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Why Don't Liberals See Gun Ownership as "Choice"?

Soapweed

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Carol Platt Liebau

Blogger, Townhall.com

Apr 17, 2013 07:23 PM EST

The fury of the left is unbridled in the wake of the gun control bill's failure. But here's the problem for those who want to push big changes on gun laws: Only 4% of Americans deem guns and gun control a top priority, according to Gallup. What's more, unlike the abortion issue -- where the passion on both pro-life and pro-choice/abortion sides is relatively evenly matched -- in the gun context, those who believe in Second Amendment freedoms have far more intensity than those on the gun control side.

A puzzling contradiction again manifested itself in the President's angry statement. What's always surprising to me is that abortion/choice proponents aren't more understanding of the conviction pro-gun people feel about their "right to choose" (to own a gun). Abortion/choice advocates always insist that if -- at the extreme -- abortion were outlawed, there would be more "back alley" abortions, i.e., more dangerous abortions because they are less regulated (although Kermit Gosnell has certainly put the lie to that claim); on the other hand, fewer abortions overall would be performed. Similarly, pro-gun people point out that if extreme gun control passes, only criminals will have guns. In other words, both sides acknowledge that the law can exert enormous influence on the behavior of law-abiding people when it comes to making choices (whether to own guns or have abortions).

So here's the paradox: Liberals may not support a woman's right to carry a gun, but they certainly believe she should be able to get an abortion if she is impregnated by rape. Pro-life conservatives (many of whom do support exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother) would prefer that a woman avoid getting raped in the first place by being able to blow her attacker away with a gun.

Abortion/choice proponents may argue that the freedom to own guns means that a lot of innocent people will get killed. But pro-lifers would respond that, with abortion, an innocent person is always killed. And unlike abortion (except in rare cases like those performed to save the life of the mother), guns can actually serve to protect the innocent through self-defense.

Aside from the rare and heartbreaking cases involving rape/incest/life of the mother, when it comes to "choice" as defined by law-abiding abortion proponents vs. "choice" as defined by law-abiding gun rights advocates, it seems readily apparent which is more easily defensible.
 

Whitewing

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Rationalizing how liberals think is about as productive as trying to figure out what was here before the universe existed. I suspect you'll have the latter figured out before the former.
 

Mike

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Soapweed said:
LIBERAL HYPOCRISY - Blaming every law-abiding gun owner for deaths of children, while supporting abortion. :roll:

According to some, if their Doctor says it's OK to kill child, then so-be-it.
 

Whitewing

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Mike said:
Soapweed said:
LIBERAL HYPOCRISY - Blaming every law-abiding gun owner for deaths of children, while supporting abortion. :roll:

According to some, if their Doctor says it's OK to kill child, then so-be-it.

I think the idea was to kill only unwanted children. Then again, if the mother wants the infant dead, and the doctor wants the infant dead, then I guess we can assume that it's an unwanted child.

And since most doctors also think they're god, then they have that on their side as well.

Just sayin'.
 

hypocritexposer

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Mike said:
Soapweed said:
LIBERAL HYPOCRISY - Blaming every law-abiding gun owner for deaths of children, while supporting abortion. :roll:

According to some, if their Doctor says it's OK to kill child, then so-be-it.


It's a conscious choice between the mother and doctor, even though the mother is "under", due to Anesthesia
 
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