SASH said:Everytime we tried to test everything, the US told us not to because we are supposedly an integrated North American beef industry and you don't want to test.
SASH said:You would be surprised what the US does to us when they are pissed off. You know, challenge our wheat board, put tariffs on our softwood lumber, close the border to our beef. You know, that kind of stuff.
~SH~ said:Mike: "Prionics Check Western/Elisa test would meet the criteria you specify. Can and has detected prions in subclinical animals. It's the one Japan and Europe has found UTM positives with."
Three questions Mike....
1. Has this test revealed any positives in animals younger than 20 months of age which most fed cattle would fall under?
2. Is this test approved for use in Canada and the U.S.?
3. What is the cost per head?
All relevant questions to the issue of 100% testing.
Mike: "Bio-Rad, the first rapid test approved by the USDA in 2004, was notorious for false positives and was the only one Creekstone could have gotten at the time due to approval by the USDA."
Perhaps that would be one reason why USDA would not approve it ya think?
Where is the BSE test for UTM animals that is a reliable depiction of BSE before the animal shows clinical signs of the disease?
What Creekstone was offering was to test cattle with a test that wouldn't reveal anything anyway.
Are you offering the same deception?
Before you can test UTM cattle don't you have to have a reliable test for UTM cattle???
Broke Cowboy said:Canucks
test everything - stop implants
you get Japan and European markets
what are you waiting for?
~SH~ said:Sandhusker: "So now you're telling us that an animal has to show clinical signs of the disease before it will test positive?"
Where is the BSE test that will detect BSE prions in slaughter cattle under 20 months of age?????
WHERE IS IT SANDHUSKER??????
It doesn't exist!!!!!
1. BSE prions are not detectable in cattle younger than 20 months of age so testing of cattle under 20 months of age (the bulk of slaughter cattle) is worthless.
2. Japan has moved their position away from 100% testing toward age verification.
3. Sandhusker has offered no proof that the Japanese parliament is willing to take tested beef today from cattle under 20 months of age.
Past this, the rest of your slanted points are moot!
Sandhusker: "Of course, since I'm an R-CALF member, I'm obviously lying, as that is all any R-CALF member does (that and blaming and deceiving)."
Poor, poor little Sandhusker!
PLAY THE VICTIM!
Sandhusker: "You solo act holds as much water as a sock."
Then I fully expect you to offer facts to the contrary of 1-3 above.