• If you are having problems logging in please use the Contact Us in the lower right hand corner of the forum page for assistance.

When you thought it couldn't get scarier

Tam

Well-known member
As if hearing IRS agents were told to target Conservatives by the Washington Higher ups wasn't bad enough, now you hear that IRS agents are being given firearms lessons so they know how to use a semi auto AR-15. Will people now be facing an armed IRS agent with a bad attitude when they go in for a targeted audit?
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
Tam said:
As if hearing IRS agents were told to target Conservatives by the Washington Higher ups wasn't bad enough, now you hear that IRS agents are being given firearms lessons so they know how to use a semi auto AR-15. Will people now be facing an armed IRS agent with a bad attitude when they go in for a targeted audit?

I'd like a link to that story please.
 

Tam

Well-known member
They were just reporting about it on FOX this morning.

But here is a link to Politico story on it.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/jeff-duncan-irs-rifle-training-92662.html
 

Steve

Well-known member
FDA, IRS, FBI: 80 Armed Agents Raid Health Supplement Firm in Oregon

4558156608_610x_xlarge.jpeg


A band of 80 federal agents stormed Maxam Nutraceutics of Hood River, Oregon last week in what seems to be an unnecessary and outrageous abuse of power.

Jim Cole, Founder and CEO of Maxam said he cooperated with every demand that the FDA made of him, and was convinced that all was well. But apparently the FDA had different ideas when out of nowhere, the agency, along with the IRS and the FBI, sent as many as 80 armed, SWAT-style agents to both Maxam headquarters, the company’s “Big Gym” training center, and even Jim’s daughter’s house, to confiscate all the products, company documents, and even personal files and computers.

“They took all our products, all our paperwork, all our files — we’ve been doing this since 1992 and they pulled everything,” said Jim. “They brought in three big moving vans, they had their guns on, their bullet-proof vests — they came prepared for war.”

http://journal.livingfood.us/2011/04/28/fda-irs-fbi-80-armed-agents-raid-health-supplement-firm-in-oregon/

swat-milk-raid.png


The use of force by federal agents to enforce unjust and unconstitutional laws is one of the major, albeit overlooked, threats to liberty. Too often Americans are victimized by government force simply for engaging in commercial transactions disproved of by Congress and the federal bureaucracy. Ron Paul:

young-girl-eating-cereal-at-breakfast.jpg
I poured the milk before I poured the cereal - Crying Girl

I realize raw milk can be dangerous.. but really... a few dozen agents.. for an FDA raid...

do they realize if a guy was as dangerous as they are prepared for.. that standing in a neat little row is not a good idea?
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
I had no idea that the IRS had its own enforcement goons but then, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Americans can just pizz on the ashes of what once was a free nation.
 

Steve

Well-known member
Whitewing said:
I had no idea that the IRS had its own enforcement goons but then, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Americans can just pizz on the ashes of what once was a free nation.

it isn't like the "special agents" are a secret... :shock:

http://www.irs.gov/irm/part9/irm_09-001-004.html

heck,.. even the US postal service has armed agents...

ruben%2Bcarrera-postal%2Binspector.jpg


even the buses have guys armed to the teeth up here..

security_AP110502020776_620x350.jpg
 

Tam

Well-known member
Steve said:
Whitewing said:
I had no idea that the IRS had its own enforcement goons but then, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Americans can just pizz on the ashes of what once was a free nation.

it isn't like the "special agents" are a secret... :shock:

http://www.irs.gov/irm/part9/irm_09-001-004.html

heck,.. even the US postal service has armed agents...

ruben%2Bcarrera-postal%2Binspector.jpg


even the buses have guys armed to the teeth up here..

security_AP110502020776_620x350.jpg

Is the Post master selling you your stamps packing heat? Is the bus driver or the person selling you your ticket packing heat? IRS Agents packing heat when there has never been an agent killed in the line of duty is a bit strange and everyone should be questioning WHY Obama is arming government employees like this. Is this his answer to the domestic armed force he was talking about. The IRS has proved they will do his bidding even if it goes against fellow citizens and IS ILLEGAL. :x
 

Steve

Well-known member
Is the Post master selling you your stamps packing heat? Is the bus driver or the person selling you your ticket packing heat? IRS Agents packing heat when there has never been an agent killed in the line of duty is a bit strange and everyone should be questioning WHY Obama is arming government employees like this. Is this his answer to the domestic armed force he was talking about. The IRS has proved they will do his bidding even if it goes against fellow citizens and IS ILLEGAL.

I don't think any of them "needs' to be armed to the teeth,.. we have dedicated law enforcement agencys.. if the local police can't detain a person or provide security.. call in the FBI...

there is no point in arming every department from the post office to the epa.. to the point the departments all have more gear and weapons then the average servicemen..
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
What's a "point" have to do with creating a "police state"

"progressives/liberals" do not have to have a valid reason to create a police state, unless there was a Constitution, that they respected.
 

Tam

Well-known member
Steve said:
Is the Post master selling you your stamps packing heat? Is the bus driver or the person selling you your ticket packing heat? IRS Agents packing heat when there has never been an agent killed in the line of duty is a bit strange and everyone should be questioning WHY Obama is arming government employees like this. Is this his answer to the domestic armed force he was talking about. The IRS has proved they will do his bidding even if it goes against fellow citizens and IS ILLEGAL.

I don't think any of them "needs' to be armed to the teeth,.. we have dedicated law enforcement agencys.. if the local police can't detain a person or provide security.. call in the FBI...

there is no point in arming every department from the post office to the epa.. to the point the departments all have more gear and weapons then the average servicemen..

I agree they don't need to be armed and that is why people NEED to start asking WHY are they?

Obama and his crooked Administration is looking at Gun Control laws which include extended background checks. Think of this You have an Obama Loving gun toting IRS targeting Conservatives ie anyone speaking out against Obama and you have the NSA (likely soon to be gun toting too) collecting data daily through your cell phone records and Emails, Ask yourself will the NSA be holding up background checks on anyone that even looks like they disagree with Obama's policies, so they can't buy a gun to protect themselves from Obama's armed government employees when they come knocking to get you tax records and legally owned guns? :?

Sure Obama claims the data mined info is safe and nobody can get to it to abuse it as there are checks and balances in place to stop it being accessed without a court order. BUT we all know that is a lie as a whistleblower that accessed that personal info is now in China threatening to expose more info and I'm sure he did not have a court order to access the info he has. :wink:

It is well known that Obama had a geek squad working for his campaign gathering info on undecided voters, so can you really be sure those geeks are not hacking the national data base that contains your records. And if they do, do you really think that anyone in the Obama Administration will admit it was done? Just look at how many times Obama's Department heads have been caught lying to those that are to OVERSEE THEIR ACTIONS (Those in charge of the Checks and Balance over his Administration). Clapper lied when he was asked just weeks ago if the government was collecting info on AMERICANS by saying NO. Holder has one Contempt of Congress charge on his record over Fast and Furious and he is headed for a second and should be criminally charges for lying about seizing press records, but I doubt even Issa has the balls to do it as Obama and the Dems will just turn it on him in the Liberal bias media and make him out to be the BAD GUY. Since the person that Holder illegally targeted works for a more Conservative News Network, Obama's supporters will see nothing wrong with what they did and give Holder a pass, just like they did with the IRS and their targeting CONSERVATIVES. H*LL Obama, Hillary and Sue Rice all lied about Benghazi but they are going to get away with that scandal due to the idea it happened a long time ago. And wow has Carney lied, can we say daily about just about everything. At this point it would be easier to mention those in Obama's Administration that haven't lied, as I don't know of any. But their supporters don't care as long as the checks keep coming. They might start caring when the checks start bouncing but by then it will be WAY TO LATE to stop the Dictator and Chief and his gun toting loyal employees. :???:
 

Tam

Well-known member
There was a very interesting discussion on Huckabee tonight about the NSA and the IRS. The question everyone faces is will the private info that we now know the NSA is collecting, even though Clapper says they weren't, be used to target people or has it already been used?

A early NSA whistleblower was on talking about this issue and he said he heard one of those targeted by the IRS testifying that she was asked by the IRS agent if she knew a certain person. He then went on to ask how did the IRS know to ask her if she knew that person, was it because someone at the NSA had looked at her cell phone records and emails and told the IRS agent she had communicated with the named person or did they just pull a name out of a hat that contains 300 million American named and just got lucky to find one she had talked to?

Can anyone really trust the Obama Administration after all the lying they have done to cover up their past actions, when they say they have not illegally abused the data base that contains that information?
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
the obama administration will continue to attempt to target/intimidate their political enemies into silence, you can count on it.

Do not give them the satisfaction...

...Christians and Conservatives are not doing anything wrong
 
Top