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"White Guilt" Suspends School Student?

Mike

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A New Jersey high school student says he was suspended from school after refusing to remove a Confederate flag on his truck.

Gregory Vied, 17, told News12.com he was suspended for flying the flag on his pickup truck, which was parked in a student lot at Steinert High School in Hamilton Township.

Vied says he refused to remove the flag despite repeated warnings from administrators. He says he understands the history of the flag, but that he sees it only as a representation of Southern pride and a connection to relatives from the South.

"Them trying to make me take it down is unconstitutional," Vied said.

The American Civil Liberties Union told the station that Vied's right to freedom of expression cannot be limited, even if there are complaints from students or teachers.

"As the U.S. Supreme Court has made clear, students' rights don't end at the school house gates," ACLU Legal Director Ed Barocas said. "It also doesn't end in the school parking lot."

Vied's three-day suspension was cut to one day after the ACLU sent a letter to the principal stating that school officials would have to prove the banned speech would "materially and substantially" disrupt operations at the school.

News12.com reported that some of Vied's friends have shown their support by coming to school with Confederate flags on their cars and trucks, though none of them have been suspended.

The superintendent of schools refused to comment to News12.com on the suspension, citing student privacy reasons.
 

Steve

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He was reportedly allowed to return to school on Thursday, but was told that his truck would be towed if he continued to fly the flag,

When flown with flags of states, communities, or societies on separate flag poles which are of the same height and in a straight line, the flag of the United States is always placed in the position of honor - to its own right.
..The other flags may be smaller but none may be larger.
..No other flag ever should be placed above it.


To tar the sacrifices of the Confederate soldier as simple acts of racism, and reduce the battle flag under which he fought to nothing more than the symbol of a racist heritage, is one of the great blasphemies of our modern age.”
 

kolanuraven

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Hmmmm....I wonder what the rules are here for displaying the Confederate flag, there are several flags that were used in that time, on school prop.?

It's a part of our history that CAN NOT be denied. You can't hide it, you can't run from it....you HAVE to understand it and where and why it fits into history.

AND the war was NOT all about slavery.....
 

Mike

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AND the war was NOT all about slavery.....

Funny, that's not how history is/was written.

The Confederate States did nothing different than their ancestors just one/two generations before them.

They simply seceded from oppression.
 

Steve

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KolanuRaven said:
Hmmmm....I wonder what the rules are here for displaying the Confederate flag

The CSA flag is given the same protection from burning and desecration as the U.S. flag in five U.S. states: Florida,[82] Georgia,[83] Louisiana,[84] Mississippi,[85] and South Carolina.



the actual rule is fairly easy to understand,..
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[1]

. The United States Supreme Court in Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), and reaffirmed in U.S. v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 (1990), has ruled that due to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, it is unconstitutional for a government (whether federal, state, or municipality) to prohibit the desecration of a flag,

Confederate flag

The battle flag of the Confederate States of America (CSA) has sometimes been burned in protest.

This was criticized by a representative of the Anti-Defamation League who said that it was more effective to work with the police and other authorities rather than to engage in "tactics which inflame and exacerbate situations."[81] The CSA flag is given the same protection from burning and desecration as the U.S. flag

However, laws banning the desecration of any flag, even if technically remaining in effect, were ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in Texas v. Johnson, and are not enforceable.[87]

so basically flying or displaying the flag is free speech as well,.. and like religion schools can't support it.. nor ban it..




some folk say they believe laws are fair and just if the SCOTUS rules it so,
yet still criticize others beliefs on the issue..
 
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