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Where did Joe go?

Texan

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Obama didn't know his VP pick good enough to rely on him by now? :lol:

"I think as the president-elect gets to know the vice president-elect and understands his strengths, he'll rely on him a little more," said Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, who has known Biden for 30 years. "Right now you're almost in the campaign mode still and so you really rely on the people who've been around since the beginning."


Bidentity Crisis: Where's Joe?

By CAROL E. LEE | 11/27/08 6:01 PM EST


CHICAGO — More than three weeks into the transition, and Vice-President elect Joe Biden generates less buzz than the non-existent first puppy.

The vice president-elect has not spoken publicly since the election, and was at Barack Obama's side just once this week as the president-elect delivered a series of grim news conferences on the economy.

Obama instead appears to be at the center of his longtime Chicago circle.

His chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, and senior adviser David Axelrod were each at two of Obama's press conferences, and Valerie Jarrett, another senior adviser, joined him during a media-frenzied local lunch stop last Friday. Emanuel and Axelrod have also both already made the rounds on the Sunday morning talk shows, where Biden used to be a familiar face.

"I think as the president-elect gets to know the vice president-elect and understands his strengths, he'll rely on him a little more," said Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, who has known Biden for 30 years. "Right now you're almost in the campaign mode still and so you really rely on the people who've been around since the beginning."

Still, it's a precipitous drop in profile from just three months ago, when 47-year-old Obama, dogged by critics who deemed him an elitist who lacked experience, selected as his running mate Biden, a foreign-policy expert who'd been in the Senate since his new boss was in elementary school but still rode Amtrak to work.

"He's stared down dictators and spoken out for American cops and firefighters," Obama said as he introduced Biden in Springfield, Ill. on a Saturday in late August. "He is uniquely suited to be my partner as we work to put our country back on track."

But even on the trail the tightly controlled campaign kept a close watch on the gaffe-prone Biden as he was dispatched to court Jews in South Florida and blue-collar workers in Pennsylvania.

Nor has his role as vice president, a high-profile office with at best nebulous powers, yet been defined, leaving a vacuum filled only with speculation. Amid reports that Obama will name Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State the question swirled: What about Biden? Foreign policy was supposed to be his domain.

"You think he wasn't in on that conversation?" a source involved with the transition asked rhetorically.

Yet in a column last week The Washington Post's David Ignatius called Biden "the incredible shrinking vice president-elect."

"Where is he these days?" Ignatius wonders. "Do they have him in a box? He can't be happy at the idea of considering Clinton as foreign policy tsarina — wasn't Biden's foreign policy savvy the reason he was picked?"

Those close to Biden say he views his role as providing counsel to the president — a function that's often not visible to the public — and that he is doing just that.

Like their recent predecessors, Obama and Biden have met for weekly one-on-one lunches since the election. Biden has also been at every key transition meeting and has had private discussions with Obama on the phone when the vice president-elect has regularly returned from the transition base in Chicago to his home in Delaware.

"He's been very closely involved in the key decisions," said former Senator Bob Graham (D-Fla.), who is working with the Obama transition on intelligence. "He and the president-elect have a very good personal chemistry."

The transition made a point last week of giving reporters unsolicited quotes of Obama and Biden joking with each other, details about birthday gifts Obama gave him and photographic evidence of the scene where Obama surprised Biden with 12 cupcakes a day before the vice president-elect's 66th birthday. It appeared like a staged effort to reassure the public that Obama and Biden are still the get-along duo voters saw during the campaign.

Those who are close to Biden say they see him taking on a key role in the administration. He could prove to be the White House's most valuable liaison in the Senate when it comes to keeping Congress in line with the administration's legislative agenda, they say. Obama could use him to weigh in foreign policy and domestic security, and he could be involved in justice issues, having served as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

"Joe Biden is someone who wears very, very well — the more you get to know him the more you get to like him," said Rendell, who will meet with Obama and Biden next Tuesday at a governors conference in Philadelphia.

"I think as the process continues, he will be a very important vice president."

The vice presidential office's role, which expanded tremendously during the Bush administration. Dick Cheney is viewed by many as the most powerful vice president in American history and as a chief architect of the war in Iraq.

The office's role will likely shrink back to something closer to its usual size after Obama takes office.

Biden famously called Cheney "the most dangerous vice president we've had probably in American history." But his criticism of Cheney's interpretation of the office perhaps offers the most telling clues about the kind of vice president Joe Biden will be.

In another dig at Cheney during the vice-presidential debate in October, Biden cited Article I in the Constitution to say that the vice president has no legislative authority except to be the tie vote in the Senate.

"And the primary role of the vice president of the United States of America is to support the president of the United States of America, give that president his or her best judgment when sought, and as vice president, to preside over the Senate, only in a time when in fact there's a tie vote," Biden said. "The Constitution is explicit."



http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/16039.html
 

fff

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I guess it's a slow news day to write a headline like that one. From the article you posted:

Those close to Biden say he views his role as providing counsel to the president — a function that's often not visible to the public — and that he is doing just that.

Like their recent predecessors, Obama and Biden have met for weekly one-on-one lunches since the election. Biden has also been at every key transition meeting and has had private discussions with Obama on the phone when the vice president-elect has regularly returned from the transition base in Chicago to his home in Delaware.

"He's been very closely involved in the key decisions," said former Senator Bob Graham (D-Fla.), who is working with the Obama transition on intelligence. "He and the president-elect have a very good personal chemistry."
 

fff

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Texan said:
Since we're picking our favorite quotes from the article, I like this one:

...Vice-President elect Joe Biden generates less buzz than the non-existent first puppy.
:lol:

I didn't vote for Obama/Biden for their enertainment value. I voted for them in hopes they could get us out of the hole that conservative Republicans have put us in. We've had eight years of laughing at the government as they fail at first one thing, the economy comes to mind, or another, Katrina/Ike.
 

TexasBred

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fff said:
Texan said:
Since we're picking our favorite quotes from the article, I like this one:

...Vice-President elect Joe Biden generates less buzz than the non-existent first puppy.
:lol:

I didn't vote for Obama/Biden for their enertainment value. I voted for them in hopes they could get us out of the hole that conservative Republicans have put us in. We've had eight years of laughing at the government as they fail at first one thing, the economy comes to mind, or another, Katrina/Ike.

I'm glad you used the word "government" when you laugh. That includes all the inept politicians in Washington....Katrina ??? That place needs to be flushed out periodically. Ike?? I haven't heard too many complaining at all about Bush, FEMA or local authorities and how it was handled. Not even Moses could just raise his hands and stop a hurricane.
 

fff

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TexasBred said:
fff said:
Texan said:
Since we're picking our favorite quotes from the article, I like this one:


:lol:

I didn't vote for Obama/Biden for their enertainment value. I voted for them in hopes they could get us out of the hole that conservative Republicans have put us in. We've had eight years of laughing at the government as they fail at first one thing, the economy comes to mind, or another, Katrina/Ike.

I'm glad you used the word "government" when you laugh. That includes all the inept politicians in Washington....Katrina ??? That place needs to be flushed out periodically. Ike?? I haven't heard too many complaining at all about Bush, FEMA or local authorities and how it was handled. Not even Moses could just raise his hands and stop a hurricane.

They restricted access to the coast after Ike. But apparently FEMA didn't learn a thing from Katrina.

A top official of the Federal Emergency Management Agency admits that the agency was sluggish in its response to Texans affected by Hurricane Ike's devastation, according to a published report.

Deputy FEMA Administrator Harvey E. Johnson Jr. said he intends to improve the help that the agency provides to Texans whose home were damaged or destroyed by the September hurricane. He said FEMA will deploy mobile homes to the hardest-hit areas more rapidly, review rules that might be causing premature denials of assistance and provide more resources to Texas.

He said Friday he has put more personnel into Texas housing assistance programs. He invited energy company officials into FEMA's Texas field offices to help provide electric power to mobile homes housing storm victims, and he has started a review of procedures that result in relatively few families being approved for assistance when they first apply.

Ike came ashore near Galveston on Sept. 13, causing at least $11 billion in damage to Texas.

Johnson met this past week with local officials in Galveston, the Beaumont-Port Arthur area and Houston.

"I think that I agree with the elected officials I met with," Johnson told the Houston Chronicle. "They all have called and expressed the concern that FEMA is moving too slowly. Within FEMA, there is a renewed sense of energy to redouble or triple our efforts, that we need to box some ears."

Officials in Beaumont, Port Arthur and Orange say they need thousands of temporary homes, particularly for refinery and chemical plant workers who toil in industries crucial to the local economy.

Johnson said FEMA's assessment shows that 2,800 to 5,100 mobile homes are needed in Texas.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27489661/

and Gov Perry agrees with me: http://www.theeagle.com/texas/Perry-takes-aim-at-FEMA-s-response-to-Ike
 

Steve

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Where's Joe?

vacationing at his "expensive retreat" in Nantucket.. for Thanksgiving.. (I guess he couldn't afford Martha's)

(while he is there he could visit his ultra rich elitists buddies and figure out who is getting more bailouts)..
 
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