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When Will They Crucify Dr. Ben Carson?

Mike

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When do you think the Dems will come up with a bogus tale to ruin his character like they did to Herman Cain? Just curious.............
 

Brad S

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I've wondered that myself. First they must vilify his accomplishment. Like Romney, a self made billionaire, impeccable lifestyle, brilliant, personable yet they employed dogma that made Hitler smile in Hell. It's coming to carson. The slur on Perry is meant to attack ideas that Carson may support. These statists will do anything for power, and I certainly realize how broad anything is. This is why we need to limit and down size government. That's the only way to limit the criminal element in government. Legalize booze to take the money out of organized crime? Hell no, these parasites simply morphed their perpetrating into big goverenment.
 

Faster horses

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Brad S said:
I've wondered that myself. First they must vilify his accomplishment. Like Romney, a self made billionaire, impeccable lifestyle, brilliant, personable yet they employed dogma that made Hitler smile in Hell. It's coming to carson. The slur on Perry is meant to attack ideas that Carson may support. These statists will do anything for power, and I certainly realize how broad anything is. This is why we need to limit and down size government. That's the only way to limit the criminal element in government. Legalize booze to take the money out of organized crime? Hell no, these parasites simply morphed their perpetrating into big goverenment.

While America loses... :cry:
 

Traveler

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He needs to pick up a little more steam, and be stronger and further along, when it gets to the primaries. At this time the libs will pull something out of their ass, and the shameful mainstream media will run with it.
 

TexasBred

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Mike said:
When do you think the Dems will come up with a bogus tale to ruin his character like they did to Herman Cain? Just curious.............

You can bet they are looking....and if they can't find anything they have a year to create something by hook or crook.
 

Steve

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Political mudslingers looking for dirt to discredit famed neurosurgeon Dr. Benjamin Carson after his candid speech criticizing government policies and political correctness at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington D.C. just over a week ago, are probably going to need a miracle finding any major ammunition.

"Doctor, when you say things that people don't want to hear, usually there is an immediate effort to delegitimize the speaker, were you concerned about that before you made that speech, in that forum, with that audience?" asked radio talk show host, Leslie Gold.

"I wasn't concerned because there is nothing that they can do to delegitimize me," said Carson during the show. "There is no skeleton that they can find. They are gonna try. Good luck!" he added.

Carson has repeatedly said the only way he would run for president is if God tells him to do it. That didn't stop him during the show however, from thinking hypothetically about what the first order of business would be for him if he were to be elected President of the United States in 2016 during the Sean Hannity audience Q&A.

"It's January 2017 and you've just been inaugurated President of the United States. What would be your top legislative priorities?" asked an excited Jamie Weinstein of The Daily Caller.

"Assuming that things are continuing the way they are now, we've got to get the economy working again because that will take care of the jobs. Productivity, rather than just mindless jobs," said Carson.

I have not heard him enough to say I would support him over other conservatives,.. but I feel he is an asset to the GOP and our nation.

as for dirt,.. the liberals find in the strangest of places..

for instance.. he is on the board of Costco

while they appear to be liked by the liberals.. I am sure they could find a scandal somewhere in it's books, and somehow link it to Doctor Carson..

it worked for them on when they took the 47% comment out of context..
as well as how Bain had dealt with some companies it managed..

Dr. Carson will need to hit back hard and make his response the news story.. , like Perry is doing in Texas right now..
 

Traveler

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http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro

Never underestimate the capacity of the media to propagandize against Republicans.

That’s the theme of this morning’s overwrought news coverage on Dr. Ben Carson’s supposed “lie” regarding a “scholarship” to West Point. The story began with Politico, which ran with the audacious headline, “Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship.” Even I was taken in by the headline – after all, that’s a pretty bold claim!

Politico began thusly:

Ben Carson’s campaign on Friday admitted, in a response to an inquiry from POLITICO, that a central point in his inspirational personal story was fabricated: his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

The key word here is “fabricated.” Did the Carson campaign admit any such thing? Absolutely not. The facts reported by Politico don’t even support this interpretation of the Carson campaign’s response. According to Politico, Carson said in his 1992 memoir Gifted Hands that he was offered a “full scholarship” to West Point after dining with General William Westmoreland in 1969. Here’s the relevant passage from Carson’s autobiography:

At the end of my twelfth grade I marched at the head of the Memorial Day parade. I felt so proud, my chest bursting with ribbons and braids of every kind. To make it more wonderful, We had important visitors that day. Two soldiers who had won the Congressional Medal of Honor in Viet Nam were present. More exciting to me, General William Westmoreland (very prominent in the Viet Nam war) attended with an impressive entourage. Afterward, Sgt. Hunt introduced me to General Westmoreland, and I had dinner with him and the Congressional Medal winners. Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point. I didn’t refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn’t where I saw myself going.

That’s the entire relevant portion of Carson’s account. He reiterated that account last month in an interview with Charlie Rose, when he said, “I was offered a full scholarship at West Point, got to meet General Westmoreland and go to Congressional Medal of Honor dinners. But decided really my pathway would be medicine.”

Politico followed up on this story. They reported one additional piece of information that seems to conflict with Carson’s story: Carson never applied to West Point, and was never extended admission.

But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a “full scholarship,” and never applied.

In fact, that’s exactly what Carson’s campaign manager said to Politico in an email:

Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit. In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer. He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC Supervisors. They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission.

But here’s how Politico editorialized: “When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.”

That’s nonsense. They did no such thing. They provided details that corroborated Carson’s story and explained his loose use of the language. If someone told you that you could go to college for free, you might reasonably conclude that you had been offered a full scholarship to attend that university. But Politico would call you a liar if you used such language to describe the exchange.

Now, some on the right are saying that Carson should be held to a higher standard here than other candidates because he’s running as an “outsider.” But this is a basic case of misinterpreting facts, not an outright lie. Carson served in ROTC. Prominent people wanted him to go to West Point. He wouldn’t have had to pay. He didn’t apply because he didn’t want to go. Those facts are not in dispute. It’s the specific wording over which media have decided to crucify him.

This is a textbook example of a left-wing media hit. Politico would never editorialize about any Democrat who issued such a response to a factual inquiry in this manner. Politico won’t even conclude that Hillary Clinton lied about her attribution of the Benghazi attacks to a YouTube video despite email evidence that she knew Benghazi was a terrorist attack entirely unrelated to a YouTube video.

But for Ben Carson, they’ll make an exception.

Vile.

UPDATE: Dave Weigel of The Washington Post rightly points out this from Carson's Facebook page circa August:

I was the highest student ROTC member in Detroit and was thrilled to get an offer from West Point. But I knew medicine is what I wanted to do. So I applied to only one school. (it was all the money I had). I applied to Yale and thank God they accepted me. I often wonder what might have happened had they said no.

Weigel also points out that Carson said as much in his book -- the same book Politico quoted to pretend that Carson lied:
 

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