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What's with the friggin' bowing?

Whitewing

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Tam

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They were just pointing out how when Gates went to China they rolled out the stealth fighter jet and when China's leader come to the US Obama rolls out the red carpet and throughs a honored party. Just who has the upper hand in this relationship, I doubt anyone looking on thinks it is the once powerful UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN.

I guess bowing and hosting a big bash is what you do when you know you are going to be begging the Chinese to backroll your next Progressive takeover of the US economy. :roll:
 

Tam

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cardshuffle said:
Look at how Jintao isn't bowing to Obama, just shaking his hand like, "What is this guy doing? Do Americans bow?"

What do you think was being thought here
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and here
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and here
remember this was a MAYOR of an American city.

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The American President should not be bowing to ANYONE, This guy needs to get a back brace and stop embarassing the American people. :roll:
 
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Anonymous

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Well- everyone has different ways of showing respect for folks they meet/greet... I was always taught to nod to my elders when shaking hands- and tipping my hat to the ladies- but each area has differing customs...

I don't see Obama's bowing as any major conspiracy to take over the world....

Funny how soon we forget about GW following the kissing custom of some areas.... (Especially when the Bush/Cheney backed oil cartels were ripping us off with profiteering)...
So kissing and holding hands with rich oil country Princes is a more respectful/culturally approved thing to do :???: :roll:

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hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
Well- everyone has different ways of showing respect for folks they meet/greet... I was always taught to nod to my elders when shaking hands- and tipping my hat to the ladies- but each area has differing customs...

I don't see Obama's bowing as any major conspiracy to take over the world....

Funny how soon we forget about GW following the kissing custom of some areas.... (Especially when the Bush/Cheney backed oil cartels were ripping us off with profiteering)...
So kissing and holding hands with rich oil country Princes is a more respectful/culturally approved thing to do :???: :roll:

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so cheek kissing was a Saudi custom, when Bush was President? But now it is customary to bow to them?





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Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Well- everyone has different ways of showing respect for folks they meet/greet... I was always taught to nod to my elders when shaking hands- and tipping my hat to the ladies- but each area has differing customs...

I don't see Obama's bowing as any major conspiracy to take over the world....

Funny how soon we forget about GW following the kissing custom of some areas.... (Especially when the Bush/Cheney backed oil cartels were ripping us off with profiteering)...
So kissing and holding hands with rich oil country Princes is a more respectful/culturally approved thing to do :???: :roll:

President Barack Obama Broke U.S. Protocol and Bowed to Saudi King During G20 Summit
By Julie Kent. Published on 04/08/2009 - 10:33pm


Upon returning home from his 8-day tour of Europe and the Middle East, President Barack Obama has been greeted with some pretty harsh criticism over photographs and video footage which show him bowing to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia during the G20 Summit. While the mainstream media has largely ignored this major political gaffe, it has not gone unnoticed.

The Washington Times called the bow a "shocking display of fealty to a foreign potentate", which runs contrary to a long-held American tradition of not deferring to royalty.

The Times continued:

"By bending over to show greater respect to Islam, the US president belittled the power and independence of the United States. Such an act is a traditional obeisance befitting a king's subjects, not his peer. There is no precedent for U.S. presidents bowing to Saudi or any other royals."

One can't help but wonder why Obama did not bow to Queen Elizabeth when meeting with her in England, but saw it befitting to show reverence to the royal head of a Muslim nation that is the home of 15 of the 19 September 11th terrorists.

The Weekly Standard reiterated the tradition, stating:

"American presidents do not bow before foreign dignitaries, whether they are princes, kings, or emperors."

The White House has denied that President Obama bowed to the King, however photographs suggest otherwise. One Obama aide spoke anonymously to Politico.com, stating:

"It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah."

Many have dismissed that excuse as absurd. Getty Images had even captioned a photo of the gesture as him "bowing".

The Saudis themselves believe it to have been a bow. Muhammah Diyab, a commentator for a Saudi paper, approved of Obama's gesture and says that he saw it as a clear blow:

"Obama wished to demonstrate his respect and appreciation of the personality of King Abdullah Bin Abdulaziz, who has made one of the most important calls in the modern era, namely the call for interfaith and intercultural dialogue to defuse the hatred, conflict and wars".

As many times as the Obama administration might like to deny that the President bowed to the King of a foreign nation, pictures don't lie, and neither do videos. Enough were taken that we are able to see the gesture from multiple angles. Such a low "stoop" could not simply be chalked up to a difference in height.

Look at the picture he plainly bowed Oldtimer :roll: but when asked about it the White House thought they needed to cover up the fact he broke Historical American Protocol BY LIEING about it. If he was not doing something wrong according to Protocol why the need to LIE ABOUT IT?

And if the US PRESIDENT is not to bow according to Presidentual Protocol to Royality then WHAT IS HE DOING BOWING TO GOVERNORS AND MAJORS? Face it the guy has a problem and he is embarrassing anyone with a bit of American Price and self respect which seems to leave you out :roll: .
 

Tam

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Steve said:
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Obama bows to NJ gov.. :?

I have to wonder if Obama was really bowing to Christie or winsing in pain while Christie was squeezing his hand and telling him "If I can take on the Unions for the good of my state you can take them on for the good of the nation RIGHT" :wink:
 
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Tam said:
Steve said:
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Obama bows to NJ gov.. :?

I have to wonder if Obama was really bowing to Christie or winsing in pain while Christie was squeezing his hand and telling him "If I can take on the Unions for the good of my state you can take them on for the good of the nation RIGHT" :wink:

Sounds like another good "conspiracist theory"-- play it up- my Reynolds shares haven't been slipping a little lately :wink: :lol: :lol:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Steve said:
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Obama bows to NJ gov.. :?

I have to wonder if Obama was really bowing to Christie or winsing in pain while Christie was squeezing his hand and telling him "If I can take on the Unions for the good of my state you can take them on for the good of the nation RIGHT" :wink:

Sounds like another good "conspiracist theory"-- play it up- my Reynolds shares haven't been slipping a little lately :wink: :lol: :lol:

Gee I noticed you slipped right over the post that stated Obama Broke Protocol and LIED ABOUT IT Oldtimer Why is that? Could it be you can't handle the truth? :wink: DENIAL is a great thing but sooner or later you have to face the facts. :wink:
 
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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
I have to wonder if Obama was really bowing to Christie or winsing in pain while Christie was squeezing his hand and telling him "If I can take on the Unions for the good of my state you can take them on for the good of the nation RIGHT" :wink:

Sounds like another good "conspiracist theory"-- play it up- my Reynolds shares haven't been slipping a little lately :wink: :lol: :lol:

Gee I noticed you slipped right over the post that stated Obama Broke Protocol and LIED ABOUT IT Oldtimer Why is that? Could it be you can't handle the truth? :wink: DENIAL is a great thing but sooner or later you have to face the facts. :wink:

Well Tam- I'm kind of an "outside the box" thinker- and do what I think/have been taught personally is respectful... Maybe tipping my hat to a lady is not PC anymore - but its what I think is respectful- same as nodding my head/lowering my eyes to someone older than me- or someone I want to show respect to when shaking hands... Something I was brought up with....

As an old body language student if you want to create a tight situation- and standoff- you cross your arms, your legs and stare at the person...And thats about where the whole meeting sets at thereafter :(

Doesn't accomplish much......

And I do believe the President of the United States should try to set an open tone with world leaders- and be the trend setter/protocol setter for what is PC in the world--- altho GW's kissing and handholding with the Crown Prince when folks were paying $4 for gasoline was a bit much :roll: ....

Too me in D.C. now we need a little more bowing (and bending) and less partisan politics- and more statesman looking at the future of the country than politicians looking at the future of their reelection....
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Sounds like another good "conspiracist theory"-- play it up- my Reynolds shares haven't been slipping a little lately :wink: :lol: :lol:

Gee I noticed you slipped right over the post that stated Obama Broke Protocol and LIED ABOUT IT Oldtimer Why is that? Could it be you can't handle the truth? :wink: DENIAL is a great thing but sooner or later you have to face the facts. :wink:

Well Tam- I'm kind of an "outside the box" thinker- and do what I think/have been taught personally is respectful... Maybe tipping my hat to a lady is not PC anymore - but its what I think is respectful- same as nodding my head/lowering my eyes to someone older than me- or someone I want to show respect to when shaking hands... Something I was brought up with....

As an old body language student if you want to create a tight situation- and standoff- you cross your arms, your legs and stare at the person...And thats about where the whole meeting sets at thereafter :(

Doesn't accomplish much......

And I do believe the President of the United States should try to set an open tone with world leaders- and be the trend setter/protocol setter for what is PC in the world--- altho GW's kissing and handholding with the Crown Prince when folks were paying $4 for gasoline was a bit much :roll: ....

Too me in D.C. now we need a little more bowing (and bending) and less partisan politics- and more statesman looking at the future of the country than politicians looking at the future of their reelection....

That's all well and good Oldtimer do what you think you must but this is not about you or any other common man on the street This is about the President of the United States and the PROPER PROTOCOL he is to follow out of RESPECT FOR HIS COUNTRY AND IT"S CITIZENS. Protocol that makes him look like a POWERFUL STATESMAN not a subservient fool.

By not following said HISTORICAL PROTOCOL, it causes an embarrassment to his citizens and in the case of the UK, when he and his Wife broke protocol dealing with THEIR QUEEN, it offended the BRITS, one of the US greatest allies.

But since you seem to think Obama was right in bowing and that he himself felt he did the right thing by breaking protocol, WHY DID THE WHITE HOUSE LIE AND SAY HE DIDN"T BOW? :?

Or do you really believe you have to bend so far over that the shorter guy you are shaking the hand of can see the back of your head. :roll:
 

hopalong

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oldtimer is great at missing facts, especially when he is making tinfoil hats for him self and little tinfoil stars to wear as badges along with his tinfoil gun
 

Steve

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OldTimer said:
and do what I think/have been taught personally is respectful... Maybe tipping my hat to a lady is not PC anymore - but its what I think is respectful- same as nodding my head/lowering my eyes to someone older than me- or someone I want to show respect to when shaking hands... Something I was brought up with....

you actually nailed the problem right on the head... thank you..

( as Americans we have subtle ways of showing respect, and most of that is learned in our early years, )

Obama was not raised in this country during his formative years... it is why he does what he does,.. he didn't do the Pledge of Allegiance from Kindergarten and on.. he didn't learn how to show respect with out lowering oneself.

one could say his actions are a better reflection of the Indonesian culture then American.. :shock:
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Well- everyone has different ways of showing respect for folks they meet/greet... I was always taught to nod to my elders when shaking hands- and tipping my hat to the ladies- but each area has differing customs...

I don't see Obama's bowing as any major conspiracy to take over the world....

Funny how soon we forget about GW following the kissing custom of some areas.... (Especially when the Bush/Cheney backed oil cartels were ripping us off with profiteering)...
So kissing and holding hands with rich oil country Princes is a more respectful/culturally approved thing to do :???: :roll:

And I see OT continues to argue points that no one made. You never disappoint, you senile old fart.
 
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