While watching the debate tonight..........

[mrj]

it just might be interesting to notice how Obama seems very controlled and careful not to reveal what he really believes from either personal life experiences, or his own thoughts on issues.

He seems to be holding back and cautious, not open at all, careful to make no quick comment about his long held ideas, and extremely reluctant to tell who his friends were during his college years.

Why would he be so cautious, even fearful?

We do not know him, and it seems he does not want us to!

mrj

 

[TSR]

it just might be interesting to notice how Obama seems very controlled and careful not to reveal what he really believes from either personal life experiences, or his own thoughts on issues.

He seems to be holding back and cautious, not open at all, careful to make no quick comment about his long held ideas, and extremely reluctant to tell who his friends were during his college years.

Why would he be so cautious, even fearful?

We do not know him, and it seems he does not want us to!

mrj

Well in the past he has spoken of living on food stamps because they were so poor. I guess maybe some can identify with that, maybe more in the future, who knows??

 

[kolanuraven]

Would it not seem wise to be cautious with ANY answer you give?


We have had a Pres who rushed into things and it lead to an unnecessary war and deaths in a country that was no danger to us.


I'd say a person who pratices caution is just what is needed.

We've had one already who claims he ' shoots from the hip'....and see where it's got us????

 

[Vision]

it just might be interesting to notice how Obama seems very controlled and careful not to reveal what he really believes from either personal life experiences, or his own thoughts on issues.

He seems to be holding back and cautious, not open at all, careful to make no quick comment about his long held ideas, and extremely reluctant to tell who his friends were during his college years.

Why would he be so cautious, even fearful?

We do not know him, and it seems he does not want us to!

mrj

Well in the past he has spoken of living on food stamps because they were so poor. I guess maybe some can identify with that, maybe more in the future, who knows??

Which is why he went to Ivy League schools.

 

[jigs]

so far, in this debate, I am more solidified that McCain is the better choice for America, and Obama just needs hauled over the hill, put two rounds in the head, kicked into the ravine, and left for the coyotes. what a friggin waste of sperm he is

 

[loomixguy]

Why waste good ammo? An icepick will yield the same results.

 

[Vision]

McCain did better at the beginning but Obama did better at the end. Mostly because McCain did not jump all over Obama when he spoke total nonsense on some foreign policy issues.

McCain was just better on the economy when he talked about his record of cutting spending, reigning in corruption and opposing his own party at times when it was needed. McCain is right about this folks. If you think the credit crunch is bad now. Unless this debt gets under control the crunch that will come will make 1929 look like romper room.

One example on foreign policy is Iran and North Korea. Four years ago from the Democrats it was the United States does everything unilaterally and we need to work with our neighbors. So we did just that and let France & Germany work diplomacy on Iran while we gave our support for the talks. It got no where. It just bought Iran time. Now Iran has told the UN to cram it.

In North Korea Carter and Clinton did unilateral talks with the North Koreans, gave them all sorts of goodies in treasure and what did we get? A nuclear North Korea. So Bush worked hard to get the 6 party talks with Japan, China, South Korea and Russia to all lean on North Korea and they suspended their program. And now from time to time they threaten to start it up but that is North Korea, it is how they do things. The rub is, the Democrats were totally opposed to the 6 party talks and wanted direct talks again.

The reality is that no matter what we do, whether it worked or not, the Democrats proclaim the opposite.

Editor

 

[Anonymous]

Our First Reaction from Tonights Debate
October 7, 2008 — iusbvision

McCain did better at the beginning but Obama did better at the end. Mostly because McCain did not jump all over Obama when he spoke total nonsense on some foriegn policy issues.

One example is Iran and North Korea. Four years ago from the Democrats it was the United States does everything unilaterally and we need to work with our neighbors. So we did just that and let France & Germany work diplomacy on Iran while we gave our support for the talks. It got no where. It just bought Iran time. Now Iran has told the UN to cram it.

In North Korea Carter and Clinton did unilateral talks with the North Koreans, gave them all sorts of goodies in treasure and what did we get? A nuclear North Korea. So Bush worked hard to get the 6 party talks with Japan, China, South Korea and Russia to all lean on North Korea and they suspended their program. And now from time to time they threaten to start it up but that is North Korea, it is how they do things. The rub is, the Democrats were totally opposed to the 6 party talks and wanted direct talks again.

The reality is that no matter what we do, whether it worked or not, the Democrats proclaim the opposite.

You forgot the Millions $ appeasement money Bush paid Korea to stop the program...

 

[Vision]

Our First Reaction from Tonights Debate
October 7, 2008 — iusbvision

McCain did better at the beginning but Obama did better at the end. Mostly because McCain did not jump all over Obama when he spoke total nonsense on some foriegn policy issues.

One example is Iran and North Korea. Four years ago from the Democrats it was the United States does everything unilaterally and we need to work with our neighbors. So we did just that and let France & Germany work diplomacy on Iran while we gave our support for the talks. It got no where. It just bought Iran time. Now Iran has told the UN to cram it.

In North Korea Carter and Clinton did unilateral talks with the North Koreans, gave them all sorts of goodies in treasure and what did we get? A nuclear North Korea. So Bush worked hard to get the 6 party talks with Japan, China, South Korea and Russia to all lean on North Korea and they suspended their program. And now from time to time they threaten to start it up but that is North Korea, it is how they do things. The rub is, the Democrats were totally opposed to the 6 party talks and wanted direct talks again.

The reality is that no matter what we do, whether it worked or not, the Democrats proclaim the opposite.

You forgot the Millions $ appeasement money Bush paid Korea to stop the program...

That was Carter and Clinton....

READ - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-party_talks

Old Timer almost every "fact" you have spouted that I have seen has been provably wrong in about 15 seconds of searching the public record.

 

[Vision]

On Iraq McCain should just have said look, Saddam was giving money and support to terrorists all over the world and while most of his WMD stock pile was gone he preserved the programs to reproduce those weapons in violation of the cease fire agreement and UN Resolutions. After 9/11 we could not let that behavior go on and the Congress voted likewise. What is important is the here and the now and in the here and the now Obama has been wrong on step after step.

 

[Anonymous]

Our First Reaction from Tonights Debate
October 7, 2008 — iusbvision

McCain did better at the beginning but Obama did better at the end. Mostly because McCain did not jump all over Obama when he spoke total nonsense on some foriegn policy issues.

One example is Iran and North Korea. Four years ago from the Democrats it was the United States does everything unilaterally and we need to work with our neighbors. So we did just that and let France & Germany work diplomacy on Iran while we gave our support for the talks. It got no where. It just bought Iran time. Now Iran has told the UN to cram it.

In North Korea Carter and Clinton did unilateral talks with the North Koreans, gave them all sorts of goodies in treasure and what did we get? A nuclear North Korea. So Bush worked hard to get the 6 party talks with Japan, China, South Korea and Russia to all lean on North Korea and they suspended their program. And now from time to time they threaten to start it up but that is North Korea, it is how they do things. The rub is, the Democrats were totally opposed to the 6 party talks and wanted direct talks again.

The reality is that no matter what we do, whether it worked or not, the Democrats proclaim the opposite.

You forgot the Millions $ appeasement money Bush paid Korea to stop the program...

That was Carter and Clinton....

READ - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-party_talks

Old Timer almost every "fact" you have spouted that I have seen has been provably wrong in about 15 seconds of searching the public record.

Bush paid $2.5 just for the destruction of the reactor...They've been paying appeasement money since at least 2004...

The United States also agreed to pay North Korea $2.5 million -- down from $5 million originally demanded by Pyongyang -- for the televised destruction last week of the steel-reinforced concrete cooling tower attached to the Yongbyon nuclear facility, congressional sources said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/01/AR2008070102847.html

 

[Vision]

You forgot the Millions $ appeasement money Bush paid Korea to stop the program...

That was Carter and Clinton....

READ - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-party_talks

Old Timer almost every "fact" you have spouted that I have seen has been provably wrong in about 15 seconds of searching the public record.

Bush paid $2.5 just for the destruction of the reactor...They've been paying appeasement money since at least 2004...

The United States also agreed to pay North Korea $2.5 million -- down from $5 million originally demanded by Pyongyang -- for the televised destruction last week of the steel-reinforced concrete cooling tower attached to the Yongbyon nuclear facility, congressional sources said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/01/AR2008070102847.html

Paying for the destruction of nuclear material and nuclear weapons is not goodies - its SMART policy.

Did you know that we bought up much of the old Soviet nuclear arsenal so we could destroy it responsibly. It sure beats that stuff being sold on the black market. It was called the Nunn/Lugar Legislation.

Get a brain.