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who ordered the stand-down?

Steve

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I have felt it wasn't so much as an order to stand down as the exact opposite that no one authorized a rescue mission...

this new revelation shows that may be the case..

so where was he? It may be the question that is not getting asked.. is the most important key to understanding what happened.

I don't know how many times that I made the statement on this program, "The secretary of defense cannot order people to stand down. The secretary of defense cannot order, on the other hand, forces from, say, Italy to enter the theater and engage. That has to come via the chain of command. That has to come from the top, and the top in this case is Obama,

"At approximately 5 PM Washington time, reports came in through secure-channels that Special Mission Benghazi was under attack. Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, summoned the President, and briefed him on the crisis, face to face. Subsequent to that brief meeting, President Obama proceeded to the White House to dine in his living quarters.

"A critical question that needed to be answered, and the sole military-order that could have launched offensive-actions, neutralizing the Ansar al Sharia terrorists attacks on the Mission and its subsequent attacks on the adjacent CIA Annex, was the issuance of 'Cross Border Authority', an order that can only be issued by the Commander in Chief, himself."
And Cross Border Authority was denied.

"First, it is reported that an Army Special Forces team was present with an AC-130U Spooky (also known as a Spectre Gunship) on the tarmac at the airport in Tripoli, Libya." It was ready to go. It was equipped with weapons that sync with laser designators, like those that Woods, Doherty, and Ubben had on that -- remember, now, one of the things that always intrigue or puzzled me, these four guys -- well, these three guys plus the ambassador, they were ordered to stand down and they went anyway. And I think it was Woods what was painting the enemy location with a laser, because he thought that there was aircraft in the sky that was gonna aim laser-guided bombs at the target that he was painting. That didn't happen because there was no C-130 up there.

There was no air support. They were on their own. The order to stand down had been given. But they went anyway. It was their instinct, their sense of duty. So what Woods ended up doing was giving up his own location rather than painting an enemy location for a laser-guided bomb to come from that C-130. Now, "Had the AC-130U been on station, over the CIA Annex in Benghazi, moments before the mortar rounds were fired, instead of 'awaiting further instructions,' the entire outcome of the Benghazi fiasco would have been different."

Now, if this is true, it would certainly explain, ladies and gentlemen, all of the serial lies and the cover-ups and the obfuscation and all of the efforts that were made to distract people's attention from this. Somebody had to give the order, and Obama was off the grid. That has always, to me, been one of the most interesting aspects of Benghazi. Five o'clock he tells Panetta and whoever else -- we were originally told that Hillary, secretary of state, was there, too.

"You guys handle it. I'm off," and there's been a bunch of speculation. "Maybe he was playing basketball, shooting hoops, who knows? Was he on the putting green?" But people were trying to find out where he was. He's off the grid for five to seven hours, and yet somebody issued the order to stand down.

there is speculation that Valerie Jarrett was calling the shots that night..
or more honestly not allowing the president to be informed or allowed to call the shot..

so what was he doing that he could not be disturbed as our consular and CIA complex was being attacked?

I think my original "Obama was taking a nap".. understates the obvious..

but if she was calling the shots,.. my only question is who elected her?

"A critical question that needed to be answered, and the sole military-order that could have launched offensive-actions, neutralizing the Ansar al Sharia terrorists attacks on the Mission and its subsequent attacks on the adjacent CIA Annex, was the issuance of 'Cross Border Authority', an order that can only be issued by the Commander in Chief, himself."
And Cross Border Authority was denied.

"At approximately 5 PM Washington time, reports came in through secure-channels that Special Mission Benghazi was under attack. Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey summoned the President, and briefed him on the crisis, face to face." And, remember, this is the meeting where Obama is reported to have said to both -- well, actually all three, Panetta, Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and Hillary. "You guys do what you have to do," and he vanishes. This is the best intel that we've got. And the story for the longest time, "Where was Obama?" Because he was off the grid for the next seven hours. Nobody knew where he was. And, remember, throughout all of this, we're all asking, "Who issued the order to stand down?" Because that can only come from the top.

"Confidential sources close to Conservative Report have confirmed that Valerie Jarrett was the key decision-maker for the administration, the night of the Benghazi terrorist attack on 9/11/2012.

As that meeting drew to a close, Ms. Jarrett, who is also the Assistant to the President for Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs, went from the living quarters to the White House Situation Room, where the attack in Benghazi was being monitored by Dempsey, Panetta and other top-ranking officials. Whether she was instructed by the President to go there, or if she went of her own volition..." It is only known by her and Obama if she went there on her own or if she was told to go there.

Somebody gave the stand-down order, and Doug Ross's website is claiming that Valerie Jarrett did it. And so the question that is unanswered, did Obama tell her?

when the early claims of gun running came out.. it was a conspiracy,.. now while not confirmed it is clear it was happening,.. we just don't know to what extent...

the only fact we do know is that Obama was not there as this unfolded.. and four men died,.. with countless others injured while our forces stood by unable to respond.
 

Traveler

Well-known member
They were the wrong race for the Administration to save or give a damn about. Haven't recent events made that obvious?
 
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