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WHEELS COME OFF STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS?

fff

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From NBC's Mark Murray
For a candidate who prides himself in "straight talk" -- and whose political image in part is based on that truth-telling reputation -- Saturday proved to be a brutal day for John McCain and his campaign.

First came a front-page New York Times piece noting that McCain "has drawn an avalanche of criticism this week from Democrats, independent groups and even some Republicans for regularly stretching the truth." There was also an accompanying fact-check of McCain's latest TV ad, which called it the "latest in a number that resort to a dubious disregard for the facts."

The Washington Post gave "four Pinnochios" to McCain's recent assertion on "The View" that Palin never took earmarks as Alaska governor. Then the Boston Globe reported that Palin didn't really travel inside Iraq as has been claimed. And Bloomberg News said that the McCain camp may not have been exactly truthful in estimating the size of its recent crowds. "Now officials say they can't substantiate the figures McCain's aides are claiming."

To top it off, McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said this to the Politico about the increased media scrutiny of the campaign's factual claims: "We’re running a campaign to win. And we’re not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it.”

Not surprisingly, the Obama camp has pounced on all this, issuing a memo to reporters entitled "Unraveling the myth of the Straight Talk Express." The memo argues, "Since naming Governor Palin as their vice presidential nominee, the McCain campaign has distorted, distracted, and outright lied to the American people about her record in a desperate attempt to hide the fact that a McCain/Palin Administration would be nothing more than a continuation of the failed Bush policies of the last eight years."

And it concludes, "While the media is slowly starting to call the McCain campaign on their dishonest tactics, McCain’s staff boasts that they don’t care. As a McCain spokesman told the Politico, 'We’re running a campaign to win. And we’re not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it.'"

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/13/1393986.aspx
 

alice

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fff said:
From NBC's Mark Murray
For a candidate who prides himself in "straight talk" -- and whose political image in part is based on that truth-telling reputation -- Saturday proved to be a brutal day for John McCain and his campaign.

First came a front-page New York Times piece noting that McCain "has drawn an avalanche of criticism this week from Democrats, independent groups and even some Republicans for regularly stretching the truth." There was also an accompanying fact-check of McCain's latest TV ad, which called it the "latest in a number that resort to a dubious disregard for the facts."

The Washington Post gave "four Pinnochios" to McCain's recent assertion on "The View" that Palin never took earmarks as Alaska governor. Then the Boston Globe reported that Palin didn't really travel inside Iraq as has been claimed. And Bloomberg News said that the McCain camp may not have been exactly truthful in estimating the size of its recent crowds. "Now officials say they can't substantiate the figures McCain's aides are claiming."

To top it off, McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said this to the Politico about the increased media scrutiny of the campaign's factual claims: "We’re running a campaign to win. And we’re not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it.”

Not surprisingly, the Obama camp has pounced on all this, issuing a memo to reporters entitled "Unraveling the myth of the Straight Talk Express." The memo argues, "Since naming Governor Palin as their vice presidential nominee, the McCain campaign has distorted, distracted, and outright lied to the American people about her record in a desperate attempt to hide the fact that a McCain/Palin Administration would be nothing more than a continuation of the failed Bush policies of the last eight years."

And it concludes, "While the media is slowly starting to call the McCain campaign on their dishonest tactics, McCain’s staff boasts that they don’t care. As a McCain spokesman told the Politico, 'We’re running a campaign to win. And we’re not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it.'"

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/13/1393986.aspx


And it concludes, "While the media is slowly starting to call the McCain campaign on their dishonest tactics, McCain’s staff boasts that they don’t care. As a McCain spokesman told the Politico, 'We’re running a campaign to win. And we’re not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it.'"
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No surprise there...

Alice
 

jigs

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does it matter? the media will print or say what ever they want, and spin everything to make Barak Osama look like the best choice.

the media wants him to win I have a pic of the Barak Osama victory party, but fear it is too racial. hell all mike did was post a watermellon and it cause a battle!
 

aplusmnt

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alice said:
fff said:
From NBC's Mark Murray
For a candidate who prides himself in "straight talk" -- and whose political image in part is based on that truth-telling reputation -- Saturday proved to be a brutal day for John McCain and his campaign.

First came a front-page New York Times piece noting that McCain "has drawn an avalanche of criticism this week from Democrats, independent groups and even some Republicans for regularly stretching the truth." There was also an accompanying fact-check of McCain's latest TV ad, which called it the "latest in a number that resort to a dubious disregard for the facts."

The Washington Post gave "four Pinnochios" to McCain's recent assertion on "The View" that Palin never took earmarks as Alaska governor. Then the Boston Globe reported that Palin didn't really travel inside Iraq as has been claimed. And Bloomberg News said that the McCain camp may not have been exactly truthful in estimating the size of its recent crowds. "Now officials say they can't substantiate the figures McCain's aides are claiming."

To top it off, McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said this to the Politico about the increased media scrutiny of the campaign's factual claims: "We’re running a campaign to win. And we’re not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it.”

Not surprisingly, the Obama camp has pounced on all this, issuing a memo to reporters entitled "Unraveling the myth of the Straight Talk Express." The memo argues, "Since naming Governor Palin as their vice presidential nominee, the McCain campaign has distorted, distracted, and outright lied to the American people about her record in a desperate attempt to hide the fact that a McCain/Palin Administration would be nothing more than a continuation of the failed Bush policies of the last eight years."

And it concludes, "While the media is slowly starting to call the McCain campaign on their dishonest tactics, McCain’s staff boasts that they don’t care. As a McCain spokesman told the Politico, 'We’re running a campaign to win. And we’re not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it.'"

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/13/1393986.aspx


And it concludes, "While the media is slowly starting to call the McCain campaign on their dishonest tactics, McCain’s staff boasts that they don’t care. As a McCain spokesman told the Politico, 'We’re running a campaign to win. And we’re not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it.'"
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No surprise there...

Alice

Alice, you remembered your your password huh? Was that not the reason you posted with so many different names in just a couple days last time, you could not remember your password so you made all them Alicess? :lol:
 
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aplusmnt said:
alice said:
fff said:
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No surprise there...

Alice

Alice, you remembered your your password huh? Was that not the reason you posted with so many different names in just a couple days last time, you could not remember your password so you made all them Alicess? :lol:

:???:

A+-- you drinking tequila again with Larrrry and Hoppy ?
 

fff

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Alice, don't you love it when the only response they have is a personal attack? Makes me smile every time. :D :D
 

alice

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fff said:
Alice, don't you love it when the only response they have is a personal attack? Makes me smile every time. :D :D

Admittedly, it can be somewhat humorous. It used to disappoint me, but I've come to expect it...so, now I simply ignore it.

Alice
 
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alice said:
fff said:
Alice, don't you love it when the only response they have is a personal attack? Makes me smile every time. :D :D

Admittedly, it can be somewhat humorous. It used to disappoint me, but I've come to expect it...so, now I simply ignore it.

Alice

Yep- Alice-- you put 2 posts on here and you are attacked- while some of the attackers hide under 5-6-12 alias's- to multiple attack you under their fictitious names-and slap themselves on the back--- and they call you the "bad" one :roll: :???: :wink: :lol:

Most of them ain't got the backbone of a spider...
 

VanC

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fff said:
Alice, don't you love it when the only response they have is a personal attack? Makes me smile every time. :D :D

Me, too. According to Rasmussen Reports, on the day Palin was announced as McCain's running mate, Obama was ahead 51-45 nationwide and 193-183 in the electoral college. As of this morning, McCain was ahead 50-47 and 200-193. Coincidence?

So keep those personal attacks against Palin and her family coming, folks. They're really helping your cause. :roll: Heck, at this point the McCain campaign could just sit back and watch as the yappers and their media lackeys win the election for them. :lol:
 

aplusmnt

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fff said:
Alice, don't you love it when the only response they have is a personal attack? Makes me smile every time. :D :D

She has not said anything yet to be attacked on! All she has did was pat you on the back for your post. Believe me she is welcome to actually do some typing and let us all know what she feels. Instead of just confirming two post by you! The Girl can type I have seen her do so let them fingers lose and type some political responses!

I would be very interested in hearing what she things of Governor Palin as the next VP!

And as for the crack to her, she is the one that tried to be secretive last time she came on here with multiple Id's. And then ran and did not come back when she was called on it! Hopefully she has worked up her nerve a little and will discuss some of them subjects.
 

alice

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aplusmnt said:
fff said:
Alice, don't you love it when the only response they have is a personal attack? Makes me smile every time. :D :D

She has not said anything yet to be attacked on! All she has did was pat you on the back for your post. Believe me she is welcome to actually do some typing and let us all know what she feels. Instead of just confirming two post by you! The Girl can type I have seen her do so let them fingers lose and type some political responses!

I would be very interested in hearing what she things of Governor Palin as the next VP!

And as for the crack to her, she is the one that tried to be secretive last time she came on here with multiple Id's. And then ran and did not come back when she was called on it! Hopefully she has worked up her nerve a little and will discuss some of them subjects.

You call what goes on here discussion? :lol:

What do I think of Palin? I don't think she's nearly as dangerous as Cheney. I think she was picked for absolutely political reasons, not on her accomplishments or merits. I find that somewhat insulting to her. I think she is being used and will ultimately be abused by McCain and his machine. And, I have no intention of adding my vote to that ticket.

Alice
 

hopalong

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Sandhusker said:
And Obama was chosen for his accomplishment and merits?
Oh yes. and llook at all the blogs that have him being the savior, plus ask Oldtimer he knows it all!!!
Don't believe it just ask him, :roll: :roll: Besides he is a moderator he has the right to pick and chose who posts and what!!
But rumor has it that may not be for much longer! :roll:
As far as Ailce goes she is from cattlemans and you can see her posts there are much the same as the ones she has posted here!
 
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McCain ad slams Obama, Senate Democrats on immigration
(CNN) – John McCain’s campaign is running a Spanish language ad in battleground states that blames Barack Obama and Senate Democrats for the failure of attempts to overhaul the nation’s immigration laws — even though the Republican nominee and his Democratic counterpart cast identical votes in the key Senate showdowns on that issue last year

“Obama and his congressional allies say they are on the side of immigrants. But are they?” asks the announcer in the 30-second spot, “Which Side Are They On?”

“The press reports that their efforts were ‘poison pills’ that made immigration reform fail,” he continues. “The result: No guest worker program. No path to citizenship. No secure borders. No reform. Is that being on our side? Obama and his Congressional allies ready to block immigration reform, but not ready to lead.”

But Obama and McCain cast identical votes in the major congressional showdowns on the issue last year. Both men cast votes in favor of an unsuccessful early June effort to end a filibuster. Later that month, they voted again to end debate on the issue – but again failed to shut down the filibuster effort, led for the most part by Republican senators…


http://getdrunkandvote4mccain.com/
 

aplusmnt

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alice said:
aplusmnt said:
fff said:
Alice, don't you love it when the only response they have is a personal attack? Makes me smile every time. :D :D

She has not said anything yet to be attacked on! All she has did was pat you on the back for your post. Believe me she is welcome to actually do some typing and let us all know what she feels. Instead of just confirming two post by you! The Girl can type I have seen her do so let them fingers lose and type some political responses!

I would be very interested in hearing what she things of Governor Palin as the next VP!

And as for the crack to her, she is the one that tried to be secretive last time she came on here with multiple Id's. And then ran and did not come back when she was called on it! Hopefully she has worked up her nerve a little and will discuss some of them subjects.

You call what goes on here discussion? :lol:

What do I think of Palin? I don't think she's nearly as dangerous as Cheney. I think she was picked for absolutely political reasons, not on her accomplishments or merits. I find that somewhat insulting to her. I think she is being used and will ultimately be abused by McCain and his machine. And, I have no intention of adding my vote to that ticket.

Alice

If you do not like our discourse then why come around?

Now to discuss the content of your comment! I agree she was picked for political reasons, just like every other VP in history! As for McCain when has his machine through anyone under the bus, you know like Obama did his preacher and his grandmother and a few others?

Palin may have been selected for political reasons, but that does not make her a good choice. As for being as dangerous as Cheney? I would love some more discussion as to why you think this women you never heard of before would be as dangerous as a true political machine like Cheney?
 

alice

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before everyone gets all excited about my last post being edited 2 times...I had it right the first time...just read what I wrote wrong...and put it back like it was...or something like that. My bad...:oops:

Alice
 

alice

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aplusmnt said:
alice said:
aplusmnt said:
She has not said anything yet to be attacked on! All she has did was pat you on the back for your post. Believe me she is welcome to actually do some typing and let us all know what she feels. Instead of just confirming two post by you! The Girl can type I have seen her do so let them fingers lose and type some political responses!

I would be very interested in hearing what she things of Governor Palin as the next VP!

And as for the crack to her, she is the one that tried to be secretive last time she came on here with multiple Id's. And then ran and did not come back when she was called on it! Hopefully she has worked up her nerve a little and will discuss some of them subjects.

You call what goes on here discussion? :lol:

What do I think of Palin? I don't think she's nearly as dangerous as Cheney. I think she was picked for absolutely political reasons, not on her accomplishments or merits. I find that somewhat insulting to her. I think she is being used and will ultimately be abused by McCain and his machine. And, I have no intention of adding my vote to that ticket.

Alice

If you do not like our discourse then why come around?

Now to discuss the content of your comment! I agree she was picked for political reasons, just like every other VP in history! As for McCain when has his machine through anyone under the bus, you know like Obama did his preacher and his grandmother and a few others?

Palin may have been selected for political reasons, but that does not make her a good choice. As for being as dangerous as Cheney? I would love some more discussion as to why you think this women you never heard of before would be as dangerous as a true political machine like Cheney?

If you do not like our discourse then why come around?

'Cause I feel like it.

As for being as dangerous as Cheney? I would love some more discussion as to why you think this women you never heard of before would be as dangerous as a true political machine like Cheney?

I believe I said I don't believe she's as dangerous as Cheney...

Alice
 
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