hypocritexposer said:Lonecowboy, did you know that Obama's mother dumped him with a babysitter 2 weeks after he was born, so she could go to school in Washington State?
Did you also know that her and Obama Sr. never lived together? And that neither one lived at the address that was listed in the newspaper announcement of his birth.
nonothing said:hypocritexposer said:Lonecowboy, did you know that Obama's mother dumped him with a babysitter 2 weeks after he was born, so she could go to school in Washington State?
Did you also know that her and Obama Sr. never lived together? And that neither one lived at the address that was listed in the newspaper announcement of his birth.
and his neighbor john had hemriods so bad he never got to see the child until a week after its birth..
Also the Ice-cream truck drove by three times the day the baby was apperently brought home..The ice cream truck driver said the child never came out once for ice cream that day...Also it was in the mid 80's that day .hmmmmm makes you wonder..
hypocritexposer said:Lonecowboy, did you know that Obama's mother dumped him with a babysitter 2 weeks after he was born, so she could go to school in Washington State?
Did you also know that her and Obama Sr. never lived together? And that neither one lived at the address that was listed in the newspaper announcement of his birth.
nonothing said:Where did all the birthers go?...Its like that whole thing ended.......
nonothing said:Where did all the birthers go?...Its like that whole thing ended.......
Ten Reasons Barry Won’t Show His Birth Certificate
10. It was written on a scroll
9. Kenya was old Hawaii
8. He really was born in 2 hospitals
7. Arugula prices would skyrocket
6. He’s waiting on a sign from Rev Wright
5. Someone name Barry is on it
4. What Happens In Hawaii stays n Hawaii
3. It would make it hard for the next illegal to be president
2. He inherited this question of birth from Bush
1. Nancy Pelosi would not give up speaker of the house
aplusmnt said:nonothing said:Where did all the birthers go?...Its like that whole thing ended.......
You are wanting to stir some crap tonight huh? Your life partner go out and leave you home alone bored or something? :lol:
nonothing said:Where did all the birthers go?...Its like that whole thing ended.......
nonothing said:aplusmnt said:nonothing said:Where did all the birthers go?...Its like that whole thing ended.......
You are wanting to stir some crap tonight huh? Your life partner go out and leave you home alone bored or something? :lol:
I figured you may of needed to come here and call me down asyour wife probably has slapped you silly for making her work to pay your bills....Just think Aplus it could be worse,Tam could be your wife..
WoW!!!!....Just think,your offspring would be know it all bitches for sure...And such a proud mama and papa you would be :wink:
aplusmnt said:nonothing said:aplusmnt said:You are wanting to stir some crap tonight huh? Your life partner go out and leave you home alone bored or something? :lol:
I figured you may of needed to come here and call me down asyour wife probably has slapped you silly for making her work to pay your bills....Just think Aplus it could be worse,Tam could be your wife..
WoW!!!!....Just think,your offspring would be know it all bitches for sure...And such a proud mama and papa you would be :wink:
I am sure Tam would make a good wife! A man can not beat a good conservative woman as his mate! I know I got one! Wife's do not come any better than A Conservative, shame so many men never get to appreciate this!
US Defense Security Service guidelines are very clear in that persons with past allegiance to foreign nations are to undergo security checks to determine whether such allegiance is dangerous to the US:
Conditions that could raise a security concern and may be disqualifying include:
a. The exercise of dual citizenship;
b. Possession and/or use of a foreign passport;
c. Military service or a willingness to bear arms for a foreign country;
d. Accepting educational, medical, or other benefits, such as retirement and social welfare, from a foreign country;
f. Residence in a foreign country to meet citizenship requirements;
g. Using foreign citizenship to protect financial or business interests in another country;
h. Seeking or holding political office in the foreign country;
h. Voting in foreign elections; and
i. Performing or attempting to perform duties, or otherwise acting, so as to serve the interests of another government in preference to the interests of the United States.
Conditions that could mitigate security concerns include:
a. Dual citizenship is based solely on parents’ citizenship or birth in a foreign country;
b. Indicators of possible foreign preference (e.g., foreign military service) occurred before obtaining United States citizenship;
c. Activity is sanctioned by the United States;
d. Individual has expressed a willingness to renounce dual citizenship.
Above Information Courtesy of Defense Security Service (DSS) (Emphasis added.
Federal Statute 50 USC 435. Executive Order 12968.
50 USC 435 is the federal statute concerned with the classification of sensitive information. It empowered Executive Order 12968 which was enacted by President Clinton in 1995. These laws provide the Executive Branch rules for granting security clearance to classified information.
EO 12968 exempts the President and the Vice President from having to pass a security clearance examination. However, both 50 USC 435 and Executive Order 12968 contain the same exact safety provision empowering agency heads to deny access to classified information upon their own discretion.
50 USC 435 states:
Subsection (a) of this section shall not be deemed to limit or affect the responsibility and power of an agency head pursuant to other law or Executive order to deny or terminate access to classified information if the national security so requires. Such responsibility and power may be exercised only when the agency head determines that the procedures prescribed by subsection (a) of this section cannot be invoked in a manner that is consistent with the national security.
Executive order 12968 Section 5.2 (e) states:
(e) This section shall not be deemed to limit or affect the responsibility and power of an agency head pursuant to any law or other Executive order to deny or terminate access to classified information in the interests of national security. The power and responsibility to deny or terminate access to classified information pursuant to any law or other Executive order may be exercised only where the agency head determines that the procedures prescribed in subsection (a) of this section cannot be invoked in a manner that is consistent with national security. This determination shall be conclusive.
Since the President and Vice President are exempted from these regulations, the regulations can’t be invoked in a manner consistent with national security. As such, any agency head who determines that providing the President with classified information is inconsistent with national security may withhold such information.
According to law, such a determination is conclusive. No review is even possible.
President Obama should submit to a full security clearance examination before a national crisis takes place. Agency heads who continue to provide classified information to President Obama do so at the risk of national security. President Obama was a citizen of at least two foreign nations and his passport history is unknown. It appears that he may still be legally subject to the monarchy of Great Britain. This would trigger issues concerning the Master Nationality Rule whenever Obama stands on British soil.
These issues are not trivial. But for Obama being President, he would have to provide everything discussed in the Defense Security guidelines. He is also charged with enforcing those very same guidelines. How can he enforce them with a straight face if he’s never submitted to them himself?
President Obama has never officially renounced or denied his British citizenship. And he has admitted that he was a British citizen at birth. His past is so intertwined with various other nations that it is impossible, without a proper security clearance examination, for agency heads to forward classified information to him without concern. Government agency heads in charge of releasing classified information have the undeniable legal right to deny the President classified information.
Until President Obama’s passport and citizenship status in other nations is thoroughly determined, agency heads who forward him classified information do so with unknown risks to national security.
There are too many unknowns with regard to past allegiance to foreign powers for such information to be passed on safely. Agency heads cannot afford to be shy or afraid of backlash. Their decision is legally conclusive.
There is no transparency here and I do not see why the President himself is not calling for a proper background check on himself.
Why put the agency heads in this position?
It would be a proper start to necessary transparency if Obama would discuss whether he’s ever held a foreign passport and whether he’s ever traveled under a foreign passport. He should also take the official steps necessary to renounce his prior foreign citizenship.
That’s what a statesman would do.
aplusmnt said:nonothing said:I am sure Tam would make a good wife! A man can not beat a good conservative woman as his mate! I know I got one! Wife's do not come any better than A Conservative, shame so many men never get to appreciate this!
reader (the Second) said:backhoeboogie said:nonothing said:Where did all the birthers go?...Its like that whole thing ended.......
You are the ones who blew this out of proportion.
Obama is the one who is hiding something. Why did he go by all those different names in the first place?
There are real issues that need to be resolved/addressed. These real issues are more important to me personally. There are a whole lot of folks in my state bent on leaving the U.S. If that does indeed happen, Obama won't be our president and the birth thing will be an issue with another country.
There is the spending.
There is the decisions many of us made 30 plus years ago about staying with a company for its benefits (including health plans) versus taking more lucrative jobs without benefits. Obama wants to turn that upside down.
There is the spending issues.
There is the investor confidence issues.
There is the consumer confidence issues.
There is all the spending that is no doing what he intended (we told you so) and he wants to spend more.
Would you like for me to go on? The birth thing is just another issue about busting the rules of the constitution that seems to be beyond a private citizens control.
And yes there are people ready to go to war.
It all may still be a joke to you so go ahead and get a good laugh.
Go count the number of posts by hypo and the claims by Sandhusker. This issue took over the forum for a number of months. WE objected to it as a distraction and as ludicrous. From day one we pointed out the vast conspiracy that would have to be in effect that would include Bush, Cheney, Hillary, the Supreme Court, the Congress, the state of Hawaii.
No, the ones who blew it out of proportion were the Orlies, hypos, and Sandhuskers. And a number of you not only were silent but you condoned and entertained it and lacked sufficient skepticism.
I realize I'm just a spectator on the sidelines, but can anyone give a rational explanation for why the bolded phrase even needed to be written. Talk like this is NOT Democrat or Republican---it's just downright disrespectful. Looks to me like someone is looking for a fight :evil:nonothing said:aplusmnt said:nonothing said:I figured you may of needed to come here and call me down asyour wife probably has slapped you silly for making her work to pay your bills....Just think Aplus it could be worse,Tam could be your wife..
WoW!!!!....Just think,your offspring would be know it all bitches for sure...And such a proud mama and papa you would be :wink:
I am sure Tam would make a good wife! A man can not beat a good conservative woman as his mate! I know I got one! Wife's do not come any better than A Conservative, shame so many men never get to appreciate this!
Spoken like a whipped man....what a suck up......
Twister Frost said:I realize I'm just a spectator on the sidelines, but can anyone give a rational explanation for why the bolded phrase even needed to be written. Talk like this is NOT Democrat or Republican---it's just downright disrespectful. Looks to me like someone is looking for a fight :evil:nonothing said:aplusmnt said:I am sure Tam would make a good wife! A man can not beat a good conservative woman as his mate! I know I got one! Wife's do not come any better than A Conservative, shame so many men never get to appreciate this!
Spoken like a whipped man....what a suck up......