grass hay, it hits just as the meadows start greening up, found having mineral out helps tooFaster horses said:I'm curious. If you don't mind me asking, what are you feeding your cows that over-eating is a problem?
I have a suggestion. A diet of alfalfa and/or grain hay can lead to entertoxemia. Going to grass hay or grass hay with a small amount
of alfalfa helps that situation a lot.
Baby calves don't need a big blast of milk, causes more problems than not.
A diet lower in protein after calving will result in less milk production and the cow will 'come to her milk' as the calf grows and takes more.
FWIW
Howdy1 said:Faster Horses,
It isn't always a nutrition thing. We get it the worst with older calves that have been thru some tough weather. They don't suck for a day or two and load up on milk when they find momma and bango they get enterotoxemia. Kills them very fast in not looking for it.
We give the C&D shot right after they are born when we tag anywhere from an hour of two after birth to a day later. Don't know if its right but works for us.
Howdy1 said:Faster Horses,
It isn't always a nutrition thing. We get it the worst with older calves that have been thru some tough weather. They don't suck for a day or two and load up on milk when they find momma and bango they get enterotoxemia. Kills them very fast in not looking for it.
We give the C&D shot right after they are born when we tag anywhere from an hour of two after birth to a day later. Don't know if its right but works for us.
jodywy said:Friend over east of Sheridan Wyoming calves late Aug- Sept. warm fall rain in October and the cheat grass jumped ,they were dosing calves left and right with Penicillin and Antitoxin.... they lost a lot of calves that fall.
jodywy said:Friend over east of Sheridan Wyoming calves late Aug- Sept. warm fall rain in October and the cheat grass jumped ,they were dosing calves left and right with Penicillin and Antitoxin.... they lost a lot of calves that fall.
Faster horses said:I'm curious. If you don't mind me asking, what are you feeding your cows that over-eating is a problem?
I have a suggestion. A diet of alfalfa and/or grain hay can lead to entertoxemia. Going to grass hay or grass hay with a small amount
of alfalfa helps that situation a lot.
Baby calves don't need a big blast of milk, causes more problems than not.
A diet lower in protein after calving will result in less milk production and the cow will 'come to her milk' as the calf grows and takes more.
FWIW
daisy.605 said:Faster horses said:I'm curious. If you don't mind me asking, what are you feeding your cows that over-eating is a problem?
I have a suggestion. A diet of alfalfa and/or grain hay can lead to entertoxemia. Going to grass hay or grass hay with a small amount
of alfalfa helps that situation a lot.
Baby calves don't need a big blast of milk, causes more problems than not.
A diet lower in protein after calving will result in less milk production and the cow will 'come to her milk' as the calf grows and takes more.
FWIW
I normally feed them alfalfa and grass hay. The problem comes after a snow storm, when the calves are hunkered down and don't nurse like they would normally. When the storm passes, they over eat and die. I also give the cows scour boss shots prior to calving.
tamarack said:Pardon my ignorance but what is a c and d shot ? We give our calves a scour vaccine at birth along with a d e selenium all by mouth and they get blackleg at a month when they go to pasture never seem to lose any by overeating.
Clostridium perfringens is a Gram-positive, rod-shaped, anaerobic, spore-forming bacterium of the genus Clostridium. C. perfringens is ever present in nature and can be found as a normal component of decaying vegetation, marine sediment, the intestinal tract of humans and other vertebrates, insects, and soil. It has the shortest reported generation time of any organism at 6.3 minutes in thioglycollate medium.tamarack said:Pardon my ignorance but what is a c and d shot ? We give our calves a scour vaccine at birth along with a d e selenium all by mouth and they get blackleg at a month when they go to pasture never seem to lose any by overeating.