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When the military's hand are untied

Traveler

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Just had to get rid of that muslim loving cupcake, Obama. MAGA!
https://news.yahoo.com/blood-knees-defeated-jihadists-still-defiant-160042423.html
 

iwannabeacowboy

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He had to until the troops from the leaders Obama installed as well.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obama/
 

Broke Cowboy

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Traveler said:
Just had to get rid of that muslim loving cupcake, Obama. MAGA!
https://news.yahoo.com/blood-knees-defeated-jihadists-still-defiant-160042423.html

Always remember that in many mid east wars we were not allowed to win.

Afghanistan and now Mali are two examples.
 

Faster horses

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That link was from 2013, but this caught my eye. Why wasn't this brought out at some point by MSM? "Rear Adm. Chuck Gaouette, commander of the John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group, was relieved in October 2012 for disobeying orders when he sent his group on Sept. 11 to "assist and provide intelligence for" military forces ordered into action by Gen. Ham."

General Ham is a HERO!
 

Faster horses

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Broke Cowboy said:
Traveler said:
Just had to get rid of that muslim loving cupcake, Obama. MAGA!
https://news.yahoo.com/blood-knees-defeated-jihadists-still-defiant-160042423.html

Always remember that in many mid east wars we were not allowed to win.

Afghanistan and now Mali are two examples.

Terribly sad, the Rules of Engagement especially under Obama. Trump says he will fight to win and I believe him.
I suggest everyone read the book "Betrayed" by Billy Vaughn.
 

Broke Cowboy

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Faster horses said:
That link was from 2013, but this caught my eye. Why wasn't this brought out at some point by MSM? "Rear Adm. Chuck Gaouette, commander of the John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group, was relieved in October 2012 for disobeying orders when he sent his group on Sept. 11 to "assist and provide intelligence for" military forces ordered into action by Gen. Ham."

General Ham is a HERO!

I do not know him but I do know we were not allowed to carry out certain operations in event we "harmed relations" with the Afghan folks.

In fact we were forced to train and arm the men that were "friendly" - and suffered many "green on blue" deaths because of it. Look it up if you do not know what it is - just google "green on blue attacks"

Those so called friendlies killed a lot of our men and women.

We should have treated the country like Germany or Japan and it would have been over in no time.

We were were literally not allowed to win.

Buried more than a few because of it.
 

Faster horses

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Broke Cowboy said:
Faster horses said:
That link was from 2013, but this caught my eye. Why wasn't this brought out at some point by MSM? "Rear Adm. Chuck Gaouette, commander of the John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group, was relieved in October 2012 for disobeying orders when he sent his group on Sept. 11 to "assist and provide intelligence for" military forces ordered into action by Gen. Ham."

General Ham is a HERO!

I do not know him but I do know we were not allowed to carry out certain operations in event we "harmed relations" with the Afghan folks.

In fact we were forced to train and arm the men that were "friendly" - and suffered many "green on blue" deaths because of it. Look it up if you do not know what it is - just google "green on blue attacks"

Those so called friendlies killed a lot of our men and women.

We should have treated the country like Germany or Japan and it would have been over in no time.

We were were literally not allowed to win.

Buried more than a few because of it.

I always value what you have to say. I think I misspoke about General Ham...I apologize...I thought he denied orders to stand down when assistance was needed in Benghazi. However, upon searching, I found this: https://www.truthorfiction.com/general-ham-fired/
I feel so bad about what has happened to all those brave men and women in our military and I pray things are better now with President Trump. I will look up 'green on blue deaths'. :cry2:
I know our military didn't know who the enemy was....women and children were befriended only to pay the ultimate sacrifice for that friendship.

Is what you are speaking of when Obama was President? His Rules of Engagement made a frightening time for the military.
I have a cousin that was blown off a rooftop in Afghanistan, 70 stitches in his face, yet he went back because he
believed in what the USA was doing, though he didn't believe in the Commander-in-chief.

God bless you, BC. You've been there and have paid the price. Thank you for sharing on this forum and thank you for your service.
 

Broke Cowboy

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I was there when obama ran your country. But green on blue happened before and still happens. It took 14 hours on the operating table and two teams of surgeons and their assistants for me to be able to walk again - but that is for another time.

In the end we are no longer allowed to win - if we cannot fight to win then I say we do not go.

Be safe.
 

Faster horses

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Broke Cowboy said:
I was there when obama ran your country. But green on blue happened before and still happens. It took 14 hours on the operating table and two teams of surgeons and their assistants for me to be able to walk again - but that is for another time.

In the end we are no longer allowed to win - if we cannot fight to win then I say we do not go.

Be safe.

Please check your private messages.
 

Broke Cowboy

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Faster horses said:
Broke Cowboy said:
I was there when obama ran your country. But green on blue happened before and still happens. It took 14 hours on the operating table and two teams of surgeons and their assistants for me to be able to walk again - but that is for another time.

In the end we are no longer allowed to win - if we cannot fight to win then I say we do not go.

Be safe.

Please check your private messages.

Nothing there
 
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