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What will be Bush's reasons for withdrawal?

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OK Jeanne

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Excerpt from commentary discussing our troop withdrawal &
the reasons for it:
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What emerges here is not fleeting disenchantment, but a coherent and hard-nosed critique of Bush's strategy. The administration's fundamental problem is not that the public is discouraged by U.S. casualties, or that news from Iraq has been bad, or that the president needs to give better speeches. The problem is that many Americans see no stakes in Iraq sufficient to justify the military effort and diplomatic cost.
(poster's note: I think the cost to taxpayers, rising inflation, unprecedented deficit, etc etc are also basic worries of Americans)
If Pew's findings are accurate, then presidential rhetoric and developments in Iraq have mostly ceased to matter. The public will not support a military operation that it has come to regard as social work on behalf of Iraqis, rather than security work on behalf of Americans.
........So by spring, if not earlier, look for Bush to announce that progress in Iraq allows U.S. forces to start coming home. He will say that the drawdown is the best way to help the Iraqis stand on their own.......

He may also say that withdrawing is "not a formula for getting out of [the region], but one that provided the only sound basis for America's staying in and continuing to play a responsible role."

Those were the words of Richard Nixon, who, somewhere, is wanly smiling.
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full article at this link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/02/AR2005120201409.html
 

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The left tries to be so clever at creating talking points; So now fighting Islamic Terrorists and securing victory is social work? And as much as the left would like a timetable for pulling out, so the terrorists can have a chance to go back to their mud huts and rest up and cross breed with their goats(as close to vestibule virgins as they're going to get), it ain't gonna happen.
 

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Cal said:
The left tries to be so clever at creating talking points; So now fighting Islamic Terrorists and securing victory is social work? And as much as the left would like a timetable for pulling out, so the terrorists can have a chance to go back to their mud huts and rest up and cross breed with their goats(as close to vestibule virgins as they're going to get), it ain't gonna happen.

There is a timetable for pulling out, Cal. As much as you try to ignore it, Gen Casey has such a plan on Rumsfeld's desk. We're getting out, starting next year. :D And I predict it will be an withdrawal much as Congressman Murtha suggested.
 

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Disagreeable said:
Cal said:
The left tries to be so clever at creating talking points; So now fighting Islamic Terrorists and securing victory is social work? And as much as the left would like a timetable for pulling out, so the terrorists can have a chance to go back to their mud huts and rest up and cross breed with their goats(as close to vestibule virgins as they're going to get), it ain't gonna happen.

There is a timetable for pulling out, Cal. As much as you try to ignore it, Gen Casey has such a plan on Rumsfeld's desk. We're getting out, starting next year. :D And I predict it will be an withdrawal much as Congressman Murtha suggested.
Be careful when comparing timetables to guidelines.
 

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Well, here's a fearless prediction: The "final" withdrawal of us troops
will only be to the Kurdish controlled areas in the North. That is where
more of the land has not been surveyed for oil production. The
south areas (Iranian influenced) has been extensively explored.
The Kurds have already signed contracts with foreign companies to
drill exploratory wells===without consulting the central govt in
Baghdad. I predict a permanent presence of US troops there to
protect the oil producing areas of the "to-be" Kurdistan. We'll know
for sure in about a year. Did anyone see the Fox channel 'made-for-TeeVee" movie called "Oil Storm"? It played last June. It's basic
message was:
1. You may have to sacrifice your first-born in the Middle East
to protect USA's energy supply.
2. Our leaders may make mistakes, but they are honest and act
in our interest.
3. Farmers get first 'dibs' on energy supplies
4. All will be well if we trust in God and go to church
5. It(energy shortage) is all China's fault;i.e. they should be content
to stick to bicycles.

It was an amazing piece of work--- it had Frank Lutz written all over
it.
 

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SteveC....hate to argue but the Civil War was NOT about slavery....its true root was states rights. Slavery did become an issue and it was the popular issue that got all the attention. Horrible fact is that once the slaves were free....when many of them went to the " North", they were mistreated there also, maybe just as bad , if not worse.

States rights is still an issue to this day.
 

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