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Where does Obama get his money??

Hanta Yo

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Here ya go, loomixguy:



I got this email from a friend who used to live here in Seattle ... but moved to Texas several years ago ...

Anyway it is one of those forwarded messages ... the kind that I usually dont bother reading ... and just click delete ...

But this one is different ... it causes me to think ... and to be worried ...

Worried because I believe that Barack Obama is very likely to win this election ...

-- George

a worried mom wrote:This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking 'where did the money come from for Obama'.

I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans. I started looking into Obama's life.

Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. 'Barry' (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan.

During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a 'round the world' trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? ! Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college.

When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It's not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year.

Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York.
By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association'.

About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for LawSchool? More student loans?

After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented 'Rezar' which is Rezko's firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago.

In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed money' for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property?

On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.

Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?

On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was 'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with 'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran.

This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.

Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?

And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim faith'. When questioned, 'he made a mistake'. Some mistake!

All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times -September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.

Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting this?

A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - 'Beware of the enemy from within'!!!
 

Soapweed

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Be proud, Old Timer. You will get the change that you so desire if you vote for this guy. I just wonder if you will ever look back and think that maybe 2008 wasn't so bad after all. :roll:
 
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Anonymous

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Soapweed said:
Be proud, Old Timer. You will get the change that you so desire if you vote for this guy. I just wonder if you will ever look back and think that maybe 2008 wasn't so bad after all. :roll:

After the total incompetency of the Republican Party and Bush the past almost 8 years- their indebting our children and grandchildren while wrecking our standing in the world- their disregard and disrespect for 200+ years of rule of law-- plus totally fouling almost anything they touched, especially their important task as watchdogs of our economy- I don't think Obama, Paul, Baldwin, or McEnulty could be any worse...
And I can't for the life of me bring myself to vote to thank the Repubs for this incompetency...I saw it best summed up on another site by another Independent that feels the same as I do about not being able to give them a "golden parachute"....

The republicans need a vacation to decide who/what they want to be; and 4 years of Obama will help Americans decide what kind of government they want...I think it will be a mix of economic principles; and how we treat other countries of the world? we`ll see.
 

backhoeboogie

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OT you are going to become a traitor to all the things our forefathers fought to give us.

Hussein already does not like amendments to the constitution he is going to swear an oath too. He is already getting his "big brother" watchers ready.
 
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backhoeboogie said:
OT you are going to become a traitor to all the things our forefathers fought to give us.

Hussein already does not like amendments to the constitution he is going to swear an oath too. He is already getting his "big brother" watchers ready.

And Bush/Cheney- backed by the Repub Congress didn't :???:

We are at the point of the greatest Constitutional crisis we've ever had on Administrative powers- as even Nixon and his advisors acknowledged the Congress's right to oversight and authority to make law....
 

alice

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backhoeboogie said:
OT you are going to become a traitor to all the things our forefathers fought to give us.

Hussein already does not like amendments to the constitution he is going to swear an oath too. He is already getting his "big brother" watchers ready.

I don't think so, Boogie...

Bush and Cheney have taken the U.S. to hell in a handbasket. The country I love no longer exists. I want that to be different soooo badly. And maybe it can...but not with four to eight more years of Bush...

Alice :)
 

jcummins

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OT you need to get your head out of your arse.

Read this.
NOTE the date…

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink



That hair lipped SOB Franks and his Dems buddies killed it.

And watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_597487

Now…tell me what you don’t understand.
 
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Anonymous

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jcummins said:
OT you need to get your head out of your arse.

Read this.
NOTE the date…

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink



That hair lipped SOB Franks and his Dems buddies killed it.

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That was in 2003-How is that possible Dems killed it- Repubs controlled Congress- or did some Repubs vote against it too :???:

Fannie and Freddie never would have been allowed to do the casino type trading and swapping without the passage of the 2000 banking and energy deregulation bills pushed thru by McCains #1 economic advisor "Foreclosure Phil" Gramm ( or "Enron Scandal" Gramm- whichever you prefer because he allowed them both)....The whole crew in D.C. allowed it to happen with Lobbyiest money coming before the countries interests....

But--Where was your Champion GW the last couple years/months as the economy has been falling :???: Where was Paulson :???: Cox :???: Obama, Barr, Paul, etal have been echoing the problems of the economy for well over a year...Bush couldn't even learn to say the word "recession"..Up until 2 weeks ago (Sept 25th) even on the day the Fed nationalized AIG and Washington Mutual closed their doors--both he and McSame were both speachifying saying "the fundamentals of the economy are strong"..... :roll:
Next thing I know is they are telling us the country is "on the brink of economic disaster" and in "dire straits"- and they need the taxpayers to give their Banker buddies $700 Billion ..... :eek: :shock: :???: :?

When I heard Bush a few months ago at a press conference, shocked by the suggestion of $4+ gasoline this summer- and saying he'd never heard of that prediction- I knew he'd lost all touch with the real world and the "average/common person"- I remember asking "heaven help us" as I said a little prayer as I knew that this country/economy was in much worse shape than I'd thought before hand with a total idiot at the helm....

And McSame has mirrored his policies to a heartbeat !!! :(
 

movin' on

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The amount of sheer, unbridled stupidity on this site is absolutely incredible.

Hanta Yo, thanks for that forward. Please bear in mind that there are many, many intelligent people that are starting to see articles like that and are slowly raising there eyebrows. The more curiosity we can generate, the more people will start to dig deeper and investigate on their own and discover the awful truths surrounding Barry O. I'm not really big on forwards, either, but it is up to us to spread the word.

I sure hope we can get this cancer stopped before, as Soapweed alluded to, we look back on 2008 as the year we lost America. :( :(
 

mytfarms

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I agree with Hanta Yo and movin' on. This could very well be this country's most momentous election for a long time to come. :shock: The guy who gets into the office will be able to appoint new judges to office and arguably wield the power of his party more mightily than ever before. This could be a good thing for America if a man representing conservative's beliefs gets elected. :D However, with Obama in office, I fear I might have to move to Scotland. After all, I do raise Angus! :)
 

jcummins

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OT ---- First….I don’t like Bush. He has WAY over spent. The fiscal responsibility that the Republicans historically have had…he screwed up. And there is blame on BOTH parties. Everyone was ignoring the problem, but Bush’s proposal was blocked by Franks. He tried….the signals was there. And McCain also tried in 2005. There is a hellva lot more wrong with the liberal side who point fingers in the wrong direction.

Affordable housing….done by bankrupting everyone else to drag them down to their level. Instead….education to train them to hold jobs so they can afford the housing. What is missing also, and which cannot be legislated, is the personal responsibility that needs to go along with it.

The democrats have had the power in both houses for the last 2+ years. What policies have come out of Washington to improve the economics? What has Obama proposed in the last 2 years? If what McCain proposed in 2005 was adopted we would not be doing this bailout.

Read this:


Lawmaker Accused of Fannie Mae Conflict of Interest
Friday, October 03, 2008

By Bill Sammon

E-Mail Respond Print Share:

WASHINGTON — Unqualified home buyers were not the only ones who benefitted from Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank’s efforts to deregulate Fannie Mae throughout the 1990s.

So did Frank’s partner, a Fannie Mae executive at the forefront of the agency’s push to relax lending restrictions.

Now that Fannie Mae is at the epicenter of a financial meltdown that threatens the U.S. economy, some are raising new questions about Frank's relationship with Herb Moses, who was Fannie’s assistant director for product initiatives. Moses worked at the government-sponsored enterprise from 1991 to 1998, while Frank was on the House Banking Committee, which had jurisdiction over Fannie.

Both Frank and Moses assured the Wall Street Journal in 1992 that they took pains to avoid any conflicts of interest. Critics, however, remain skeptical.

"It’s absolutely a conflict," said Dan Gainor, vice president of the Business & Media Institute. "He was voting on Fannie Mae at a time when he was involved with a Fannie Mae executive. How is that not germane?

"If this had been his ex-wife and he was Republican, I would bet every penny I have - or at least what’s not in the stock market - that this would be considered germane," added Gainor, a T. Boone Pickens Fellow. "But everybody wants to avoid it because he’s gay. It’s the quintessential double standard."

A top GOP House aide agreed.

"C’mon, he writes housing and banking laws and his boyfriend is a top exec at a firm that stands to gain from those laws?" the aide told FOX News. "No media ever takes note? Imagine what would happen if Frank’s political affiliation was R instead of D? Imagine what the media would say if [GOP former] Chairman [Mike] Oxley’s wife or [GOP presidential nominee John] McCain’s wife was a top exec at Fannie for a decade while they wrote the nation’s housing and banking laws."

Frank’s office did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Frank met Moses in 1987, the same year he became the first openly gay member of Congress.

"I am the only member of the congressional gay spouse caucus," Moses wrote in the Washington Post in 1991. "On Capitol Hill, Barney always introduces me as his lover."

The two lived together in a Washington home until they broke up in 1998, a few months after Moses ended his seven-year tenure at Fannie Mae, where he was the assistant director of product initiatives. According to National Mortgage News, Moses "helped develop many of Fannie Mae’s affordable housing and home improvement lending programs."

Critics say such programs led to the mortgage meltdown that prompted last month’s government takeover of Fannie Mae and its financial cousin, Freddie Mac. The giant firms are blamed for spreading bad mortgages throughout the private financial sector.

Although Frank now blames Republicans for the failure of Fannie and Freddie, he spent years blocking GOP lawmakers from imposing tougher regulations on the mortgage giants. In 1991, the year Moses was hired by Fannie, the Boston Globe reported that Frank pushed the agency to loosen regulations on mortgages for two- and three-family homes, even though they were defaulting at twice and five times the rate of single homes, respectively.

Three years later, President Clinton’s Department of Housing and Urban Development tried to impose a new regulation on Fannie, but was thwarted by Frank. Clinton now blames such Democrats for planting the seeds of today’s economic crisis.

"I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac," Clinton said recently.
 

Sandhusker

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You can't look at this mess with a rational mind and not see liberal politics all over it, with Barney Frank's fingerprints on top.
 

MsSage

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Hanta I am SOOO SORRY
I DO NOT agree with obama but we can not give the left any reson to doubt what we say.

He got his money from student loans.........NO a white male can not get enough to go on a trip anywhere BUT a minority can get extra.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp



The house, yes was a "sweet" deal he also didnt have any "junk fees" added as 99% of americans do not know to look for.
http://realestate.msn.com/Buying/Article_bankrate.aspx?cp-documentid=10658478


I am waiting to see how snopes reports this.....
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/obamas_foreign_contributions/
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loomixguy

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Thanks for posting this for me, Hanta Yo. Maybe by the time I can retire I can learn all sorts of computer skills.


This is the real deal, folks. This is the candidate of the Democrat Party. His ties and allegencies are a matter of public record. He wants to silence his critics with Chicago style political thuggery. Why? If he is as honest and forthright as he would have you imagine, why should he try to hide anything?

Granted, Johnny Mac comes with his own set of demons. There ain't a one of us but what would like to change a few things we did along the way for the past 30+ years. None of us are as pure as the driven snow.

For my money, I don't care what church he has attended for the last 20 years, THE SOB AT THE VERY CORE OF HIS FOUNDATION IS A MUSLIM! How many times has he accidentally slipped out the words "my Muslim faith" while flapping his lips? He is as phony as a three dollar bill.

Although Johnny Mac is not the answer to a maiden's prayer, he is, at this point in time and history, the only hope for the United States. If the ONE gets elected, the door to the henhouse will be permanently open. Then, we'll damn well get the change that Old Komrade and others are wetting themsleves with desire for!

Think about it.
 
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Anonymous

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Its interesting how McCain has again flipflopped his campaign- and is refusing to talk the issues- rather concentrating on how bad Obama is...The "Obama is a Muslim" "Obama is the antichrist" "Obama is pals of terrorists" worked on a few of the uneducated right off (that will never change)- but in the long run it didn't work for Hillary- and it didn't work for McCain early in the race- and I don't think is working now...In fact its doing the opposite- as most the Independents that think beyond the (R) and the (D) are smart enough to see thru the Rove "swiftboating" tactics anymore- and now want issues not mud e-mails...

Many are probably sitting out there feeling like I do and wishing they had voted for Kerry-as maybe he would have at least cared what the price of gas was going to be- and might have had a Treasury Secretary that wasn't asleep at the wheel..

But I can see why McCain doesn't want to talk issues- since they mirror GW's that put us where we are today...

Then I looked at today's poll articles and can see- a Desperation move...

Interesting also- as these polls were mostly over the weekend-when Obama's numbers are at their lowest...
Obama Maintains Lead in the National Polls
Four tracking polls published yesterday all show Barack Obama leading John McCain. The results are Diageo (Obama +7), Gallup (Obama +7), Rasmussen (Obama +7), and Research 2000 (Obama +12).

Today's Polls
We have four presidential polls today. In Maine and New Mexico, Obama is holding his small but consistent lead of 5 points. More worrisome for McCain is Ohio, where Obama is now ahead by 7 points. As Steve Schmidt well knows, no Republican has ever won the White House while losing Ohio. In Pennsylvania, Obama now holds a 10-point lead. While most observers expected Obama to carry Pennsylvania (a must-win state for him), no one expected it to be a blowout.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/
 

movin' on

Well-known member
Yes, you're right, Oldtimer..............the price of a gallon of gasoline is WAY more important than whether or not our next president is a muslim extremist.

You're smarter than that.

This is not slinging mud........this is getting extremely crucial and vital information to the public.

If McCain had half, and I mean literally half, of the dirty laundry that Obama has, he would have dropped off of the radar screen months ago. It just baffles me that Obama hasn't been swept under the rug the way his past has by now, but he will be.
 

TexasBred

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Oldtimer said:
Its interesting how McCain has again flipflopped his campaign- and is refusing to talk the issues- rather concentrating on how bad Obama is...The "Obama is a Muslim" "Obama is the antichrist" "Obama is pals of terrorists" worked on a few of the uneducated right off (that will never change)- but in the long run it didn't work for Hillary- and it didn't work for McCain early in the race- and I don't think is working now...In fact its doing the opposite- as most the Independents that think beyond the (R) and the (D) are smart enough to see thru the Rove "swiftboating" tactics anymore- and now want issues not mud e-mails...

Many are probably sitting out there feeling like I do and wishing they had voted for Kerry-as maybe he would have at least cared what the price of gas was going to be- and might have had a Treasury Secretary that wasn't asleep at the wheel..

But I can see why McCain doesn't want to talk issues- since they mirror GW's that put us where we are today...

Then I looked at today's poll articles and can see- a Desperation move...

Interesting also- as these polls were mostly over the weekend-when Obama's numbers are at their lowest...
Obama Maintains Lead in the National Polls
Four tracking polls published yesterday all show Barack Obama leading John McCain. The results are Diageo (Obama +7), Gallup (Obama +7), Rasmussen (Obama +7), and Research 2000 (Obama +12).

Today's Polls
We have four presidential polls today. In Maine and New Mexico, Obama is holding his small but consistent lead of 5 points. More worrisome for McCain is Ohio, where Obama is now ahead by 7 points. As Steve Schmidt well knows, no Republican has ever won the White House while losing Ohio. In Pennsylvania, Obama now holds a 10-point lead. While most observers expected Obama to carry Pennsylvania (a must-win state for him), no one expected it to be a blowout.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

OT....Obama has mislead us long enough. I think it's time ALL the facts about his life are made public...the good and the bad. And let the people decide having been exposed to ALL the facts.
 

fff

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
You can't look at this mess with a rational mind and not see liberal politics all over it, with Barney Frank's fingerprints on top.

"Liberal politics!" Get real. The financial crisis facing this country is conservative politics. George W. Bush, his Administration, the Republican Congress for 12 years, all of them voiced YOUR belief that we don't need government oversight. Well, we didn't have it in the banking industry and look what you've got now. ROTFLMAO! "Liberal politics".......what a laugh. I don't believe folks on main street are buying that one these days. :lol: :lol:

10/6: Gallup Pres-Tracker: Obama 50%, McCain 42%

10/6: Hotline/Diageo Pres-Tracker: Obama 47%, McCain 41%

10/6: Rasmussen Pres-Tracker: Obama 52%, McCain 44%

10/6: Res. 2000 Pres-Tracker: Obama 52%, McCain 40%

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/pres_08/

A Democrat hasn't taken Virginia's electoral votes since 1964, yet Obama has taken a 10 point lead there in the latest polls.
 
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TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
Its interesting how McCain has again flipflopped his campaign- and is refusing to talk the issues- rather concentrating on how bad Obama is...The "Obama is a Muslim" "Obama is the antichrist" "Obama is pals of terrorists" worked on a few of the uneducated right off (that will never change)- but in the long run it didn't work for Hillary- and it didn't work for McCain early in the race- and I don't think is working now...In fact its doing the opposite- as most the Independents that think beyond the (R) and the (D) are smart enough to see thru the Rove "swiftboating" tactics anymore- and now want issues not mud e-mails...

Many are probably sitting out there feeling like I do and wishing they had voted for Kerry-as maybe he would have at least cared what the price of gas was going to be- and might have had a Treasury Secretary that wasn't asleep at the wheel..

But I can see why McCain doesn't want to talk issues- since they mirror GW's that put us where we are today...

Then I looked at today's poll articles and can see- a Desperation move...

Interesting also- as these polls were mostly over the weekend-when Obama's numbers are at their lowest...
Obama Maintains Lead in the National Polls
Four tracking polls published yesterday all show Barack Obama leading John McCain. The results are Diageo (Obama +7), Gallup (Obama +7), Rasmussen (Obama +7), and Research 2000 (Obama +12).

Today's Polls
We have four presidential polls today. In Maine and New Mexico, Obama is holding his small but consistent lead of 5 points. More worrisome for McCain is Ohio, where Obama is now ahead by 7 points. As Steve Schmidt well knows, no Republican has ever won the White House while losing Ohio. In Pennsylvania, Obama now holds a 10-point lead. While most observers expected Obama to carry Pennsylvania (a must-win state for him), no one expected it to be a blowout.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

OT....Obama has mislead us long enough. I think it's time ALL the facts about his life are made public...the good and the bad. And let the people decide having been exposed to ALL the facts.

Problem is Texasbred- so much of this stuff coming out of the McCain
campaign in his decision to use Karl Rovian tactics is false and an absolute lie- and just like with this other post- people are checking it out and finding out its a lie- and how untruthful and deceptive McCain is...Something that if they then check further they find to be his entire history... :(

Just because of this stuff- many of the news sources have now started Factcheck websites- to check the facts- and show that many of these are absolute falsehoods....
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=303368#303368
 

Sandhusker

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fff said:
Sandhusker said:
You can't look at this mess with a rational mind and not see liberal politics all over it, with Barney Frank's fingerprints on top.

"Liberal politics!" Get real. The financial crisis facing this country is conservative politics. George W. Bush, his Administration, the Republican Congress for 12 years, all of them voiced YOUR belief that we don't need government oversight. Well, we didn't have it in the banking industry and look what you've got now. ROTFLMAO! "Liberal politics".......what a laugh. I don't believe folks on main street are buying that one these days. :lol: :lol:

10/6: Gallup Pres-Tracker: Obama 50%, McCain 42%

10/6: Hotline/Diageo Pres-Tracker: Obama 47%, McCain 41%

10/6: Rasmussen Pres-Tracker: Obama 52%, McCain 44%

10/6: Res. 2000 Pres-Tracker: Obama 52%, McCain 40%

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/pres_08/

A Democrat hasn't taken Virginia's electoral votes since 1964, yet Obama has taken a 10 point lead there in the latest polls.

Yes, LIBERAL politics. All this crap started with this liberal notion that everybody is entitled to a house, and if they can't afford one via the time tested underwriting methods, the underwriting methods have to be changed. There's a lot of people responsible for this mess, but Barney Frank is at the top of the list.
 
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