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nonothing

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TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran has condemned U.S. Republican presidential candidate John McCain for joking about killing Iranians with cigarettes and said it showed his "warmongering" foreign policy attitude, media said on Sunday.

McCain, who once sang in jest about bombing Iran, on Tuesday reacted to a report of rising U.S. cigarette exports to the Islamic Republic by saying it may be "a way of killing 'em."


Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini said: "McCain's crude remark on the indiscriminate killing of the Iranian nation not only testifies to his disturbed state of mind, but also to his warmongering approach to foreign policy."


In a statement quoted by the website of Iran's state Press TV satellite station, Hosseini added:


"We condemn such jokes and believe them to be inappropriate for a U.S. presidential candidate. It is most evident that jokes about genocide will not be tolerated by Iranians or Americans."


McCain, known for acerbic comments and for sometimes firing verbally from the hip, was responding to a report that U.S. exports to Iran rose tenfold during President George W. Bush's term in office despite hostility between the two countries.


A rise in cigarette sales was a big part of that, according to an Associated Press analysis.


"Maybe that's a way of killing 'em," McCain said to reporters during a campaign stop in Pittsburgh. "I meant that as a joke, as a person who hasn't had a cigarette in 28 years, 29 years," he added, laughing.


His comments coincided with rising tension between Iran and its arch-foes, the United States and Israel, over the Islamic Republic's disputed nuclear program.


U.S. leaders have not ruled out military options if diplomacy fails to assuage fears about Iran's nuclear work, which they suspect is aimed at making bombs but which Tehran says is only to produce electricity.


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080713/us/politics_iran_mccain_cigarettes_dc_1
 
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Anonymous

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Stupid...While it might be a neat thing to say amongst some buddies- its a stupid thing for someone who wants to be a world leader to say in public...

Especially at a time when the country is trying to convince the world that we are not at war with the Muslim religion or out to kill every Muslim in the world--but only the radical terrorists....Bad enough the name of the country is now associated with torture and illegal and inhumane treatment of prisoners- which is causing some countries (Italy) to hold trials in abstentia against US officials, while others are debating not allowing the extradition of prisoners (UK) to the US because of the evidence of our violation of International Law.... :(

McSame has the same problem as his Montana campaign chairman ex-Senator Conman Burns had- diarrea of the mouth....
 

Sandhusker

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The Iranians march through the streets shouting "Death to the USA" and then get upset over a cigarette crack? You gotta be kidding me.... McCain ought to point that out to them.

I would think that is much more harmless than what Barry had to say, "...they don't pose a serious threat to us". THAT is the comment on Iran that should trouble you.
 

Mike

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Sandhusker said:
The Iranians march through the streets shouting "Death to the USA" and then get upset over a cigarette crack? You gotta be kidding me.... McCain ought to point that out to them.

I would think that is much more harmless than what Barry had to say, "...they don't pose a serious threat to us". THAT is the comment on Iran that should trouble you.

Really Sandhusker. Ahmadinejad (sp?) calls for the annhiliation of the USA and Israel and McCain gets scolded for making that joke?

OT and his PC crowd have lost it.

They would surely be scolding Patton and McArthur had some of their statements been made today. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

aplusmnt

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I love the comment, anything that makes the Iranians worried about us works for me. You can bet they are rooting for Obama to win, and that is proof positive as to why we should want McCain instead of Obama.

Why would a person vote for the candidate that most of all our enemies would prefer?
 

nonothing

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Sandhusker said:
The Iranians march through the streets shouting "Death to the USA" and then get upset over a cigarette crack? You gotta be kidding me.... McCain ought to point that out to them.

I would think that is much more harmless than what Barry had to say, "...they don't pose a serious threat to us". THAT is the comment on Iran that should trouble you.


For a guy who spouts ofF about credibilty and good christian living you sure flip flop alot..Why would you not want your leader to show respect and dencency no matter what he thinks.......Just because these people are barbians and lack education,why would you want your leader to stoop to that level of ignorance....

Sandhusker,I find the way you come across here as a big time flip flopper,if McCain does something you find resoans for it to be ok....Your raeson is because the street thugs of Iran yell stupid uneducated and ignorant remarks, so that makes it ok with you that your leader does the same thing in .....I thoght you to be more of a stand up guy who would think that being the better person would in the end comand more respect....

Also would it not make more sense to annouce your enemy to be no threat rather then tip your hand and let him know your on to him?...Sometimes hiding facts from your enemy is a stategic and covert decision..Maybe Patton would be saying well done,now lets watch these boys and take them when they least expect it....Why tell them you are comming,to invade thier country.look how well that worked in Iraq...Maybe Obama is just smarter then the last guy in charge of your millitary invasions?
 

fff

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Mike said:
They would surely be scolding Patton and McArthur had some of their statements been made today. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Patton and MacArthur WERE scolded for some of their comments even during their own day. You need to find a better example if you have a point to make. :lol:
 

Mike

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fff said:
Mike said:
They would surely be scolding Patton and McArthur had some of their statements been made today. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Patton and MacArthur WERE scolded for some of their comments even during their own day. You need to find a better example if you have a point to make. :lol:

You have made my point exactly. They were scolded at the time but their statements usually turned out to be spot-on and correct after the dust settled.

Examples:

Patton was correct about Russia, and McArthur was correct about China.
 

fff

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Mike said:
fff said:
Mike said:
They would surely be scolding Patton and McArthur had some of their statements been made today. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Patton and MacArthur WERE scolded for some of their comments even during their own day. You need to find a better example if you have a point to make. :lol:

You have made my point exactly. They were scolded at the time but their statements usually turned out to be spot-on and correct after the dust settled.

Examples:

Patton was correct about Russia, and McArthur was correct about China.

Spin, spin, spin. You said what you said. :
 

backhoeboogie

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fff said:
Mike said:
fff said:
Patton and MacArthur WERE scolded for some of their comments even during their own day. You need to find a better example if you have a point to make. :lol:

You have made my point exactly. They were scolded at the time but their statements usually turned out to be spot-on and correct after the dust settled.

Examples:

Patton was correct about Russia, and McArthur was correct about China.

Spin, spin, spin. You said what you said. :

funny that they are both still quoted quite often
 

Sandhusker

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nonothing said:
Sandhusker said:
The Iranians march through the streets shouting "Death to the USA" and then get upset over a cigarette crack? You gotta be kidding me.... McCain ought to point that out to them.

I would think that is much more harmless than what Barry had to say, "...they don't pose a serious threat to us". THAT is the comment on Iran that should trouble you.


For a guy who spouts ofF about credibilty and good christian living you sure flip flop alot..Why would you not want your leader to show respect and dencency no matter what he thinks.......Just because these people are barbians and lack education,why would you want your leader to stoop to that level of ignorance....

Sandhusker,I find the way you come across here as a big time flip flopper,if McCain does something you find resoans for it to be ok....Your raeson is because the street thugs of Iran yell stupid uneducated and ignorant remarks, so that makes it ok with you that your leader does the same thing in .....I thoght you to be more of a stand up guy who would think that being the better person would in the end comand more respect....

Also would it not make more sense to annouce your enemy to be no threat rather then tip your hand and let him know your on to him?...Sometimes hiding facts from your enemy is a stategic and covert decision..Maybe Patton would be saying well done,now lets watch these boys and take them when they least expect it....Why tell them you are comming,to invade thier country.look how well that worked in Iraq...Maybe Obama is just smarter then the last guy in charge of your millitary invasions?

I take the context of McCain's remark as it was intended to be taken, a wisecrack, nothing more.

You think Obama was just wisely not tipping his hand? What was he doing when he also said, "Iran is a great threat, it has an illicit nuclear program, it supports terrorism...." ?

How crafty is this Obama guy now?
 
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Anonymous

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Yeah- you and I know its a wisecrack like we hear in the bar all the time-but when a world leader says it, in a public forum, its different...Many of these parliaments and governments love to use things just like this as a reason/excuse to shirk their duties and to distance themselves from the US- or to slam us...

Like I said- its bad enough we have officials under trial for crimes associated with this war now- and quite possibly will have some top officials indicted for war crimes, which will smear the newspapers with anti American rhetoric for years..

Maybe comments like this are why we have to send 3 more brigades of US troops to Afghanistan-because many of the other Nato nations refuse to...

Is getting a couple of rednecks votes worth putting out a false image of the country :???:
 

Sandhusker

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If he would of made that crack about our England, Germany, Canada, etc....., I'd say he needs to quit trying to be a comedian. But, when it's about a country that promotes anti-US demonstrations, funds terrorism, denies the Holocaust, etc... I say it's a small taste of their own medicine and sends the message that we're not buying their BS - that's a message those rag-heads need to hear.

McCain isn't going to damage any relations, there isn't any relations to damage, and Iraq doesn't want any with us. I applaud him for spitting in their eye, they need it. It's a better thing that what BarryO is going to do - show up at their door hat in hand with flowers and a bottle of wine. The Iraquis will eat that idiot alive. You don't think there is a reason that the Arabs are hoping he wins? I'll assure you that they don't have OUR best interests at heart.
 

CattleArmy

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Sandhusker said:
nonothing said:
Sandhusker said:
The Iranians march through the streets shouting "Death to the USA" and then get upset over a cigarette crack? You gotta be kidding me.... McCain ought to point that out to them.

I would think that is much more harmless than what Barry had to say, "...they don't pose a serious threat to us". THAT is the comment on Iran that should trouble you.


For a guy who spouts ofF about credibilty and good christian living you sure flip flop alot..Why would you not want your leader to show respect and dencency no matter what he thinks.......Just because these people are barbians and lack education,why would you want your leader to stoop to that level of ignorance....

Sandhusker,I find the way you come across here as a big time flip flopper,if McCain does something you find resoans for it to be ok....Your raeson is because the street thugs of Iran yell stupid uneducated and ignorant remarks, so that makes it ok with you that your leader does the same thing in .....I thoght you to be more of a stand up guy who would think that being the better person would in the end comand more respect....

Also would it not make more sense to annouce your enemy to be no threat rather then tip your hand and let him know your on to him?...Sometimes hiding facts from your enemy is a stategic and covert decision..Maybe Patton would be saying well done,now lets watch these boys and take them when they least expect it....Why tell them you are comming,to invade thier country.look how well that worked in Iraq...Maybe Obama is just smarter then the last guy in charge of your millitary invasions?

I take the context of McCain's remark as it was intended to be taken, a wisecrack, nothing more.

You think Obama was just wisely not tipping his hand? What was he doing when he also said, "Iran is a great threat, it has an illicit nuclear program, it supports terrorism...." ?

How crafty is this Obama guy now?

Someone trying to get a job as important as president of the United States be professional enough to know when to not comment. Wise cracks aren't professional.
 

RobertMac

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CA said:
Someone trying to get a job as important as president of the United States be professional enough to know when to not comment. Wise cracks aren't professional.
Someone trying to get a job as important as president of the United States should have some experience and not be elected because the drive-by media portrays him as a rock star!

OT, proof you have lost it...how many wise cracks did President Reagan make about the Soviet Union??????????? Where is the Soviet Union NOW????????

Truman should have turned General Patton and General MacArthur lose and let them meet on the Great Wall of China!!!!!
 

CattleArmy

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RobertMac said:
CA said:
Someone trying to get a job as important as president of the United States be professional enough to know when to not comment. Wise cracks aren't professional.
Someone trying to get a job as important as president of the United States should have some experience and not be elected because the drive-by media portrays him as a rock star!

You are right about voting because he is protrayed as a rock star shouldn't be the reason a person votes for any individual. But wise cracks aren't appropriate for professional people. Shows a lack of professionalism.
 

Sandhusker

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Like, RM said, look how many cracks Reagan made on the Soviet Union - even slid an "Evil Empire in there".

McCain cracking on the Iranians shows that he's not afraid of them and probably doesn't think real highly of them - a message they need to hear. It also shows that he's got a sense of humor, a personality, and doesn't have a rod up his arse - basically that he's not Al Gore.
 

CattleArmy

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Sandhusker said:
Like, RM said, look how many cracks Reagan made on the Soviet Union - even slid an "Evil Empire in there".

McCain cracking on the Iranians shows that he's not afraid of them and probably doesn't think real highly of them - a message they need to hear. It also shows that he's got a sense of humor, a personality, and doesn't have a rod up his arse - basically that he's not Al Gore.

I'm not worried about the guy running the country I live in having a sense of humor. I'm concerned with how he handles pressure and if he shows the triats of a leader I can be comfortable with having power. I'm concerned with how his agendas fit in with issue importance to me. (Yes really it is all about me :D :) :) .)
 

Sandhusker

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CattleArmy said:
Sandhusker said:
Like, RM said, look how many cracks Reagan made on the Soviet Union - even slid an "Evil Empire in there".

McCain cracking on the Iranians shows that he's not afraid of them and probably doesn't think real highly of them - a message they need to hear. It also shows that he's got a sense of humor, a personality, and doesn't have a rod up his arse - basically that he's not Al Gore.

I'm not worried about the guy running the country I live in having a sense of humor. I'm concerned with how he handles pressure and if he shows the triats of a leader I can be comfortable with having power. I'm concerned with how his agendas fit in with issue importance to me. (Yes really it is all about me :D :) :) .)

Take a look at how Obama handled that Rev. Wright deal and ask yourself if those are the traits that you want in a leader. Myself, I'm not real fond of being looked in the eye and lied to.
 

kolanuraven

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Sandhusker said:
CattleArmy said:
Sandhusker said:
Like, RM said, look how many cracks Reagan made on the Soviet Union - even slid an "Evil Empire in there".

McCain cracking on the Iranians shows that he's not afraid of them and probably doesn't think real highly of them - a message they need to hear. It also shows that he's got a sense of humor, a personality, and doesn't have a rod up his arse - basically that he's not Al Gore.

I'm not worried about the guy running the country I live in having a sense of humor. I'm concerned with how he handles pressure and if he shows the triats of a leader I can be comfortable with having power. I'm concerned with how his agendas fit in with issue importance to me. (Yes really it is all about me :D :) :) .)

Take a look at how Obama handled that Rev. Wright deal and ask yourself if those are the traits that you want in a leader. Myself, I'm not real fond of being looked in the eye and lied to.


You should. You prob do it every AM when you look in the mirror.
 
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