Disagreeable
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Our president gives a speech on immigration and there's no discussion on this page? I didn't watch it. But surely all his supporters on this boad did. Tell us what you think about his plan?
I think they do some. I know of one case but the kid stayed with relatives and the shippies where back in a month or less. One big happy family again.kolanuraven said:I have a question for those who want deportation of illegals already here?
What do you do with the children of the ' illegals'????? I mean those kids who were born here in the US and they, themselves are US citizens?
Can't ship Mommie y Poppie back to Mejico and leave the kids here?
Disagreeable said:Our president gives a speech on immigration and there's no discussion on this page? I didn't watch it. But surely all his supporters on this boad did. Tell us what you think about his plan?
Red Robin said:I think they do some. I know of one case but the kid stayed with relatives and the shippies where back in a month or less. One big happy family again.kolanuraven said:I have a question for those who want deportation of illegals already here?
What do you do with the children of the ' illegals'????? I mean those kids who were born here in the US and they, themselves are US citizens?
Can't ship Mommie y Poppie back to Mejico and leave the kids here?
Oldtimer said:I don't think his plan is going to go very far- I don't think he can get Congress to agree on a complete program as long as he is still offering an amnesty- and that is what it is when he gives the illegal lawbreakers first chance at papers and eventually citizenship....I heard several of the conservative congressman already saying they weren't going to allow it....
They might whip out some kind of bill to additionally fund the National Guard and border patrol to close the borders- but I don't think he's going to get anything long term thru as long as he holds on to his temporary worker program plan which is essentially an amnesty......
Close the borders solid to illegals first- That should be our primary goal....I approve his actions to do that- altho I don't think he went far enough- 6000 troops is not enough..... Then get the illegals out - which wouldn't be hard if the business's hiring them were prosecuted vigorously and to fullest extent of the law- if they have no place to work they will leave....Then work on a way to get LEGAL immigrants into the country if they are truly needed....
It will take drastic measures to cure a drastic situation- and I don't think Bush's Corporate World run administration will take them...
BBJ said:What about elein gonzales? (SP?) What happened to him? Who was in charge of that one? :lol2:
Disagreeable said:Oldtimer said:I don't think his plan is going to go very far- I don't think he can get Congress to agree on a complete program as long as he is still offering an amnesty- and that is what it is when he gives the illegal lawbreakers first chance at papers and eventually citizenship....I heard several of the conservative congressman already saying they weren't going to allow it....
They might whip out some kind of bill to additionally fund the National Guard and border patrol to close the borders- but I don't think he's going to get anything long term thru as long as he holds on to his temporary worker program plan which is essentially an amnesty......
Close the borders solid to illegals first- That should be our primary goal....I approve his actions to do that- altho I don't think he went far enough- 6000 troops is not enough..... Then get the illegals out - which wouldn't be hard if the business's hiring them were prosecuted vigorously and to fullest extent of the law- if they have no place to work they will leave....Then work on a way to get LEGAL immigrants into the country if they are truly needed....
It will take drastic measures to cure a drastic situation- and I don't think Bush's Corporate World run administration will take them...
I think you're right. If we enforced the laws against hiring illegals, there would be no reason for them to come in here. My son managed a lawn service company for ten years. He knew the guys were giving him forged documents, but he didn't have to verify they were real.
But big businesses want that cheap labor and they give big bucks to politicians. Americans want cheap products, especially food. Plus if unemployment in this country is only 4-5%, who's going to do the work of those thousands of illegals when we deport them?
what if the parents decided now was their time to dump the little kiddies and run???? Then what??? Gov't orphanages???
passin thru said:what if the parents decided now was their time to dump the little kiddies and run???? Then what??? Gov't orphanages???
I guess you would treat them like any other US citizens that their parents abandoned.
Faster horses said:Regarding the comment on welfare recipients, "make them go to work". Great idea!
How would you like to hire them~the ones that don't want to work and have never worked, I mean?
How do you MAKE someone work this day and age? We are reaping what we sowed...generations of welfare people.
We bought a horse once that had never done much. Stood around in a pasture. The horse was 10. He'd never done anything and he didn't want to do anything either. He spent a lot of energy trying to get out of work. It was a lot of work getting him to do something. He never amounted to a tinkers darn.
Get my point? :wink: