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"what if"

passin thru

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Here is a "what if" scenario for you to ponder upon.

Imagine if you had a time machine that you could go back in time to August of 1945 and take a modern missile battery with you.

Say that you would be located in the flight path of the Enola Gay B-29 Superfortress that had just taken off carrying the first atomic weapon to be delivered on to the people of Hiroshima.

Would you feel the need to shoot it down or let it pass on to do what it was deemed to do???

Would you be willing to change all of history, and be willing to force maybe a million more American casualties????

Would you be willing to let 64,000 Japanese die???
 

Steve

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Th Japan goverment could have ended the war on Aug 6th, but waited until the second bombing of Aug 9th to surrender why?
 

Red Robin

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passin thru said:
Here is a "what if" scenario for you to ponder upon.

Imagine if you had a time machine that you could go back in time to August of 1945 and take a modern missile battery with you.

Say that you would be located in the flight path of the Enola Gay B-29 Superfortress that had just taken off carrying the first atomic weapon to be delivered on to the people of Hiroshima.

Would you feel the need to shoot it down or let it pass on to do what it was deemed to do???

Would you be willing to change all of history, and be willing to force maybe a million more American casualties????

Would you be willing to let 64,000 Japanese die???
I'd salute as she breezed by.
 
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Anonymous

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Thats a No Brainer for me-- No way- I probably wouldn't exist if the bombs had not been dropped and the war ended the way it was...My Dad and 2 uncles all were scheduled to be in the invasion force - which they predicted around a million would be killed...

Truman is being chastised by the bleeding hearts of today- but none scheduled in that invasion force or none of their relatives ever even questioned his decision....
 

Kathy

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Oldtimer, I am reading a book called "House of War", by Joseph Carrol (father was a Brigider General USA Air Force) about the Pentagon.

It gives reliable facts, with references, which clearly show that there was no invasion of Japan required, even before the bombs. The fire bombing of Tokyo, for example, killed an estimated 80,000 - 100,000 Japanese civilians in one night. There was absolutely no need for a land invasion of Japan. If the USA had wanted to, they could have killed every person in Japanese with their bombers.

The dropping of the A bombs was a un-necessary crime against humanity, and a hell of alot more died than 64,000.

Check the book out, if you dare.
 
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Anonymous

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Kathy said:
Oldtimer, I am reading a book called "House of War", by Joseph Carrol (father was a Brigider General USA Air Force) about the Pentagon.

It gives reliable facts, with references, which clearly show that there was no invasion of Japan required, even before the bombs. The fire bombing of Tokyo, for example, killed an estimated 80,000 - 100,000 Japanese civilians in one night. There was absolutely no need for a land invasion of Japan. If the USA had wanted to, they could have killed every person in Japanese with their bombers.

The dropping of the A bombs was a un-necessary crime against humanity, and a hell of alot more died than 64,000.

Check the book out, if you dare.

If it stopped one more American from dying- it was worth it...The Japs then were no different then the radical Muslims of today...Anybody who gets their jolley's from chopping heads off tied up prisoners and hostages with a knife or sword doesn't deserve to live- thats from my book :wink: ....
 

Cowpuncher

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Kathy wrote:
It gives reliable facts, with references, which clearly show that there was no invasion of Japan required, even before the bombs. The fire bombing of Tokyo, for example, killed an estimated 80,000 - 100,000 Japanese civilians in one night. There was absolutely no need for a land invasion of Japan. If the USA had wanted to, they could have killed every person in Japanese with their bombers.

You are a fool to believe such nonsense. Why, for heaven's sake, didn't the Japanese throw in the towel at the battle of Okinawa? They got the hell beat out of them and their purpose was to delay the Allied Troops while they reinforced the home island.

Also, the Japanese also had bomb hardened factories starting to turn out some pretty damn good jet planes which would have stopped the B-29s raiding Tokyo.

Every battle in the Pacific towards the end of the war resulted in the complete annihilation of the Japanese troops and, in some cases, the entire civilian population. At Okinawa, hundreds of civiliams jumped to their deaths rather than surrender. The civilians had been told that Americans ate children and babies - so they committed mass suicide.


Where were you whjen the war war was going on???? :mad:
 

Cowpuncher

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Kathy wrote:
It gives reliable facts, with references, which clearly show that there was no invasion of Japan required, even before the bombs. The fire bombing of Tokyo, for example, killed an estimated 80,000 - 100,000 Japanese civilians in one night. There was absolutely no need for a land invasion of Japan. If the USA had wanted to, they could have killed every person in Japanese with their bombers.

The fire-bombing of Tokyo and other Japanese cities was pretty horrible, but no show-stopper. The German cities of Cologne, Dresden, Hamburg and others were fire-bombed by the Allies. In one night, Hamburg lost 100,000 people. (Read the book "The Night Hamburg Died" for a detailed account of what happened)

I worked in Germany with someone who had been on the outskirts of Hamburg that night. If killing hundreds of thousands of people didn't make the Germans give up, why would the Japanese quit. They were all pretty fanatic.

And a side note. Why do you think we had no world wars after Nagasaki?
Because of the havoc rained on the Japanese and the fact that the world know what the atom bomb would do.
 
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