did one of his campaign style speeches so I guess if you are a Dem, you can't be seperated from campaigning even in a Church. :wink: :roll:

Remember, he's musliim.....so he'd not be in a church.

:roll: :roll: :roll:
 

Tam

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jingo2 said:
Tam said:
Awhile back Obama attended a Church and also stood up and did one of his campaign style speeches so I guess if you are a Dem, you can't be seperated from campaigning even in a Church. :wink: :roll:

Remember, he's musliim.....so he'd not be in a church.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Funny you should bring up him not being in a church. The other day he announce he is not going to join a Church because of security issues. Seems he is worried about security issues when it comes to church but not on the hundreds of Campaign style trips he has taken since winning the election. :? If it is that he might interrupt the service I find it funny that he is worried about that when he wasn't concerned about what time he woke up a Foreign leader and all those band members and soldiers in Afghanistan the other night when he just had to visit the troops!!!! :wink:
:roll:

BTW Obama would go anywhere he had to to get a vote even a Church. But now that he is in the White House no need to keep up the lie. :wink:
 

jingo2

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Tam said:
jingo2 said:
Tam said:
Awhile back Obama attended a Church and also stood up and did one of his campaign style speeches so I guess if you are a Dem, you can't be seperated from campaigning even in a Church. :wink: :roll:

Remember, he's musliim.....so he'd not be in a church.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Funny you should bring up him not being in a church. The other day he announce he is not going to join a Church because of security issues. Seems he is worried about security issues when it comes to church but not on the hundreds of Campaign style trips he has taken since winning the election. :? If it is that he might interrupt the service I find it funny that he is worried about that when he wasn't concerned about what time he woke up a Foreign leader and all those band members and soldiers in Afghanistan the other night when he just had to visit the troops!!!! :wink:
:roll:

BTW Obama would go anywhere he had to to get a vote even a Church. But now that he is in the White House no need to keep up the lie. :wink:

What?

You are kinda rambling on there.......
 

jingo2

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jingo2 said:
Tam said:
jingo2 said:
Remember, he's musliim.....so he'd not be in a church.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Funny you should bring up him not being in a church. The other day he announce he is not going to join a Church because of security issues. Seems he is worried about security issues when it comes to church but not on the hundreds of Campaign style trips he has taken since winning the election. :? If it is that he might interrupt the service I find it funny that he is worried about that when he wasn't concerned about what time he woke up a Foreign leader and all those band members and soldiers in Afghanistan the other night when he just had to visit the troops!!!! :wink:
:roll:

BTW Obama would go anywhere he had to to get a vote even a Church. But now that he is in the White House no need to keep up the lie. :wink:

What?

You are kinda rambling on there.......


Wait a minute....are you comparing this to Steele and the RNC going to the strip club??? Paying for it with RNC funds?????

Is that it?
 
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jingo2 said:
jingo2 said:
Tam said:
Funny you should bring up him not being in a church. The other day he announce he is not going to join a Church because of security issues. Seems he is worried about security issues when it comes to church but not on the hundreds of Campaign style trips he has taken since winning the election. :? If it is that he might interrupt the service I find it funny that he is worried about that when he wasn't concerned about what time he woke up a Foreign leader and all those band members and soldiers in Afghanistan the other night when he just had to visit the troops!!!! :wink:
:roll:

BTW Obama would go anywhere he had to to get a vote even a Church. But now that he is in the White House no need to keep up the lie. :wink:

What?

You are kinda rambling on there.......


Wait a minute....are you comparing this to Steele and the RNC going to the strip club??? Paying for it with RNC funds?????

Is that it?

Oh- thats all hunky dorry now...Been blessed over by Father O'Reilly- as now that they got caught--he's going to pick up the bill... :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Mike said:
Ya'll need to check your facts....Steele was at the Strip Club?

I thought Steele was still the annointed and chosen Champion of the selfproclaimed keepers of virtue that put themselves out to be members of the Republican party ?


'Strippergate' Fuels RNC 'Insurgency' Against Steele
Tuesday, 30 Mar 2010 07:53 PM Article Font Size
By: David A. Patten

Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele must answer to GOP donors angry that the committee paid a $1,946 RNC tab at a bondage-themed stripper club, at the same time he faces a growing insurgency seeking to remove him.

Mark DeMoss, founder of The DeMoss Group public relations firm in Atlanta, who served as Christian-community liaison for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's 2008 campaign, is one major GOP donor who already has announced he will no longer be writing checks to the RNC.

"How does the Republican Party, with credibility today, attack the Democrats and President Obama for reckless spending of taxpayer money, when we're apparently guilty of reckless spending of our own donors' money?" DeMoss asks Newsmax. "I think we've squandered any kind of moral authority on an economic principle that used to be fundamental to the Republican Party."


RNC officials say Steele was aboard a jetliner returning from the GOP's winter meeting in Hawaii when the tab at the Voyeur club in West Hollywood, Calif., was rung up. The RNC has acknowledged reimbursing the cost of the exotic club, incurred after an official RNC event in Los Angeles involving up-and-coming "Young Eagle" donors, according to the Los Angeles Times, .

RNC officials say the expense was unauthorized, inappropriate, and not a part of any RNC-sanctioned event. The item slipped through the normal accounting-review process, the RNC says, adding that the staffer who submitted the expense for reimbursement has been fired.

Newsmax contacted the RNC for comment Tuesday afternoon. There was no immediate response.

The backlash over what has been dubbed "strippergate" in the blogosphere is just the latest controversy to hit the organization. In February, reports emerged that the RNC spent $17,500 on private-jet travel, $15,000 on limousines, and more than $30,000 on five-star hotels.

"That's what's disconcerting to me about seeing these limousine bills and chartered jet bills and hotel bills," DeMoss tells Newsmax. "It suggests that we don't have any more restraint than those we often attack or criticize for spending. Families had to cut back, businesses cut back, and then you read that our Republican National Committee apparently didn't cut back on anything. It's a double standard, it's irresponsible."
 

Tam

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jingo2 said:
jingo2 said:
Tam said:
Funny you should bring up him not being in a church. The other day he announce he is not going to join a Church because of security issues. Seems he is worried about security issues when it comes to church but not on the hundreds of Campaign style trips he has taken since winning the election. :? If it is that he might interrupt the service I find it funny that he is worried about that when he wasn't concerned about what time he woke up a Foreign leader and all those band members and soldiers in Afghanistan the other night when he just had to visit the troops!!!! :wink:
:roll:

BTW Obama would go anywhere he had to to get a vote even a Church. But now that he is in the White House no need to keep up the lie. :wink:

What?

You are kinda rambling on there.......


Wait a minute....are you comparing this to Steele and the RNC going to the strip club??? Paying for it with RNC funds?????

Is that it?

No I wasn't rambling JUST explaining why I doubt his reasoning for not choosing a church. Seems the only time he is worried about security is when he is sitting in a church.

And I have said nothing about Steele but can you bring a credible source that says he was at a strip club? If so we'll discuss it but from what I heard Steele was not the one there and the RNC person that was was fired from her job. But if you have facts that prove otherwise bring them if not stop distracting the topic with garbage. :wink:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
jingo2 said:
jingo2 said:
What?

You are kinda rambling on there.......


Wait a minute....are you comparing this to Steele and the RNC going to the strip club??? Paying for it with RNC funds?????

Is that it?

Oh- thats all hunky dorry now...Been blessed over by Father O'Reilly- as now that they got caught--he's going to pick up the bill... :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The only bill I've heard of that ORiely has agree to pick up lately is the legal fees of a group that thinks it is OK to throw a hate protest at the funeral of a US soldier. I guess ORielly is a slug for helping out the father of a soldier that paid the ulimate cost for your freaking freedoms so he doesn't have to pay them. :roll: You have hit a new low Oldtimer I didn't think it was possible but You Have done it again. :roll:
 
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As far as Church and State-- have you all forgot about Rev Dobson- and Focus on the Family--- or Pat Robertson and the Christian Coalition-- or Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority- or the dozens more right wing Christian political groups-- all political movement groups known as the Christian right and the Religious right-- and out and out endorsing and campaigning for candidates and issues- while at least some operate as- and hide behind the tax-exempt non-profit organization status :(

Pelosi giving a talk in a California church doesn't even come close :roll: :lol:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
As far as Church and State-- have you all forgot about Rev Dobson- and Focus on the Family--- or Pat Robertson and the Christian Coalition-- or Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority- or the dozens more right wing Christian political groups-- all political movement groups known as the Christian right and the Religious right-- and out and out endorsing and campaigning for candidates and issues- while at least some operate as- and hide behind the tax-exempt non-profit organization status :(

Pelosi giving a talk in a California church doesn't even come close :roll: :lol:

Oldtimer why don't you ask the Pope what he thinks of Pelosi's political stand when she claims to be a strong practicing CATHOLIC. And is speaking in a CATHOLIC CHURCH about the Health Care bill that she supported being written to INCLUDE FEDERAL FUNDING OF ABORTIONS.
 

Mike

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Nothing wrong with a preacher endorsing a candidate...........

Has nothing whatsoever to do with the Separation of Church and State either.
That would fall under the first amendment.
 
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