Red Robin said:
RoperAB said:
Red Robin said:
Nope, that was before my time.
TRs<As Strong as a> Bull Moose Party was made up of many pi$$ed off Republicans and Independants. Democrats too.
Point is that everybody who does not tote party lines is not a pinko.
In Canada we had several Conservative grass root conservative partys over the years that sucessfully served their porpose. Example the Progressives, UFA, SC, Reform, CND. Alliance.
Grant you that Teddys Bull Moose Party didnt do so well in your country but that doesnt mean its a bad idea and can never work.
That missed my point roper. If you vote for other than a republican in this election, you are effectively voting democrat. The green party wont win. Lieberman is the only exception I know of.
For every Rat you see there are a hundred that you dont see. Its the same thing with politicians. For every crooked thing he does its only about one crime in a thousand he will get caught at.
We have the same stuff going on up here. I understand what your saying RR. We had lots of governments in Canada because of vote splitting.
But we also had lots of corrupt crooked governments for years in different areas because people would rather vote for their team even if they know they have bad apples in it.
The problem as I see it is that unless you vote these crooks out your never going to get a decent government. You might end up losing a few elections until you clean house but eventually you will come back better than ever.
If you vote for known crooks your sending the wrong message to politicians and the corruption will just snowball.
In Nova Scotia we had terrible provincial governments. Both Conservative and Liberals were so crooked that it would be hard for an outsider to comprehend just how crooked they were.
People down there were on teams. If their great, great, great, great Grandfather was a liberal then they were a liberal and they were always going to vote liberal nomatter what.
Even when there was no election going on both Liberal and Conservative voters looked at the otherside as another enemy race of people who where not to be associated with. Every aspect of life down there was politics. It was almost like you where in a gang or something. But what you ended up with was both sides being about the same as the Sopranoes.
I think I was about the first card carrying Reform member in Nova Scotia. Believe me I know what its like to go against the grain and be pressured. Haha Everybody Liberal and Conservative thought I was a radical! Hahaha.
But here is the thing. If I could only vote for a crook or somebody who does not represent me. I would simple not vote at all.