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What if GW Bush resigns?

Steve

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Religion has caused more people to be SLAUGHTERED than ANYTHING else on the planet

that comment is about as dumb as saying GUNS kill people...

Niether can kill or slaughter...

Peoples' abuse of both is what is all over the news...

"radical Islamic terrorists" kill....simple as that....

....Why is it Liberals go back to the crusades and dredge up every act done in the name of christanity as a way of defending islam and attacking Christains...yet cry foul when Clinton is mentioned as it is in "the past"???

When was the last time a group of "radical Christians" commited a terrorist act?
 

kolanuraven

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Steve said:
Religion has caused more people to be SLAUGHTERED than ANYTHING else on the planet

that comment is about as dumb as saying GUNS kill people...

Niether can kill or slaughter...

Peoples' abuse of both is what is all over the news...

"radical Islamic terrorists" kill....simple as that....

....Why is it Liberals go back to the crusades and dredge up every act done in the name of christanity as a way of defending islam and attacking Christains...yet cry foul when Clinton is mentioned as it is in "the past"???

When was the last time a group of "radical Christians" commited a terrorist act?



Oklahoma Bombing....McVeigh & Co
 

Red Robin

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Steve said:
Religion has caused more people to be SLAUGHTERED than ANYTHING else on the planet

that comment is about as dumb as saying GUNS kill people...

Niether can kill or slaughter...

Peoples' abuse of both is what is all over the news...

"radical Islamic terrorists" kill....simple as that....

....Why is it Liberals go back to the crusades and dredge up every act done in the name of christanity as a way of defending islam and attacking Christains...yet cry foul when Clinton is mentioned as it is in "the past"???

When was the last time a group of "radical Christians" commited a terrorist act?



Oklahoma Bombing....McVeigh & Co
I havn't heard the Christian conspiracy concerning the Federal building bombing there. Share with us your knowledge.
 

kolanuraven

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Well he (McVeigh)wasn't Islamic....thus he's Christian....he was radical ( Arayan Brotherhood member).....he committed a terrorist act ( BOOM-BOOM.)

I answered his ( Steve's) question as he asked PERIOD.

He ( Steve)didn't ask for a theory.
 

Red Robin

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kolanuraven said:
Well he (McVeigh)wasn't Islamic....thus he's Christian....he was radical ( Arayan Brotherhood member).....he committed a terrorist act ( BOOM-BOOM.)

I answered his ( Steve's) question as he asked PERIOD.

He ( Steve)didn't ask for a theory.
The difference is KRaven that the muslims are doing the acts in the name of Islam. Christians aren't.
 

Steve

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McVeigh wrote a letter claiming to be an agnostic

So there-fore your rational that he was a Christian (just becasue he was not Islamic) is well,.. dead wrong...again

and what about his "islamic terrorist connections"...

n Others Unknown: Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing Conspiracy, Stephen Jones, McVeigh's first, court-appointed lead defense counsel (prior to the death-penalty phase of the case), and Jones's co-author Peter Israel discuss several other possible suspects and continued to implicate Terry Nichols' brother, James.[25]

Jones and Israel suggest in Others Unknown that Terry Nichols had crossed paths with suspected Islamic terrorists during his frequent visits to the Philippines before the attacks. Nichols' father-in-law at the time was a Philippine police officer who owned an apartment building often rented to Arabic-speaking students with alleged terrorist connections. Former counter-terrorism adviser on the U.S. National Security Council Richard A. Clarke speculates on the improvement in Nichols's bomb-making techniques as a possible link to Philippines-based Islamist terrorists in Cebú and the southern islands, plus several telephone calls he made there long after he and his wife had come back to the U.S. together, in his 2004 account of the work he undertook for several administrations, Against All Enemies.

but who would believe Richard Clark?? Unless he was saying something against GW.... :roll:

McVeigh is agnostic. He doesn't believe in God,
 

quickdraw

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kolanuraven said:
Well he (McVeigh)wasn't Islamic....thus he's Christian....he was radical ( Arayan Brotherhood member).....he

committed a terrorist act ( BOOM-BOOM.)

I answered his ( Steve's) question as he asked PERIOD.

He ( Steve)didn't ask for a theory.


So according to you there are only TWO RELIGIONS??
Didn't you forget the JEWISH FAITH?
What about BUDDHISM?
Need I go on?? Or do you realize that you have really failed to make a point?
No one disputes the fact that he commited a terriost act! But you fail to prove his religion?
Radical YES!!
SO now I ask you for a theory, care to expand on your far fetched theory??PERIOD?
 

kolanuraven

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Red Robin said:
kolanuraven said:
Well he (McVeigh)wasn't Islamic....thus he's Christian....he was radical ( Arayan Brotherhood member).....he committed a terrorist act ( BOOM-BOOM.)

I answered his ( Steve's) question as he asked PERIOD.

He ( Steve)didn't ask for a theory.
The difference is KRaven that the muslims are doing the acts in the name of Islam. Christians aren't.

Phillips isn't doing his crazy crap in the name of his religion...which is Christian?
 

kolanuraven

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quickdraw said:
kolanuraven said:
Well he (McVeigh)wasn't Islamic....thus he's Christian....he was radical ( Arayan Brotherhood member).....he

committed a terrorist act ( BOOM-BOOM.)

I answered his ( Steve's) question as he asked PERIOD.

He ( Steve)didn't ask for a theory.


So according to you there are only TWO RELIGIONS??
Didn't you forget the JEWISH FAITH?
What about BUDDHISM?
Need I go on?? Or do you realize that you have really failed to make a point?
No one disputes the fact that he commited a terriost act! But you fail to prove his religion?
Radical YES!!
SO now I ask you for a theory, care to expand on your far fetched theory??PERIOD?


Ya'll will reach for anything. The only 2 religions mentioned in the posts were 2, Islam and Christian....so that's the only 2 I dealt with.

Helles belles ya'll forgot Janinism!!! < Quick....Google it and make me some more $$$$$>>>


I was asked a question...I answered it. Quit crying about the answer you got.
 

Goodpasture

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Red Robin said:
kolanuraven said:
Well he (McVeigh)wasn't Islamic....thus he's Christian....he was radical ( Arayan Brotherhood member).....he committed a terrorist act ( BOOM-BOOM.)

I answered his ( Steve's) question as he asked PERIOD.

He ( Steve)didn't ask for a theory.

The difference is KRaven that the muslims are doing the acts in the name of Islam. Christians aren't.

Of course the Christians aren't doing the acts in the name of Islam.....they're CHRISTIANS for crying out loud.

As I recall, it was Catholic Christians killing Protestant Christians in Ireland for the last 100 years or more.....isn't the IRA still a bit active? A lot like the Sunni's and Shiaa's are killing each other these days.
 

Steve

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KolanuRaven
I was asked a question...I answered it. Quit crying about the answer you got.

but your answer was wrong.....he was agnostic...

as for Phillips...he is a wacko...and while disturbing, he is not very radical...just stupid and a wacko...

so my questions stand unanswered....

Why is it Liberals go back to the crusades and dredge up every act done in the name of Christanity as a way of defending islam and attacking Christians...yet cry foul when Clinton is mentioned as it is in "the past"???


When was the last time a group of "radical Christians" commited a terrorist act?
 

Steve

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GoodPasture
As I recall, it was Catholic Christians killing Protestant Christians in Ireland for the last 100 years or more.....isn't the IRA still a bit active?

is that the,... Irish Republican Army (IRA) (Irish: Óglaigh na hÉireann), sometimes known later as the Old IRA, was a military organisation descended from the Irish Volunteers,..

or the,... Official Irish Republican Army or Official IRA refers to one of the two organisations—the other being the Provisional Irish Republican Army—that emerged from the split in the then Irish Republican Army in 1969–70. Both organisations continued to refer to themselves as the Irish Republican Army and rejected the political legitimacy of the other. The Official IRA had an essentially Marxist approach. Initially engaged in military action against the British Army, it declared an end to offensive action in 1972 but since then engaged in feuds with both the Provisional IRA and the Irish National Liberation Army, a radical splinter group formed in 1974

Maybe it was the ....The Real Irish Republican Army, otherwise known as the Real IRA (RIRA) or True IRA and styling itself as Óglaigh na hÉireann (Volunteers of Ireland), is a paramilitary organisation which aims to bring about a United Ireland through the use of physical force Irish republicanism. The RIRA was formed in 1997 following a split in the Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA), and is an illegal organisation proscribed in the United Kingdom, the Republic of Ireland and the United States. The organisation has been responsible for a number of bombings in Northern Ireland and England, including the Omagh bombing which killed 29 people in 1998...



The IRA's ultimate objective is a United Ireland by forcing British withdrawal from Northern Ireland with the use of physical force.

hmmm,..no mention of GOD in the goal...

while it is (Irish) whom happen to be Catholics... fighting the (British) whom happen to be Protestants,...the fight is about expelling the British..not about religion...

Just like the Sunnis and the Shias....yes,..to a certain degree.

but compared to the Radical Islamic terrorists, they are choir boys.,..and they are not Killing the others because of their religion.

But it still doesn't explain.....Why is it Liberals go back to the crusades and dredge up every act done in the name of Christanity as a way of defending islam and attacking Christians...yet cry foul when Clinton is mentioned as it is in "the past"???
 

kolanuraven

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Steve said:
McVeigh wrote a letter claiming to be an agnostic

So there-fore your rational that he was a Christian (just becasue he was not Islamic) is well,.. dead wrong...again

and what about his "islamic terrorist connections"...
n Others Unknown: Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing Conspiracy, Stephen Jones, McVeigh's first, court-appointed lead defense counsel (prior to the death-penalty phase of the case), and Jones's co-author Peter Israel discuss several other possible suspects and continued to implicate Terry Nichols' brother, James.[25]

Jones and Israel suggest in Others Unknown that Terry Nichols had crossed paths with suspected Islamic terrorists during his frequent visits to the Philippines before the attacks. Nichols' father-in-law at the time was a Philippine police officer who owned an apartment building often rented to Arabic-speaking students with alleged terrorist connections. Former counter-terrorism adviser on the U.S. National Security Council Richard A. Clarke speculates on the improvement in Nichols's bomb-making techniques as a possible link to Philippines-based Islamist terrorists in Cebú and the southern islands, plus several telephone calls he made there long after he and his wife had come back to the U.S. together, in his 2004 account of the work he undertook for several administrations, Against All Enemies.

but who would believe Richard Clark?? Unless he was saying something against GW.... :roll:

McVeigh is agnostic. He doesn't believe in God,


He didn't ask if ( Mc Veigh) there were any ISLAMIC terrorist connection....he said terrorist, just your no name version was all he asked for!!


AGAIN...READ! It won't hurt...really!
 

Steve

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KolanuRaven
.he said terrorist, just your no name version was all he asked for!!

Your answer..
Oklahoma Bombing....McVeigh & Co



Your wrong,...McVeigh was agnostic.....Terry Nichols was suspected of involvement with Radical Islamic Terrorists...

While I didn't ask for a name, you provided one....and your answer was wrong...

AGAIN...READ! It won't hurt...really!

so far you effort to defend radical Islam by attacking Christianity has shown how an educated person can be really stupid.....
 

hotdryplace

Active member
kolanuraven said:
MISTER JingleBob:


So are you saying that Islam et. al. has never invaded other countries with the hopes of taking them over?? :???: :???: :???: Ever heard of a ' cowpoke' or buckaroo named Salah-din Yusuf ibn Ayyub???? He damned sure gave'er what for!!!!


And are you saying that Christian religions have not done the same?
Remember Henry and his wives, quiet a tiff in that country and mainland Europe in that Age of Man.....Mary Queen of Scot and her sis ' Liz and that little ' dust-up"???????? :? :? And what is it....the sun never sets on the English Empire ( aka Anglican Church)!!!!



Religion has caused more people to be SLAUGHTERED than ANYTHING else on the planet....and look around, it's got us NOTHING except more of the same today on the 6 PM news.


Although I tremble in fear at the thought of possibly disagreeing with the lovely and gracious horned one, I must point out that the communists (atheists) killed between 65 and 100 million people in the last century. Not bad for 70 years work. Added up they top the list of the truely professional genociders in history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Book_of_Communism
Interesting stats to give you some pencil work:http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm#America
Religous,or non-religous, greed, or idealism, for empire and domination, or reveloution and freedom, every reason in the book to commit big megadeath is there.
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
You're just looking at a 70 yr time frame....I'm talking in the known history of man, bigger time scale.


You like my horns??????? :pretty:
 

Jinglebob

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kolanuraven said:
MISTER JingleBob:


So are you saying that Islam et. al. has never invaded other countries with the hopes of taking them over?? :???: :???: :???: Ever heard of a ' cowpoke' or buckaroo named Salah-din Yusuf ibn Ayyub???? He damned sure gave'er what for!!!!


And are you saying that Christian religions have not done the same?
Remember Henry and his wives, quiet a tiff in that country and mainland Europe in that Age of Man.....Mary Queen of Scot and her sis ' Liz and that little ' dust-up"???????? :? :? And what is it....the sun never sets on the English Empire ( aka Anglican Church)!!!!



Religion has caused more people to be SLAUGHTERED than ANYTHING else on the planet....and look around, it's got us NOTHING except more of the same today on the 6 PM news.

Danged if I know what you are talking about.

I agree, religion has caused many to die.

Where do we disagree on this matter? Never mind, I've pretty much given up on comeing to this part of Ranchers as it seems to be a big waste of time. No one is ever going to change anyone elses mind about anything.

One thing you can say for all of us folk who belong to the clan of the cow, we are a hardheaded bunch! :D

Must be why we've survived so long! :lol:
 

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