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VanC

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Future 'Profits' In Bailout Bill To Be Directed To La Raza And ACORN Ahead Of Americans
By Digger


So Democrats are saying that this bailout is for the good of the country, the economy and the American people. They fail to note a few stipulations in the proposed bill that are quite disturbing. First, we have been told that the American people could make money off of this deal. Second, we have been told that if a bailout doesn't occur and that their corporate buddies and donors aren't given billions that you will suffer.

Of course in all of this they left out the mention of a little portion of the proposed bill that directs initial profits into left wing and the pro illegal alien coffers of ACORN and La Raza before it is "distributed" back to the American people. Dare I say an "earmark" to those who are in favor of breaking the law?

I received a copy of "Agreement in Principle" relative to the $700 billion "bailout" being proposed and supported by Senate Democrats. The one page agreement from the U.S. Senate Banking Committee details guidelines to be put in place relative to taxpayer protection, oversight and transparency, home ownership preservation and Funding Authority.

In the "agreement in principle," there is the effect of a major "earmark" which commits money from future "profits" to be given to nonprofits organizations like ACORN, National Council of La Raza and potentially the National Urban League. This agreement clearly evidences that the Government expects to benefit in the future from the bailout when the values of property rises and mortgages or properties are then sold by the Federal government.

ACORN is a left wing group under the guise of "housing for the poor" and "voter registration". They are a one stop shop to signup voters who have their beliefs AND give them a house. They are one of the major catalysts of the current mortgage crisis, lobbying for mortgages with no credit checks.

ARRA also points to this statement by James H. Walsh, a former federal prosecutor

"ACORN Housing Corporation (AHC) was instrumental in its passage of the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) which has plagued the mortgage markets since 1977. The U.S. Congress through the CRA compelled banks and lending institutions to make loans to “communities of color” disregarding sound economic and risk guidelines. CRA encouraged the relaxing of “outdated” risk-management protocols and underwriting obligations by lending institutions. In the name of ending discrimination, no longer were “communities of color” required to provide verification of income, employment, credit history, ability to pay homeowner bills, or down payment. In response, many banks and mortgage groups bundled trillions of dollars of “subprime” loans and sold them to investors here and abroad. It is these bundled Community Reinvestment Act mortgages, doomed to fail, that are today causing financial strain in U.S. and global financial markets."

The Community Reinvestment Act, what a cheerful name. We'll reinvest in the community! But the CRA is exactly what caused our current crisis. Giving bad loans to those who couldn't afford them and now that the crap has hit the fan, ACORN is sitting first in line, with Democrats help, to receive any profits that could come from the bailout.

As for La Raza, well we know where these racists stand... mortgages and loans to illegal aliens and those who cannot afford to pay them back, but only if they're Hispanic. Now it seems they've lobbied enough to also get themselves put at the head of the line, in front of the American people.


This is making the rounds of the blogs this afternoon and, as far as I know, hasn't been picked up by any of the major news outlets. I don't know if it's accurate or not, and maybe the Republicans are doing the same thing. I don't know.

I don't get it. Earmarks have been front and center in both campaigns, not to mention last night's debate. Yes, whether they should be or not, earmarks are a part of life. Both parties routinely tack them on to bills on a regular basis, and usually the public doesn't notice. But this bill is different. People are paying attention, and yet they're still doing it. Are they stupid? Do they think we are? Could they, and I'm talking both Democrats and Republicans here, once, just ONCE, pass a bill that's good for the country without casting an eye towards what's in THEY"RE best interests? If this is true, it makes me sick.
 

fff

Well-known member
VanC said:
Future 'Profits' In Bailout Bill To Be Directed To La Raza And ACORN Ahead Of Americans
By Digger


So Democrats are saying that this bailout is for the good of the country, the economy and the American people. They fail to note a few stipulations in the proposed bill that are quite disturbing. First, we have been told that the American people could make money off of this deal. Second, we have been told that if a bailout doesn't occur and that their corporate buddies and donors aren't given billions that you will suffer.

Of course in all of this they left out the mention of a little portion of the proposed bill that directs initial profits into left wing and the pro illegal alien coffers of ACORN and La Raza before it is "distributed" back to the American people. Dare I say an "earmark" to those who are in favor of breaking the law?

I received a copy of "Agreement in Principle" relative to the $700 billion "bailout" being proposed and supported by Senate Democrats. The one page agreement from the U.S. Senate Banking Committee details guidelines to be put in place relative to taxpayer protection, oversight and transparency, home ownership preservation and Funding Authority.

In the "agreement in principle," there is the effect of a major "earmark" which commits money from future "profits" to be given to nonprofits organizations like ACORN, National Council of La Raza and potentially the National Urban League. This agreement clearly evidences that the Government expects to benefit in the future from the bailout when the values of property rises and mortgages or properties are then sold by the Federal government.

ACORN is a left wing group under the guise of "housing for the poor" and "voter registration". They are a one stop shop to signup voters who have their beliefs AND give them a house. They are one of the major catalysts of the current mortgage crisis, lobbying for mortgages with no credit checks.

ARRA also points to this statement by James H. Walsh, a former federal prosecutor

"ACORN Housing Corporation (AHC) was instrumental in its passage of the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) which has plagued the mortgage markets since 1977. The U.S. Congress through the CRA compelled banks and lending institutions to make loans to “communities of color” disregarding sound economic and risk guidelines. CRA encouraged the relaxing of “outdated” risk-management protocols and underwriting obligations by lending institutions. In the name of ending discrimination, no longer were “communities of color” required to provide verification of income, employment, credit history, ability to pay homeowner bills, or down payment. In response, many banks and mortgage groups bundled trillions of dollars of “subprime” loans and sold them to investors here and abroad. It is these bundled Community Reinvestment Act mortgages, doomed to fail, that are today causing financial strain in U.S. and global financial markets."

The Community Reinvestment Act, what a cheerful name. We'll reinvest in the community! But the CRA is exactly what caused our current crisis. Giving bad loans to those who couldn't afford them and now that the crap has hit the fan, ACORN is sitting first in line, with Democrats help, to receive any profits that could come from the bailout.

As for La Raza, well we know where these racists stand... mortgages and loans to illegal aliens and those who cannot afford to pay them back, but only if they're Hispanic. Now it seems they've lobbied enough to also get themselves put at the head of the line, in front of the American people.


This is making the rounds of the blogs this afternoon and, as far as I know, hasn't been picked up by any of the major news outlets. I don't know if it's accurate or not, and maybe the Republicans are doing the same thing. I don't know.

I don't get it. Earmarks have been front and center in both campaigns, not to mention last night's debate. Yes, whether they should be or not, earmarks are a part of life. Both parties routinely tack them on to bills on a regular basis, and usually the public doesn't notice. But this bill is different. People are paying attention, and yet they're still doing it. Are they stupid? Do they think we are? Could they, and I'm talking both Democrats and Republicans here, once, just ONCE, pass a bill that's good for the country without casting an eye towards what's in THEY"RE best interests? If this is true, it makes me sick.

Link, please. Maybe it hasn't been picked up because it's not true. But you'd NEVER, EVER post something like that, would you?

And I'll remind you that the bail out is this Republican Administration's idea, not Congressional Democrats.
 

VanC

Well-known member
fff said:
VanC said:
Future 'Profits' In Bailout Bill To Be Directed To La Raza And ACORN Ahead Of Americans
By Digger


So Democrats are saying that this bailout is for the good of the country, the economy and the American people. They fail to note a few stipulations in the proposed bill that are quite disturbing. First, we have been told that the American people could make money off of this deal. Second, we have been told that if a bailout doesn't occur and that their corporate buddies and donors aren't given billions that you will suffer.

Of course in all of this they left out the mention of a little portion of the proposed bill that directs initial profits into left wing and the pro illegal alien coffers of ACORN and La Raza before it is "distributed" back to the American people. Dare I say an "earmark" to those who are in favor of breaking the law?

I received a copy of "Agreement in Principle" relative to the $700 billion "bailout" being proposed and supported by Senate Democrats. The one page agreement from the U.S. Senate Banking Committee details guidelines to be put in place relative to taxpayer protection, oversight and transparency, home ownership preservation and Funding Authority.

In the "agreement in principle," there is the effect of a major "earmark" which commits money from future "profits" to be given to nonprofits organizations like ACORN, National Council of La Raza and potentially the National Urban League. This agreement clearly evidences that the Government expects to benefit in the future from the bailout when the values of property rises and mortgages or properties are then sold by the Federal government.

ACORN is a left wing group under the guise of "housing for the poor" and "voter registration". They are a one stop shop to signup voters who have their beliefs AND give them a house. They are one of the major catalysts of the current mortgage crisis, lobbying for mortgages with no credit checks.

ARRA also points to this statement by James H. Walsh, a former federal prosecutor

"ACORN Housing Corporation (AHC) was instrumental in its passage of the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) which has plagued the mortgage markets since 1977. The U.S. Congress through the CRA compelled banks and lending institutions to make loans to “communities of color” disregarding sound economic and risk guidelines. CRA encouraged the relaxing of “outdated” risk-management protocols and underwriting obligations by lending institutions. In the name of ending discrimination, no longer were “communities of color” required to provide verification of income, employment, credit history, ability to pay homeowner bills, or down payment. In response, many banks and mortgage groups bundled trillions of dollars of “subprime” loans and sold them to investors here and abroad. It is these bundled Community Reinvestment Act mortgages, doomed to fail, that are today causing financial strain in U.S. and global financial markets."

The Community Reinvestment Act, what a cheerful name. We'll reinvest in the community! But the CRA is exactly what caused our current crisis. Giving bad loans to those who couldn't afford them and now that the crap has hit the fan, ACORN is sitting first in line, with Democrats help, to receive any profits that could come from the bailout.

As for La Raza, well we know where these racists stand... mortgages and loans to illegal aliens and those who cannot afford to pay them back, but only if they're Hispanic. Now it seems they've lobbied enough to also get themselves put at the head of the line, in front of the American people.


This is making the rounds of the blogs this afternoon and, as far as I know, hasn't been picked up by any of the major news outlets. I don't know if it's accurate or not, and maybe the Republicans are doing the same thing. I don't know.

I don't get it. Earmarks have been front and center in both campaigns, not to mention last night's debate. Yes, whether they should be or not, earmarks are a part of life. Both parties routinely tack them on to bills on a regular basis, and usually the public doesn't notice. But this bill is different. People are paying attention, and yet they're still doing it. Are they stupid? Do they think we are? Could they, and I'm talking both Democrats and Republicans here, once, just ONCE, pass a bill that's good for the country without casting an eye towards what's in THEY"RE best interests? If this is true, it makes me sick.

Link, please. Maybe it hasn't been picked up because it's not true. But you'd NEVER, EVER post something like that, would you?

And I'll remind you that the bail out is this Republican Administration's idea, not Congressional Democrats.

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/002956.html

OK. I've cut and pasted the comments I made in my previous post, just in case you missed them, and I've emphasized the parts I feel are relevant. I'll say it again. I don't know if it's true, but it needs to be looked at. I don't know if Republicans have tried to slip something like this into the bill, and that needs to be looked at, too. My point was that if this is happening, I find it disgusting, no matter which party is doing it. My belief is that all bills, and now especially this bill, should be put forth with the best interests of the American people in mind, not the bests interests of either party. Do you disagree with that?

This is making the rounds of the blogs this afternoon and, as far as I know, hasn't been picked up by any of the major news outlets. I don't know if it's accurate or not, and maybe the Republicans are doing the same thing. I don't know.

I don't get it. Earmarks have been front and center in both campaigns, not to mention last night's debate. Yes, whether they should be or not, earmarks are a part of life. Both parties routinely tack them on to bills on a regular basis, and usually the public doesn't notice. But this bill is different. People are paying attention, and yet they're still doing it. Are they stupid? Do they think we are? Could they, and I'm talking both Democrats and Republicans here, once, just ONCE, pass a bill that's good for the country without casting an eye towards what's in THEY"RE best interests? If this is true, it makes me sick.
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fff

Well-known member
VanC said:
fff said:
VanC said:
Future 'Profits' In Bailout Bill To Be Directed To La Raza And ACORN Ahead Of Americans
By Digger


So Democrats are saying that this bailout is for the good of the country, the economy and the American people. They fail to note a few stipulations in the proposed bill that are quite disturbing. First, we have been told that the American people could make money off of this deal. Second, we have been told that if a bailout doesn't occur and that their corporate buddies and donors aren't given billions that you will suffer.

Of course in all of this they left out the mention of a little portion of the proposed bill that directs initial profits into left wing and the pro illegal alien coffers of ACORN and La Raza before it is "distributed" back to the American people. Dare I say an "earmark" to those who are in favor of breaking the law?

I received a copy of "Agreement in Principle" relative to the $700 billion "bailout" being proposed and supported by Senate Democrats. The one page agreement from the U.S. Senate Banking Committee details guidelines to be put in place relative to taxpayer protection, oversight and transparency, home ownership preservation and Funding Authority.

In the "agreement in principle," there is the effect of a major "earmark" which commits money from future "profits" to be given to nonprofits organizations like ACORN, National Council of La Raza and potentially the National Urban League. This agreement clearly evidences that the Government expects to benefit in the future from the bailout when the values of property rises and mortgages or properties are then sold by the Federal government.

ACORN is a left wing group under the guise of "housing for the poor" and "voter registration". They are a one stop shop to signup voters who have their beliefs AND give them a house. They are one of the major catalysts of the current mortgage crisis, lobbying for mortgages with no credit checks.

ARRA also points to this statement by James H. Walsh, a former federal prosecutor

"ACORN Housing Corporation (AHC) was instrumental in its passage of the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) which has plagued the mortgage markets since 1977. The U.S. Congress through the CRA compelled banks and lending institutions to make loans to “communities of color” disregarding sound economic and risk guidelines. CRA encouraged the relaxing of “outdated” risk-management protocols and underwriting obligations by lending institutions. In the name of ending discrimination, no longer were “communities of color” required to provide verification of income, employment, credit history, ability to pay homeowner bills, or down payment. In response, many banks and mortgage groups bundled trillions of dollars of “subprime” loans and sold them to investors here and abroad. It is these bundled Community Reinvestment Act mortgages, doomed to fail, that are today causing financial strain in U.S. and global financial markets."

The Community Reinvestment Act, what a cheerful name. We'll reinvest in the community! But the CRA is exactly what caused our current crisis. Giving bad loans to those who couldn't afford them and now that the crap has hit the fan, ACORN is sitting first in line, with Democrats help, to receive any profits that could come from the bailout.

As for La Raza, well we know where these racists stand... mortgages and loans to illegal aliens and those who cannot afford to pay them back, but only if they're Hispanic. Now it seems they've lobbied enough to also get themselves put at the head of the line, in front of the American people.


This is making the rounds of the blogs this afternoon and, as far as I know, hasn't been picked up by any of the major news outlets. I don't know if it's accurate or not, and maybe the Republicans are doing the same thing. I don't know.

I don't get it. Earmarks have been front and center in both campaigns, not to mention last night's debate. Yes, whether they should be or not, earmarks are a part of life. Both parties routinely tack them on to bills on a regular basis, and usually the public doesn't notice. But this bill is different. People are paying attention, and yet they're still doing it. Are they stupid? Do they think we are? Could they, and I'm talking both Democrats and Republicans here, once, just ONCE, pass a bill that's good for the country without casting an eye towards what's in THEY"RE best interests? If this is true, it makes me sick.

Link, please. Maybe it hasn't been picked up because it's not true. But you'd NEVER, EVER post something like that, would you?

And I'll remind you that the bail out is this Republican Administration's idea, not Congressional Democrats.

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/002956.html

OK. I've cut and pasted the comments I made in my previous post, just in case you missed them, and I've emphasized the parts I feel are relevant. I'll say it again. I don't know if it's true, but it needs to be looked at. I don't know if Republicans have tried to slip something like this into the bill, and that needs to be looked at, too. My point was that if this is happening, I find it disgusting, no matter which party is doing it. My belief is that all bills, and now especially this bill, should be put forth with the best interests of the American people in mind, not the bests interests of either party. Do you disagree with that?

This is making the rounds of the blogs this afternoon and, as far as I know, hasn't been picked up by any of the major news outlets. I don't know if it's accurate or not, and maybe the Republicans are doing the same thing. I don't know.

I don't get it. Earmarks have been front and center in both campaigns, not to mention last night's debate. Yes, whether they should be or not, earmarks are a part of life. Both parties routinely tack them on to bills on a regular basis, and usually the public doesn't notice. But this bill is different. People are paying attention, and yet they're still doing it. Are they stupid? Do they think we are? Could they, and I'm talking both Democrats and Republicans here, once, just ONCE, pass a bill that's good for the country without casting an eye towards what's in THEY"RE best interests? If this is true, it makes me sick.
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Why would you post this if you don't even know it's true? Do you know what that says about you, Van? :lol: :lol:
 

VanC

Well-known member
fff said:
Why would you post this if you don't even know it's true? Do you know what that says about you, Van? :lol: :lol:

Because it makes me sick to my stomach. I'm trying to be conciliatory here. I'm trying to point out that this thing happens all the time, and neither party is solely responsible, but I guess that's not good enough for you. So be it. As for what that says about me, why don't you spell it out for us.
 

fff

Well-known member
VanC said:
fff said:
Why would you post this if you don't even know it's true? Do you know what that says about you, Van? :lol: :lol:

Because it makes me sick to my stomach. I'm trying to be conciliatory here. I'm trying to point out that this thing happens all the time, and neither party is solely responsible, but I guess that's not good enough for you. So be it. As for what that says about me, why don't you spell it out for us.

"Conciliatory"? Why not just stop posting stuff that you don't know to be true? Posting this is inflammatory and it's probably not true.

Did you complain about this:

Under the auspices of its religion-based initiatives and other federal programs, the administration has funneled at least $157 million in grants to organizations run by political and ideological allies, according to federal grant documents and interviews.

More at the link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/21/AR2006032101723.html

Or because they're conservative, anti-abortion groups that you agree with, is it ok to give them millions of tax payer dollars?
 

Steve

Well-known member
fff said:
VanC said:
fff said:
Why would you post this if you don't even know it's true? Do you know what that says about you, Van? :lol: :lol:

Because it makes me sick to my stomach. I'm trying to be conciliatory here. I'm trying to point out that this thing happens all the time, and neither party is solely responsible, but I guess that's not good enough for you. So be it. As for what that says about me, why don't you spell it out for us.

funny how it is on all the major cable news networks if it is not true... the liberal media wouldn't lie to us would they?

no one has seen the "bill" proposal but a few hand selected democrats.. so no we don't know what they are trying to put in..

but the whole plan stinks.. and the so called democratic leadeship seems to be packing in every bit of pork they can..
 
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but the whole plan stinks.. and the so called democratic leadeship seems to be packing in every bit of pork they can..

Yep blame it all on the Dems..

You can't blame just Democrats or Obama- YOUR Chosen Champion has a 25 year history of stink with being tied to special interests and Lobbying groups.......

John McCain: La Raza’s voice in Washington
By Michelle Malkin • February 4, 2008 01:46 PM
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You want straight talk? McCain’s tongue says he’s “listened and learned.” But his heart is with La Raza, the militantly ethnocentric, anti-immigration enforcement Hispanic lobbying group that honored him in 1999 and whose annual conference he keynoted in 2004.

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/04/john-mccain-la-razas-voice-in-washington/

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/25/meet-the-open-borders-family-mccain-hernandez-soros-and-the-reform-institute/

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=56177

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=63522

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/05/mccain-to-speak-at-open-borders-la-raza-the-race-conference/
 

movin' on

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
I'll remind you that if McCain's warnings were heeded years ago, a bailout wouldn't be needed!!!!!!!

Where was Obama?

Obama was busily organizing communities and stapling fliers to telephone poles.
 

movin' on

Well-known member
Oh yeah, I forgot............

and sitting under Jeremiah Wright's leadership......

and kicking off his campaign at known terrorist William Ayers house..........

and receiving monies from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.........

and voting against bills that made it illegal to allow a living, breathing infant to die unassisted................

and voting "present"............

and trying to pass a bill to teach comprehensive sex education to kindergartners............

and writing books promising to "stand with the Muslims"............

and teaching people how to vote fraudulantly through "ACORN".........

what else am I forgetting?
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
LaRaza has endorsed Obama and Bush sure as heck wouldn't give a nickel to ACORN. There's no doubt there are only Democrat fingerprints on this.

When does it end? What will it take for Democrats to quit hosing taxpayers, even when we're down? We're on our hands and knees and the Democrats are lining up behind us for a poke. When does it ever end?
 
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