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What Some Are Saying About the Town Halls

hypocritexposer

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yes, there is going to be this type on both sides.

that's what will happen when you get a the President, not providing any factual information on his plan for Health Care, label dissenters as RWE and then trampling all over the 1st amendment rights of those same concerned citizens.

Then you throw in his "thugs" and you have a power keg.

what do you think I was talking about the other day.

false accusation/label/demonize.

It's straight out of the Alinsky rules for radicals. And Obama insructed ACORN on the rules and their usage

they are marxist tactics, and Obama is very well versed and skilled in using them to his advantage.

and you can put all the smiley faces on your posts that you want. All it shows is that you are getting a big kick out of this, because you think your President is such an angel.
 

alice

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I wish our Republican reps and senators would hold town hall meetings about the health care. Haven't heard a word out of them about it...so it probably is a big no. Of course, Kay Bailey is going to bail on the senate to run for governor, so I doubt she's even given a town hall meeting any thought. :(
 

hypocritexposer

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Alice, the Republican reps are going to probably keep a low profile on this issue, except while debating it.

They should be addressing your concerns, but there is no final bill to vote on yet.

It won't be a bipartisan vote for sure. But your Rep will only have an affect during debate on the final bill.

Obama has already publically stated, he wants them to maove aside, shut their mouths and let him get it done.
 

alice

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hypocritexposer said:
Alice, the Republican reps are going to probably keep a low profile on this issue, except while debating it.

They should be addressing your concerns, but there is no final bill to vote on yet.

It won't be a bipartisan vote for sure. But your Rep will only have an affect during debate on the final bill.

Obama has already publically stated, he wants them to maove aside, shut their mouths and let him get it done.

You just have an answer for everything, don't ya'? Tell me...how do you KNOW that?

Alice
 

backhoeboogie

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alice said:
I wish our Republican reps and senators would hold town hall meetings about the health care. Haven't heard a word out of them about it...so it probably is a big no. Of course, Kay Bailey is going to bail on the senate to run for governor, so I doubt she's even given a town hall meeting any thought. :(

The best thing elected Republicans can do at the moment is to just sit back and let the libs continue to self destruct.

We really don't need any help anyway. There are enough folks outraged to get the message across. Even the California libs are ranting on blogs and face book about the health bill. "Why is there a debit card if its free etc"
 

alice

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backhoeboogie said:
alice said:
I wish our Republican reps and senators would hold town hall meetings about the health care. Haven't heard a word out of them about it...so it probably is a big no. Of course, Kay Bailey is going to bail on the senate to run for governor, so I doubt she's even given a town hall meeting any thought. :(

The best thing elected Republicans can do at the moment is to just sit back and let the libs continue to self destruct.

We really don't need any help anyway. There are enough folks outraged to get the message across. Even the California libs are ranting on blogs and face book about the health bill. "Why is there a debit card if its free etc"

Be that as it may, I would like to hear it from one of my reps/senators. I would like to be able to question one or all of them. Them sitting back and waiting for libs to "self destruct" isn't what they are in office for. They owe their constituents, be they Republican or Democrat, face time and meeting time.

Alice
 
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Anonymous

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backhoeboogie said:
alice said:
I wish our Republican reps and senators would hold town hall meetings about the health care. Haven't heard a word out of them about it...so it probably is a big no. Of course, Kay Bailey is going to bail on the senate to run for governor, so I doubt she's even given a town hall meeting any thought. :(

The best thing elected Republicans can do at the moment is to just sit back and let the libs continue to self destruct.

We really don't need any help anyway. There are enough folks outraged to get the message across. Even the California libs are ranting on blogs and face book about the health bill. "Why is there a debit card if its free etc"

Actually in Montana all the rally's and town halls in the last few weeks have been by Dems- protesting against the insurance monopoly- and calling for inclusion of a single payer system in the Reform Bill.. Several have been directed at Sen. Baucus for his failure to include a single payer system in his bill- and saying he is in the pockets of the insurance industry...

HELENA - The White House has confirmed that President Barack Obama will be in Bozeman, Montana, on Aug. 14.

White House officials would not say Friday what Obama planned to do in Bozeman. They say the first family also plans to travel to Yellowstone National Park.

Obama has been pushing his policy priorities - including health care - at events around the country, including a stop in Indiana on Wednesday and plans for another town-hall style event next week in New Hampshire.

U.S. Sen. Max Baucus of Montana, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, is leading the health care talks.
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
maybe you're listening to too much "mis-information"

The health insurers are not anti-"reform"
By: Timothy P. Carney
Examiner Columnist
08/07/09 1:08 PM EDT

The most pervasive and most thoroughly false bit of disinformation circulating about health care "reform" legislation is the assertion that opponents of Democratic legislation are on the side of the drug maker and the health insurers.

The truth is very far from that.

Here's a briefing on the policy front:

First, "pro-reform" doesn't mean anything. Currently, there are at least four different "reform" bills before the House and Senate, and they all share some common provisions and also have differences. They also all differ from what Barack Obama advocated on the campaign trail.

In common, all the "reform" bills contain subsidies for people buying private health insurance, as well as a mandate that every person buys and holds insurance. They also all impose regulations on insurers -- for instance, insurers would be prohibited by law from rejecting applicants or charging more based on health.

The areas of disagreement include a mandate that nearly all employers provide health insurance as a benefit, and -- perhaps most importantly -- the creation of a government health insurance plan that will compete with private health insurance plans.

So, where do the private insurers come down?

It's not too hard to figure out: they like "reform" insofar as it means mandates and subsidies; they oppose "reform" insofar as it means a robust government competitor. And, they have agreed to the regulations.

What are the insurers doing about it? The Washington Post reports:

America's Health Insurance Plans, a trade group representing insurance companies, is running what it calls a "seven-figure buy" on national cable of its first ad of the year, calling for health care to be "as affordable as possible" and "supporting bipartisan reforms that Congress can build on." The ad comes as congressional Democrats focus their message on the alleged misdeeds of insurance companies.

Karen Ignagni, AHIP's president and chief executive, said Tuesday that while "the country should be in the midst of a transformative national conversation about health reform, instead a campaign has been launched to demonize" the insurance industry. This month, she said, AHIP will remain focused on spreading the message -- via the existing ad campaign and other efforts -- that the group supports reform.

That means, the insurers want a bill to pass that includes the subsidies and the mandates, and they will hold up their agreement on the regulations as a sign of their goodwill and what's in it for regular people. It also means they'll resist a government plan.

And campaign contributions?

The insurance industry gave 60% of its money to Democratic candidates in 2008 and so far has given 65% of its money to Democrats in the 2010 cycle, according to OpenSecrets.org.

The top recipient of health insurance PAC money this cycle is Henry Waxman, chief author of the House "reform bill," who is tied with Harry Reid for that honor.

In 2008, the top recipient of HMO money was Barack Obama, and the top non-presidential recipent was Max Baucus, chief Senate author of "reform."

Given this data, it's hard to take seriously Democratic claims about the "opponents of reform" being industry shills. Here are just two of those claims, but please post in the comments more of these claims:

Rep. Betty Castor, D-Fla.: "It’s not lost on me how badly the health insurance industry and the big drug companies do not want health reform to happen."

WhiteHouse.gov: "For those who fight reform in order to profit financially or politically from the status quo, the president sends a simple message: ‘Not this time.’”
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
You must be part of the minority in Montana, OT.

Probably part of the mass majority-- haven't been one of the dozen that went to our ********* party- and haven't went to a Dem single payer rally....
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
You must be part of the minority in Montana, OT.

Probably part of the mass majority-- haven't been one of the dozen that went to our ********* party- and haven't went to a Dem single payer rally....

Probabally was afraid to show your face at either cause they all know how you lie!! :wink:
 

Tam

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hypocritexposer said:
You must be part of the minority in Montana, OT.

I have to say that I have been at two events in the Montana in the last two weeks and when the topic of health care came up I was told by the people I was talking with, they wished they could run Obama and his Health Care out of town. As they felt nothing good was going to become of it. So I have to wonder about the stories Oldtimer has been telling us. :wink:
 

Sandhusker

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alice said:
backhoeboogie said:
alice said:
I wish our Republican reps and senators would hold town hall meetings about the health care. Haven't heard a word out of them about it...so it probably is a big no. Of course, Kay Bailey is going to bail on the senate to run for governor, so I doubt she's even given a town hall meeting any thought. :(

The best thing elected Republicans can do at the moment is to just sit back and let the libs continue to self destruct.

We really don't need any help anyway. There are enough folks outraged to get the message across. Even the California libs are ranting on blogs and face book about the health bill. "Why is there a debit card if its free etc"


Be that as it may, I would like to hear it from one of my reps/senators. I would like to be able to question one or all of them. Them sitting back and waiting for libs to "self destruct" isn't what they are in office for. They owe their constituents, be they Republican or Democrat, face time and meeting time.

Alice

If you believe that constituents are owed face time, why aren't you speaking out on Obama calling out the brownshirts to deny people that face time?
 

alice

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
alice said:
backhoeboogie said:
The best thing elected Republicans can do at the moment is to just sit back and let the libs continue to self destruct.

We really don't need any help anyway. There are enough folks outraged to get the message across. Even the California libs are ranting on blogs and face book about the health bill. "Why is there a debit card if its free etc"


Be that as it may, I would like to hear it from one of my reps/senators. I would like to be able to question one or all of them. Them sitting back and waiting for libs to "self destruct" isn't what they are in office for. They owe their constituents, be they Republican or Democrat, face time and meeting time.

Alice

If you believe that constituents are owed face time, why aren't you speaking out on Obama calling out the brownshirts to deny people that face time?

Last time I heard "brownshirts," Miss Orly was screeching it...

Alice
 

hopalong

Well-known member
alice said:
Sandhusker said:
alice said:
Be that as it may, I would like to hear it from one of my reps/senators. I would like to be able to question one or all of them. Them sitting back and waiting for libs to "self destruct" isn't what they are in office for. They owe their constituents, be they Republican or Democrat, face time and meeting time.

Alice

If you believe that constituents are owed face time, why aren't you speaking out on Obama calling out the brownshirts to deny people that face time?

Last time I heard "brownshirts," Miss Orly was screeching it...

Alice

Could that be because you have been out of touch since 1949?? :D :D
 

alice

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hopalong said:
alice said:
Sandhusker said:
If you believe that constituents are owed face time, why aren't you speaking out on Obama calling out the brownshirts to deny people that face time?

Last time I heard "brownshirts," Miss Orly was screeching it...

Alice

Could that be because you have been out of touch since 1949?? :D :D

I wasn't even born in 1949...NEXT?

Alice
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
alice said:
Sandhusker said:
alice said:
Be that as it may, I would like to hear it from one of my reps/senators. I would like to be able to question one or all of them. Them sitting back and waiting for libs to "self destruct" isn't what they are in office for. They owe their constituents, be they Republican or Democrat, face time and meeting time.

Alice

If you believe that constituents are owed face time, why aren't you speaking out on Obama calling out the brownshirts to deny people that face time?

Last time I heard "brownshirts," Miss Orly was screeching it...

Alice

Last time the brownshirts were in action, Hitler was directing them. What is the difference between how Obama is using the union thugs and how Hitler used the brownshirts, Alice?
 
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