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What happens when one gets dependant on gov

Larrry

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I do feel for these people but running out of food in three days, wheres the preparation. I guess living in the rural areas make you prepare a little better and I will say it is harder to stockpile necessities in an urban area. I hope they get through this thing.

‘We Need Food, We Need Clothing’: Staten Island Residents Plead for Help 3 Days After Sandy

The residents of Staten Island are pleading for help from elected officials, begging for gasoline, food and clothing three days after Sandy slammed the New York City borough.

“We’re going to die! We’re going to freeze! We got 90-year-old people!” Donna Solli told visiting officials. “You don’t understand. You gotta get your trucks down here on the corner now. It’s been three days!”

Staten Island was one of the hardest-hit communities in New York City. More than 80,000 residents are still without power. Many are homeless, and at least 19 people died on Staten Island because of the storm.

One of the devastated neighborhoods was overwhelmed by a violent surge of water. Residents described a super-sized wave as high as 20 feet, with water rushing into the streets like rapids.

Staten Island resident Mike Abuzzio’s home is completely gone, with only his floor boards remaining. He, his wife and their two young daughters have been staying with relatives.

“My youngest daughter yesterday said, ‘Daddy, I want to go,’” Abuzzio told ABC News. “I told her, ‘It’s going to be awhile, hon.’ She doesn’t understand. She’s 6.”

In the rubble that was once his home, Abuzzio found one clean, intact plate of Christmas china. He said that plate will be special at Christmastime and will be used specifically for his mother’s cookies.

For 48 hours after the storm, search teams were hunting for two Staten Island brothers, just 2- and 4-years-old. They were swept out of their mother’s arms when waves caused by storm surges crashed into the family’s SUV. Their small bodies were found today at the end of a dead-end street. Their parents were at the scene where the bodies were discovered.

Staten Island officials sounded increasingly desperate today, asking when supplies will arrive. They blasted the Red Cross for not being there when it counted.

“This is America, not a third world nation. We need food, we need clothing,” Staten Island Borough President Jim Molinaro said today. “My advice to the people of Staten Island is: Don’t donate the American Red Cross. Put their money elsewhere.”

The Red Cross and the National Guard arrived in the area late Tuesday and are distributing food, water and gas – and city officials say things are much better.

Molinaro urged New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg Wednesday to cancel Sunday’s New York City Marathon. The race’s staging area is on Staten Island and Molinaro said it would be “crazy, asinine,” to have the race after what has happened.

“My God. What we have here is terrible, a disaster,” Molinaro said Wednesday. “If they want to race, let them race with themselves. This is no time for a parade. A marathon is a parade. Now is the time to put your shoulder to the wheel. If they want to prepare for something, let them prepare for the election, not a marathon.”

“Do you realize how many police officers you need for a marathon?” he asked. “There are people looting stores on Midland Avenue. There is looting taking place in the homes on the South Shore that were destroyed. That is where we need the police.”
 
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Anonymous

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TSR said:
Seems like Chris Christie and president Obama have bonded. :shock:

Chris Christies response to the FAUX NEWS bunch that wanted a Romney endorsement and political promotion during the middle of a disaster left them completely wordless (actually left one looking like he swallowed a turd for asking the stupid partisan question)-- and took Christie up several notchs in my view of him...

.Chris Christie tells FOX that relief efforts in NJ are “much bigger than presidential politics”


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The morning after Sandy struck the East Coast, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie was not about to get involved in any politically charged games.

While providing FOX and Friends with an update on Hurricane Sandy, Christie, one of many Romney/Ryan surrogates, was asked about the possibility of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney coming to tour the affected area with the governor. Christie was pretty blunt in his answer, when he said:

“I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested. I have a job to do here in New Jersey that is much bigger than presidential politics. And I could care less about any of that stuff. I have a job to do. I’ve got 2.4 million people out of power. I’ve got devastation on the shore. I’ve got floods in the Northern parts of my state. If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics, then you don’t know me.”



Later on in the segment, Christie was also asked about the assistance he has been receiving from President Barack Obama. Christie did not hesitate before launching into his answer, praising President Obama:

“I spoke to the president three time yesterday. He called me for the last time at midnight last night, asking what he could do. I said if he could expedite designating New Jersey as a major disaster area that that would help us get federal money and resources in here as quickly as possible to clean up the damage here. President was great last night. He said he would get it done. At 2 a.m., I got a call from FEMA to answer a couple final questions and then he signed the declaration this morning. So I have to give president great credit. He has been on the phone with three times in the last 24 hours. He has been attentive and anything I have asked for, he has gotten to me. So I thank the president publicly for that, he has done, as far as I am concerned, a great job for Jersey.”


Christie also shared his views with his Twitter followers when around 12 p.m. ET, he tweeted: “I don’t give a damn about Election Day after what has happened here. I am worried about the people of New Jersey. #Sandy.” About an hour later, in another tweet, he once again mentioned working with president on cleanup efforts in New Jersey: “On conf call with POTUS discussing post-Sandy cleanup efforts in partnership with the feds. He is instructing Gov’t to lean forward to help.””

Hard to believe- a major political office holder that actually puts his responsibility and the people he serves above partisan politics :shock: :???: :D :D

ATTA- BOY OBAMA for cutting thru the bureaucracy-- and an ATTA BOY CHRISTIE on recognizing leadership and not making it partisan... :clap:
 

hypocritexposer

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It took obathis long to declare areas a "major disaster area"

That's his only responsibility in cases like this and it took him 3 days? And OT thinks this is leadership?

Reminds me of Bush and Katrina.
 

Larrry

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The funny part of obama the last few daysa is the media and the leftwingernuts are all gushy over obama acting Presidential. Isn't that what the fool should have been doing the last 1000 plus days. If he had been acting presidential all that time you wouldn't have gotten all tingly up your leg over his Sandy response.
 

TSR

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Oldtimer said:
TSR said:
Seems like Chris Christie and president Obama have bonded. :shock:

Chris Christies response to the FAUX NEWS bunch that wanted a Romney endorsement and political promotion during the middle of a disaster left them completely wordless (actually left one looking like he swallowed a turd for asking the stupid partisan question)-- and took Christie up several notchs in my view of him...

.Chris Christie tells FOX that relief efforts in NJ are “much bigger than presidential politics”


Wednesday, October 31, 2012 CommentsComments(1)Comments(1)
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The morning after Sandy struck the East Coast, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie was not about to get involved in any politically charged games.

While providing FOX and Friends with an update on Hurricane Sandy, Christie, one of many Romney/Ryan surrogates, was asked about the possibility of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney coming to tour the affected area with the governor. Christie was pretty blunt in his answer, when he said:

“I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested. I have a job to do here in New Jersey that is much bigger than presidential politics. And I could care less about any of that stuff. I have a job to do. I’ve got 2.4 million people out of power. I’ve got devastation on the shore. I’ve got floods in the Northern parts of my state. If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics, then you don’t know me.”



Later on in the segment, Christie was also asked about the assistance he has been receiving from President Barack Obama. Christie did not hesitate before launching into his answer, praising President Obama:

“I spoke to the president three time yesterday. He called me for the last time at midnight last night, asking what he could do. I said if he could expedite designating New Jersey as a major disaster area that that would help us get federal money and resources in here as quickly as possible to clean up the damage here. President was great last night. He said he would get it done. At 2 a.m., I got a call from FEMA to answer a couple final questions and then he signed the declaration this morning. So I have to give president great credit. He has been on the phone with three times in the last 24 hours. He has been attentive and anything I have asked for, he has gotten to me. So I thank the president publicly for that, he has done, as far as I am concerned, a great job for Jersey.”


Christie also shared his views with his Twitter followers when around 12 p.m. ET, he tweeted: “I don’t give a damn about Election Day after what has happened here. I am worried about the people of New Jersey. #Sandy.” About an hour later, in another tweet, he once again mentioned working with president on cleanup efforts in New Jersey: “On conf call with POTUS discussing post-Sandy cleanup efforts in partnership with the feds. He is instructing Gov’t to lean forward to help.””

Hard to believe- a major political office holder that actually puts his responsibility and the people he serves above partisan politics :shock: :???: :D :D

ATTA- BOY OBAMA for cutting thru the bureaucracy-- and an ATTA BOY CHRISTIE on recognizing leadership and not making it partisan... :clap:

Yeah President Obama and Gov. Christie are to be commended. although I think Gov. Christie may have limited his future appearances on Faux News.
 

Faster horses

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Too bad Obama didn't respond that fast to the cries for help from the Americans at Behnghazi.

He responded to Chris Christie in only 3 days? That has to be a record for him!!
 

okfarmer

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Christie has a chance to look big in the eyes of his voters and the nation, and he is going to try because of the wave hw can ride. Nothing new for either politician.

It is sad people can't survive 3 days without federal help. It is a national security issue. Dependence is dangerous.

Maybe something good can come from this. Maybe a better perspective.
 

gmacbeef

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Oldtimer said:
TSR said:
Seems like Chris Christie and president Obama have bonded. :shock:

Chris Christies response to the FAUX NEWS bunch that wanted a Romney endorsement and political promotion during the middle of a disaster left them completely wordless (actually left one looking like he swallowed a turd for asking the stupid partisan question)-- and took Christie up several notchs in my view of him...

.Chris Christie tells FOX that relief efforts in NJ are “much bigger than presidential politics”


Wednesday, October 31, 2012 CommentsComments(1)Comments(1)
| E-mail| Print

The morning after Sandy struck the East Coast, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie was not about to get involved in any politically charged games.

While providing FOX and Friends with an update on Hurricane Sandy, Christie, one of many Romney/Ryan surrogates, was asked about the possibility of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney coming to tour the affected area with the governor. Christie was pretty blunt in his answer, when he said:

“I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested. I have a job to do here in New Jersey that is much bigger than presidential politics. And I could care less about any of that stuff. I have a job to do. I’ve got 2.4 million people out of power. I’ve got devastation on the shore. I’ve got floods in the Northern parts of my state. If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics, then you don’t know me.”



Later on in the segment, Christie was also asked about the assistance he has been receiving from President Barack Obama. Christie did not hesitate before launching into his answer, praising President Obama:

“I spoke to the president three time yesterday. He called me for the last time at midnight last night, asking what he could do. I said if he could expedite designating New Jersey as a major disaster area that that would help us get federal money and resources in here as quickly as possible to clean up the damage here. President was great last night. He said he would get it done. At 2 a.m., I got a call from FEMA to answer a couple final questions and then he signed the declaration this morning. So I have to give president great credit. He has been on the phone with three times in the last 24 hours. He has been attentive and anything I have asked for, he has gotten to me. So I thank the president publicly for that, he has done, as far as I am concerned, a great job for Jersey.”


Christie also shared his views with his Twitter followers when around 12 p.m. ET, he tweeted: “I don’t give a damn about Election Day after what has happened here. I am worried about the people of New Jersey. #Sandy.” About an hour later, in another tweet, he once again mentioned working with president on cleanup efforts in New Jersey: “On conf call with POTUS discussing post-Sandy cleanup efforts in partnership with the feds. He is instructing Gov’t to lean forward to help.””

Hard to believe- a major political office holder that actually puts his responsibility and the people he serves above partisan politics :shock: :???: :D :D

ATTA- BOY OBAMA for cutting thru the bureaucracy-- and an ATTA BOY CHRISTIE on recognizing leadership and not making it partisan... :clap:

The only thing that needs cutting through is Obameas B.S. WATCH THE NEWS, It's a Fricken Disaster in the Northeast ! No Food No GAS No Help ! Oblamea got his "photo'-op" & left town to Campaign. He does not give a DAMN about those people! This is Oblames KATRINA ! Did George bush leave town ? He would be getting CRUCIFIED if he was still in office. I hope this screws Oblamea, big time !Open your Liberal eyes old man !!!!!!!!!!!!
 

James T

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Bush DID get crucified!!! He sat on his a$$ while the Superdome filled full of human excrement. I liked him otherwise but he really screwed up on his response to Katrina.
 

Larrry

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The Superdome was doomed from the minute they opened the doorsa to let people in. You just had to watch the people filing in to see that.
 

James T

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I read you loud and clear Larry!! But, Bush's response time seriously sucked. If he would have been a hell of a lot faster we, in Texas, would not have inherited half the population of that Superdome.
 

Mike

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James T said:
Bush DID get crucified!!! He sat on his a$$ while the Superdome filled full of human excrement. I liked him otherwise but he really screwed up on his response to Katrina.

That was Bush's fault? I could have sworn the Gov. of La. then was in charge of that. :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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Mike said:
James T said:
Bush DID get crucified!!! He sat on his a$$ while the Superdome filled full of human excrement. I liked him otherwise but he really screwed up on his response to Katrina.

That was Bush's fault? I could have sworn the Gov. of La. then was in charge of that. :roll:


Some people need to look up "responsibilties, during natural disaster, Federal, state, local"
 

Larrry

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James T said:
I read you loud and clear Larry!! But, Bush's response time seriously sucked. If he would have been a hell of a lot faster we, in Texas, would not have inherited half the population of that Superdome.

True Bush made mistakes. Anyone worth their salt should have learned from Bush's mistake also. However there is no way to respond to things like this and get it all right. But it looks like obama learned nothing from Bush's mistakes.
 

James T

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LOL!! You know better than that Mike! Katrina wasn't a petty storm with minimal damage. The Governor called for federal help and Bush and FEMA were not listening. Can't say that I blame them but Texas really did get an unwanted population boost. And those damn FEMA trailers are still for sale! NEW 2006's!!!
 

James T

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Larrry said:
James T said:
I read you loud and clear Larry!! But, Bush's response time seriously sucked. If he would have been a hell of a lot faster we, in Texas, would not have inherited half the population of that Superdome.

True Bush made mistakes. Anyone worth their salt should have learned from Bush's mistake also. However there is no way to respond to things like this and get it all right. But it looks like obama learned nothing from Bush's mistakes.

Larry, Obama is just out trying to get votes, I agree. Maybe he will get a little help to a few folks. In any case, a direct hit by a hurricane is no small thing. It amazes me that with the federal governments resources, they can't be johnny on the spot with immediate help. They saw the damn thing coming and knew where it was going go! Hells bells!! What's the probelm?
 

Mike

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With the hurricane threatening the Gulf Coast, many New Orleans residents started taking precautions to secure their homes and prepare for possible evacuation on Friday the 26th and Saturday the 27th. By mid morning on the 27th, many local gas stations which were not yet out of gas had long lines. Nagin first called for a voluntary evacuation of the city at 5:00 pm on August 27 and subsequently ordered a citywide mandatory evacuation at 9:30 am on August 28, the first such order in the city's history. In a live news conference, Mayor Nagin predicted that, "the storm surge most likely will topple our levee system", and warned that oil production in the Gulf of Mexico would be shut down.[14] President Bush made a televised appeal for residents to heed the evacuation orders, warning, "We cannot stress enough the danger this hurricane poses to Gulf Coast communities."[14] Many neighboring areas and parishes also called for evacuations. By mid-afternoon, officials in Plaquemines, St. Bernard, St. Charles, Lafourche, Terrebonne, Jefferson, St. Tammany, and Washington parishes had called for voluntary or mandatory evacuations."[15]
Although Mayor Ray Nagin ordered a mandatory evacuation of the city, many people refused to leave, which a CNN writer described as "gambling with their own lives."[16] Reasons were numerous, including a belief that their homes or the buildings in which they planned to stay offered sufficient protection, lack of financial resources or access to transportation, or a feeling of obligation to protect their property. These reasons were complicated by the fact that an evacuation the previous year for Hurricane Ivan had resulted in the illnesses of many elderly people since cars were stalled in traffic for six to ten hours. The fact that Katrina occurred at the end of the month, before pay checks were in the hands of many was also significant.[17] A "refuge of last resort" was designated at the Louisiana Superdome. Beginning at noon on August 28 and running for several hours, city buses were redeployed to shuttle local residents from 12 pickup points throughout the city to the "shelters of last resort."[18]
By the time Hurricane Katrina came ashore early the next morning, Mayor Nagin estimated that approximately one million people had fled the city and its surrounding suburbs.[19] By the evening of August 28, over 100,000 people remained in the city, with 20,000 taking shelter at the Louisiana Superdome, along with 300 National Guard troops.[20] The Superdome had been used as a shelter in the past, such as during 1998's Hurricane Georges, because it was estimated to be able to withstand winds of up to 200 miles per hour (320 km/h) and water levels of 35 feet (11 m).[21] While supplies of MREs (Meals ready to eat) and bottled water were available at the Superdome, a shelter of last resort, Nagin told survivors to bring blankets and enough food for several days, warning that it would be a very uncomfortable place. As the elevation of the Superdome is about 3 feet (0.91 m) above sea level, the forecast storm surge was predicted to cause flooding on that site. Survivors were told to keep out of the lower levels of the structure, for fear it would be flooded. The entire northern Louisiana region was declared a disaster area by the Federal Government before Hurricane Katrina made landfall.
 
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