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When Obama loses, will their be riots?

aplusmnt

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Been wondering how serious things may get once Obama loses the election? Look at some of the riots that have been caused after minorities did not get the outcome they wanted. Like the Rodney King riots.

I wonder what odds there are that when Obama loses their will be riots across the U.S. in protest.
 

nonothing

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aplusmnt said:
Been wondering how serious things may get once Obama loses the election? Look at some of the riots that have been caused after minorities did not get the outcome they wanted. Like the Rodney King riots.

I wonder what odds there are that when Obama loses their will be riots across the U.S. in protest.

You wont have to worry Aplus....Obama is not going to lose... :wink:
 

Yanuck

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I hope not and I also hope that there isn't anymore of this BS either.....


Obama effigy found hanging from campus tree
School leaders, students express outrage at 'overt racial act'

updated 5:27 p.m. MT, Wed., Sept. 24, 2008
NEWBERG, Ore. - Students and school leaders at a small Christian university expressed outrage Wednesday at the discovery of a life-size cardboard effigy of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama hanging from a tree on campus.

A custodian at George Fox University discovered the effigy early Tuesday and immediately removed it, President Robin Baker said. University spokesman Rob Felton said Wednesday that the commercially produced reproduction had been suspended from the branch of a tree near Minthorn Hall with fishing line around the neck.

The hanging of the effigy around the neck is seen as racist symbolism because it harkens back to lynchings of black men by white mobs, especially in the U.S. South, decades ago. Obama is aiming to become America's first black president.


"We will not tolerate such displays and condemn it in the strongest terms," Baker said. "George Fox University is committed to becoming a place that more broadly represents the Kingdom of God — a place where students from diverse backgrounds come together to live out the teachings of Jesus in our world."

Taped to the cardboard cutout of Obama was a sign that read "Act Six reject." Act Six is a scholarship program geared toward increasing the number of minority and low-income students at several Christian colleges, mostly in the Northwest.

The school has 17 students in the program, whose name derives from the New Testament book of Acts. All but one are members of minority groups, Felton said.

Students in the program receive full scholarships and are selected on the basis of leadership potential.

'Disheartened and outraged'
Baker met with the students in the Act Six program late Tuesday and addressed the student body Wednesday at the school's regular chapel service.

Baker told students he was "disheartened and outraged."

"It has been my dream to establish a university that more adequately represents the kingdom of God," he said. "This act causes some to question our commitment."

Newberg police Sgt. Tim Weaver said officials are working with the university to find out who was responsible. He also said the police department has notified the U.S. Secret Service, although it's not clear yet whether the act was a crime.

Brad Lau, a university vice president, said school officials have been questioning students for leads. He and other school officials wouldn't say what action it might take.

Race factor
Several students in the Act Six program said they are angry but do not feel threatened.

"To me, I just felt like they weren't ready to have a black person be president," said Courtney Greenidge, a sophomore. "We're trying to bring change. Obama's trying to bring change." She described herself, like Obama, as biracial: half black, half white.

She also said that overall, the campus has a welcoming and positive environment, but that she has heard comments along the lines of, "Oh, I wish I was black. Then I could get a scholarship like that."

George Fox University's campus is in Newberg in the Willamette Valley south of Portland. About 1,800 students are enrolled. It also has centers in Portland; Salem; and Boise, Idaho.

Felton said that about 2 percent of the students are black and about a quarter of the freshman class belong to minority groups. That number includes international students, largely from Asia and Africa.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26872774/
 

aplusmnt

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nonothing said:
aplusmnt said:
Been wondering how serious things may get once Obama loses the election? Look at some of the riots that have been caused after minorities did not get the outcome they wanted. Like the Rodney King riots.

I wonder what odds there are that when Obama loses their will be riots across the U.S. in protest.

You wont have to worry Aplus....Obama is not going to lose... :wink:

You may not have to worry, I doubt anyone in Canada will riot when he loses but it is a serious concern here in the U.S. were all this matters!
 

alice

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C'mon! Should he lose, perish the thought, there will not be any riots.

Aplus, do you just sit around and think up scary, dire stuff...then throw it out there to see what kind of reaction MIGHT come up? :???:

Jeez Louise...what next?

Alice
 

backhoeboogie

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It may be worse is he wins. Everyone is LA hates it when the Lakers are in the play-offs. If the team wins, the town is burned. If the team loses, the town is still burned. They are ready to riot no matter what.

Didn't that happen with the Bulls too?
 

alice

Well-known member
Yanuck said:
I hope not and I also hope that there isn't anymore of this BS either.....


Obama effigy found hanging from campus tree
School leaders, students express outrage at 'overt racial act'

updated 5:27 p.m. MT, Wed., Sept. 24, 2008
NEWBERG, Ore. - Students and school leaders at a small Christian university expressed outrage Wednesday at the discovery of a life-size cardboard effigy of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama hanging from a tree on campus.

A custodian at George Fox University discovered the effigy early Tuesday and immediately removed it, President Robin Baker said. University spokesman Rob Felton said Wednesday that the commercially produced reproduction had been suspended from the branch of a tree near Minthorn Hall with fishing line around the neck.

The hanging of the effigy around the neck is seen as racist symbolism because it harkens back to lynchings of black men by white mobs, especially in the U.S. South, decades ago. Obama is aiming to become America's first black president.


"We will not tolerate such displays and condemn it in the strongest terms," Baker said. "George Fox University is committed to becoming a place that more broadly represents the Kingdom of God — a place where students from diverse backgrounds come together to live out the teachings of Jesus in our world."

Taped to the cardboard cutout of Obama was a sign that read "Act Six reject." Act Six is a scholarship program geared toward increasing the number of minority and low-income students at several Christian colleges, mostly in the Northwest.

The school has 17 students in the program, whose name derives from the New Testament book of Acts. All but one are members of minority groups, Felton said.

Students in the program receive full scholarships and are selected on the basis of leadership potential.

'Disheartened and outraged'
Baker met with the students in the Act Six program late Tuesday and addressed the student body Wednesday at the school's regular chapel service.

Baker told students he was "disheartened and outraged."

"It has been my dream to establish a university that more adequately represents the kingdom of God," he said. "This act causes some to question our commitment."

Newberg police Sgt. Tim Weaver said officials are working with the university to find out who was responsible. He also said the police department has notified the U.S. Secret Service, although it's not clear yet whether the act was a crime.

Brad Lau, a university vice president, said school officials have been questioning students for leads. He and other school officials wouldn't say what action it might take.

Race factor
Several students in the Act Six program said they are angry but do not feel threatened.

"To me, I just felt like they weren't ready to have a black person be president," said Courtney Greenidge, a sophomore. "We're trying to bring change. Obama's trying to bring change." She described herself, like Obama, as biracial: half black, half white.

She also said that overall, the campus has a welcoming and positive environment, but that she has heard comments along the lines of, "Oh, I wish I was black. Then I could get a scholarship like that."

George Fox University's campus is in Newberg in the Willamette Valley south of Portland. About 1,800 students are enrolled. It also has centers in Portland; Salem; and Boise, Idaho.

Felton said that about 2 percent of the students are black and about a quarter of the freshman class belong to minority groups. That number includes international students, largely from Asia and Africa.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26872774/

Thank you, Yanuck!!!!! It's incredible how certain citizens of this country have devolved.

Alice :)
 

alice

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backhoeboogie said:
It may be worse is he wins. Everyone is LA hates it when the Lakers are in the play-offs. If the team wins, the town is burned. If the team loses, the town is still burned. They are ready to riot no matter what.

Didn't that happen with the Bulls too?

I dunno if it did or not. However, you ever been in Dallas after the Texas/OU football game? :shock: Riots cross all cultural lines, and aren't only because of racial situations, let me assure you!

Alice
 

backhoeboogie

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alice said:
backhoeboogie said:
It may be worse is he wins. Everyone is LA hates it when the Lakers are in the play-offs. If the team wins, the town is burned. If the team loses, the town is still burned. They are ready to riot no matter what.

Didn't that happen with the Bulls too?

I dunno if it did or not. However, you ever been in Dallas after the Texas/OU football game? :shock: Riots cross all cultural lines, and aren't only because of racial situations, let me assure you!

Alice

Yes I have been there, but not to the west end afterwards. They don't burn the town. It has gotten out of hand and measures have been taken to preclude the fanfair. I wouldn't call them riots. There is not the same level of arson. Cars have burned.
 

kolanuraven

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alice said:
C'mon! Should he lose, perish the thought, there will not be any riots.

Aplus, do you just sit around and think up scary, dire stuff...then throw it out there to see what kind of reaction MIGHT come up? :???:

Jeez Louise...what next?

Alice


Oh, just wait till he gets really cranked up! :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
alice said:
backhoeboogie said:
It may be worse is he wins. Everyone is LA hates it when the Lakers are in the play-offs. If the team wins, the town is burned. If the team loses, the town is still burned. They are ready to riot no matter what.

Didn't that happen with the Bulls too?

I dunno if it did or not. However, you ever been in Dallas after the Texas/OU football game? :shock: Riots cross all cultural lines, and aren't only because of racial situations, let me assure you!

Alice

Not sure I ever studied in History about the Great OU vs Texas RIOTS :lol:

Have you ever heard of the Rodney King Riots, Watts Riot, Tulsa race Riot, Elaine Race Riot as well as the many other Riots started because of Race?
 

backhoeboogie

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aplusmnt said:
Not sure I ever studied in History about the Great OU vs Texas RIOTS :lol:

Mostly it is an excuse for college kid revelers to party in the West End based on traditions. It has gotten out of hand and starts of Friday and runs through Sunday. That whole weekend is a big money maker for motel/hotels and nightclubs. A few hundred get arrested and there are occasional confrontations.

Oklahoma does not have a pro football team. They are about as bad as the dixie boys in the Bear Bryant hay day. When the college teams there beat a Texas team, Okies call me to let me know. ?????

I have actually watched the games a few times. Most notably was when some cousins were playing. Two were RECRUITED FROM HERE TO PLAY FOR OKLAHOMA. So I have watched some games.
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
backhoeboogie said:
aplusmnt said:
Not sure I ever studied in History about the Great OU vs Texas RIOTS :lol:

Mostly it is an excuse for college kid revelers to party in the West End based on traditions. It has gotten out of hand and starts of Friday and runs through Sunday. That whole weekend is a big money maker for motel/hotels and nightclubs. A few hundred get arrested and there are occasional confrontations.

Oklahoma does not have a pro football team. They are about as bad as the dixie boys in the Bear Bryant hay day. When the college teams there beat a Texas team, Okies call me to let me know. ?????

I have actually watched the games a few times. Most notably was when some cousins were playing. Two were RECRUITED FROM HERE TO PLAY FOR OKLAHOMA. So I have watched some games.

I use to be an OU fan, when I use to live in Oklahoma and was in grade school then I got older and smarter in middle school and became an OSU fan. We saw what kind of fans OU had with Goodpasture :lol:
 

backhoeboogie

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Yanuck said:
I hope not and I also hope that there isn't anymore of this BS either.....


Obama effigy found hanging from campus tree
School leaders, students express outrage at 'overt racial act'


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26872774/

Yanuck I have thought and thought about what to say about your post. It pretty much it leaves me speechless.

This election has nothing to do with race for me personally.

If the right wing actually did this or anyone condoned such violence, it is hurting the Rep cause.

This is bigger than Obama himself but rather an insult to all races. It makes me wonder how the blacks in the armed services overseas feel about fighting to keep our freedoms and well being.
 

Texan

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I think law enforcement in metropolitan areas like Detroit, LA, Chicago, etc. would be negligent not to be planning for the possibility of civil unrest in the event of an Obama loss. After their experiences with the Rodney King riots, police in Los Angeles even prepared for rioting in the event of a guilty verdict in the OJ trial.

People are naive if they refuse to admit that this is a real possibility.
 

Texan

Well-known member
One executive at a black radio station told me when I interviewed him on my radio show at the Democratic National Convention that he could easily see riots if Obama loses a closely contested election. Interestingly, he said he thought blacks would be far more accepting of a big McCain victory.


September 23, 2008

Liberals' Warnings About Obama Loss May Prove Self-Fulfilling
By Dennis Prager

If Barack Obama loses the 2008 election, liberal hell will break loose.

Seven weeks before the 2008 presidential election, liberals are warning America that if Barack Obama loses, it is because Americans are racist. Of course, that this means that Democrats (and independents) are racist, since Republicans will vote Republican regardless of the race of the Democrat, is an irony apparently lost on the Democrats making these charges.

That an Obama loss will be due to racism is becoming as normative a liberal belief as "Bush Lied, People Died," a belief that has generated intense rage among many liberals. But "Obama lost because of white racism" will be even more enraging. Rage over the Iraq War has largely focused on President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney. But if Obama loses, liberal rage will focus on millions of fellow Americans and on American society.

And it could become a rage the likes of which America has not seen in a long time, if ever. It will first and foremost come from within black America. The deep emotional connection that nearly every black American has to an Obama victory is difficult for even empathetic non-blacks to measure. A major evangelical pastor told me that even evangelical black pastors who share every conservative value with white evangelical pastors, including pro-life views on abortion, will vote for Obama. They feel their very dignity is on the line.

That is why the growing chorus -- already nearing unanimity -- of liberal commentators and politicians ascribing an Obama loss to American racism is so dangerous.

Andrew Sullivan of The Atlantic: "White racism means that Obama needs more than a small but clear lead to win."

Jack Cafferty of CNN: "The polls remain close. Doesn't make sense ... unless it's race."

Jacob Weisberg of Newsweek and Slate: "The reason Obama isn't ahead right now is ... the color of his skin. ... If Obama loses, our children will grow up thinking of equal opportunity as a myth."

Nicholas D. Kristof of New York Times: "Religious prejudice (against Obama) is becoming a proxy for racial prejudice."

Gerald W. McEntee, president of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, in a speech to union workers: "Are you going to give up your house and your job and your children's futures because he's black?"

Similar comments have been made by Kansas's Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, a Democrat, and by writers in Time magazine. And according to The Associated Press: "A poll conducted by The Associated Press and Yahoo News, in conjunction with Stanford University, revealed that a fairly significant percentage of Democrats and independents may not vote for Sen. Barack Obama because of his race." If you read the poll, it does not in fact suggest this conclusion. The pollsters assert that any person with any negative view of black life means that the person is racist and means that he would not vote for Obama. Both conclusions are unwarranted. But "Obama will lose because of racism" is how the poll takers and the media spin it.

Why do liberals believe that if Obama loses it will be due to white racism?

One reason is the liberal elite's contempt for white Americans with less education -- even if they are Democrats.

A second reason is that it is inconceivable to most liberals that an Obama loss -- especially a narrow one -- will be due to Obama's liberal views or inexperience or to admiration for John McCain.

The third reason is that the further left you go, the more insular you get. Americans on the left tend to talk only to one another; study only under left-wing teachers; and read only fellow leftists. That is why it is a shock to so many liberals when a Republican wins a national election -- where do all these Republican voters come from? And that in turn explains why liberals ascribe Republican presidential victories to unfair election tactics ("Swift-boating" is the liberals' reason for the 2004 Republican victory). In any fair election, Americans will see the left's light.

If Obama loses, it will not be deemed plausible that Americans have again rejected a liberal candidate, indeed the one with the most liberal voting record in the U.S. Senate. Liberals will explain an Obama defeat as another nefarious Republican victory. Combining contempt for many rural and middle-class white Americans with a longstanding belief in the inevitability of a Democratic victory in 2008 (after all, everyone they talk to despises the Republicans and believes Republicans have led the country to ruin), there will be only one reason Obama did not win -- white racism.

One executive at a black radio station told me when I interviewed him on my radio show at the Democratic National Convention that he could easily see riots if Obama loses a closely contested election. Interestingly, he said he thought blacks would be far more accepting of a big McCain victory.

I pray he is wrong on the first point. But it does seem that liberals are continuing to do whatever they can to increase anger at America, or at least at "white America." For 40 years, liberals have described the most open and tolerant society on earth as racist and xenophobic. If Barack Obama loses, the results of this liberal depiction of America may become frighteningly apparent.

Copyright 2008, Creators Syndicate Inc.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/liberals_warnings_about_obama.html
 

Steve

Well-known member
an unedited email.. might put some perspective of how hard some are trying to inject race into the politics... seems you can't like Palin because she is conservative, or dislike Obama because he is a liberal..

No matter what your politics are, this piece has some things that really need to be looked at in our country.
White Privilege, White Entitlement and the 2008 Election

> A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
> By Tim Wise
>
> For those who still can't grasp the concept of white privilege, or who are constantly looking for some easy-to-understand examples of it, perhaps this list will help.
>
White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because 'every family has challenges,' even as black and Latino families with similar 'challenges' are regularly typified as irrespo nsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.
>
White privilege is when you can call yourself a 'fuckin' redneck,' like Bristol Palin's boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you'll 'kick their fuckin' ass,' and talk about how you like to 'shoot ****' for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.
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White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action.
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White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than mos t medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don't all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you're 'untested.'
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White privilege is being able to say that you support the words 'under God' in the pledge of allegiance because 'if it was good enough for the founding fathers, it's good enough for me,' and not be immediately disqualified from holding office--since, after all, the pledge was written in the late 1800s and the 'under God' part wasn't added until the 1950s--while believing that reading accused criminals and terrorists their rights (because, ya know, the Constitution, which you used to teach at a prestigious law school requires it), is a dangerous and silly idea only supported by mushy liberals.
>&nb sp;
White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you.

White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto was 'Alaska first,' and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're black and your spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she's being disrespectful.

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White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and the work they do--like, among other things, fight for the right of women to vote, or for civil rights,or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor--and people think you¢re being pithy and tough, but if you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in college--you're somehow being mean, or even sexist.
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White privilege is being able to convince white women who don't even agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your running mate anyway, because all of a sudden your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made them give your party a 'second look.'
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White privilege is being able to fire people who didn't support your political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your pow er or being a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in Chicago means you must be corrupt.
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White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God's punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you're just a good church-going Christian, but if you're black and friends with a black pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you're an extremist who probably hates America.
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White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you such a 'trick question,'while being black and merely refusing to give one-word answers to the queries of Bill O'Reilly means you're dodging the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.
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White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being black and experiencing racism is, as Sarah Palin has referred to it, a 'light' burden.
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And finally, white privilege is the only thing that could possibly allow someone to become president when he has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing, people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because white vote rs aren't sure about that whole 'change' thing. Ya know, it's just too vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four more years of the same, which is very concrete and certain.
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White privilege is, in short, the problem.
>
> A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
Tim Wise is the author of White Like Me (Soft Skull, 2005, revised 2008), and of Speaking Treason Fluently, publishing this month, also by Soft Skull.
 

Texan

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Steve said:
an unedited email.. might put some perspective of how hard some are trying to inject race into the politics... seems you can't like Palin because she is conservative, or dislike Obama because he is a liberal..
Yep. Here's some more perspective of how desperate some of the Dems are in trying to make it about race. From a freakin' U.S. Congressman:


Rep. Alcee Hastings told an audience of Jewish Democrats Wednesday that they should be wary of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/24/florida-congressman-points-to-palin-to-rally-jews-to-obama/
 

alice

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backhoeboogie said:
Yanuck said:
I hope not and I also hope that there isn't anymore of this BS either.....


Obama effigy found hanging from campus tree
School leaders, students express outrage at 'overt racial act'


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26872774/

Yanuck I have thought and thought about what to say about your post. It pretty much it leaves me speechless.

This election has nothing to do with race for me personally.

If the right wing actually did this or anyone condoned such violence, it is hurting the Rep cause.

This is bigger than Obama himself but rather an insult to all races. It makes me wonder how the blacks in the armed services overseas feel about fighting to keep our freedoms and well being.

This election has nothing to do with race for me personally.

Of course it doesn't...nor does it me!

This is bigger than Obama himself but rather an insult to all races.

There's politics, then there's just plain decency. You're a good man, Boogie! You can see the difference. Thank you!

Alice
 

alice

Well-known member
Texan said:
Steve said:
an unedited email.. might put some perspective of how hard some are trying to inject race into the politics... seems you can't like Palin because she is conservative, or dislike Obama because he is a liberal..
Yep. Here's some more perspective of how desperate some of the Dems are in trying to make it about race. From a freakin' U.S. Congressman:


Rep. Alcee Hastings told an audience of Jewish Democrats Wednesday that they should be wary of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/24/florida-congressman-points-to-palin-to-rally-jews-to-obama/

If that's for real, if that byte wasn't just plucked from a longer bunch bytes, then that was out of line.

Alice
 
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