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Why Would Dittmer Tell This Lie?

Mike

Well-known member
Steve Dittmer quote:
"It is important to note that any beef in other countries intended for export to this country is harvested under the eye of a USDA inspector, just as happens in domestic packinghouses."

Interview with Jolley at Cattlenetwork.............

Because...................."He (Dittmer) was an active free marketeer when I first interviewed him just over a year ago. Nothing has changed, of course, even his steadfast refusal to reveal the sources of the Foundation’s funding. He certainly doesn’t count R-CALF among his backers. Maybe some of the old line meat groups might be slipping him a few bucks.”
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Mike said:
Steve Dittmer quote:
"It is important to note that any beef in other countries intended for export to this country is harvested under the eye of a USDA inspector, just as happens in domestic packinghouses."

Interview with Jolley at Cattlenetwork.............

Because...................."He (Dittmer) was an active free marketeer when I first interviewed him just over a year ago. Nothing has changed, of course, even his steadfast refusal to reveal the sources of the Foundation’s funding. He certainly doesn’t count R-CALF among his backers. Maybe some of the old line meat groups might be slipping him a few bucks.”

That's has to be incorrect. Bill says he's never been proven wrong.
 

Bill

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
Mike said:
Steve Dittmer quote:
"It is important to note that any beef in other countries intended for export to this country is harvested under the eye of a USDA inspector, just as happens in domestic packinghouses."

Interview with Jolley at Cattlenetwork.............

Because...................."He (Dittmer) was an active free marketeer when I first interviewed him just over a year ago. Nothing has changed, of course, even his steadfast refusal to reveal the sources of the Foundation’s funding. He certainly doesn’t count R-CALF among his backers. Maybe some of the old line meat groups might be slipping him a few bucks.”

That's has to be incorrect. Bill says he's never been proven wrong.

What I said is that you have never proven him wrong Sadhusker, which you haven't.

It appears Dittmer was either wrong or misquoted in this recent Cattlenetwork article.

http://www.cattlenetwork.com/content.asp?ContentId=144485

Ever make a mistake Sadhusker or say something that was taken out of context????????????

:roll: :roll: :roll: Sorry stupid question. :oops:

Why don't you run it by the gals at the bank on Monday so you can understand the whole article. They'll explain it to you while they are busy doing your other work as you bask in the sun.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Bill, "What I said is that you have never proven him wrong Sadhusker, which you haven't. "

You forget some of his crap I posted about R-CALF promoting sustainable agriculture, unions, etc.... :roll: Your memory is as short as it is selective. I even got SH to admit some of his crap "wasn't entirely correct".

Follow a clown and you'll be a clown.
 

Mike

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Bill, I think you are going by the old adage when defending Dittmer, "an enemy of my enemy is my friend". This has not always worked out to be the proper decision.

You think he is a friend of the Canadian producers simply because he is spouting the mantra of the big packers? You have been hoodwinked and you are much smarter than this.

He is clearly trying to make others believe that a USDA inspector is actually standing over cattle on the kill floor whether they be in Bangladesh or Brazil. You and I both know that this is not the case.



His statement is a lie.

He would sell you out in a hearbeat if the AMI told him to.

If he hasn't already.
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
He is clearly trying to make others believe that a USDA inspector is actually standing over cattle on the kill floor whether they be in Bangladesh or Brazil. You and I both know that this is not the case.

And some of these same foreign government inspectors will "sell you my seester for $5"....... :shock: :( :mad:
 

Mike

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
He is clearly trying to make others believe that a USDA inspector is actually standing over cattle on the kill floor whether they be in Bangladesh or Brazil. You and I both know that this is not the case.

And some of these same foreign government inspectors will "sell you my seester for $5"....... :shock: :( :mad:

$5?????????????

Dang, you been messing with those high dollar women?

My buddy who's a corporate pilot, takes his bosses down that way about once a month.

He tells me they get a whole room full of those worn out 17-18 year olds for $10 (for the whole bunch) per night.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
He is clearly trying to make others believe that a USDA inspector is actually standing over cattle on the kill floor whether they be in Bangladesh or Brazil. You and I both know that this is not the case.

And some of these same foreign government inspectors will "sell you my seester for $5"....... :shock: :( :mad:

$5?????????????

Dang, you been messing with those high dollar women?

My buddy who's a corporate pilot, takes his bosses down that way about once a month.

He tells me they get a whole room full of those worn out 17-18 year olds for $10 (for the whole bunch) per night.

I thought NAFTA was supposed to increase wages down there......
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
He is clearly trying to make others believe that a USDA inspector is actually standing over cattle on the kill floor whether they be in Bangladesh or Brazil. You and I both know that this is not the case.

And some of these same foreign government inspectors will "sell you my seester for $5"....... :shock: :( :mad:

$5?????????????

Dang, you been messing with those high dollar women?

My buddy who's a corporate pilot, takes his bosses down that way about once a month.

He tells me they get a whole room full of those worn out 17-18 year olds for $10 (for the whole bunch) per night.

Tijuana girls-- they come complete with a two week supply of penicillin :wink:
 

andybob

Well-known member
Mike said:
Steve Dittmer quote:
"It is important to note that any beef in other countries intended for export to this country is harvested under the eye of a USDA inspector, just as happens in domestic packinghouses."
I have inspected abattoirs for export certification when I was a meat technologist, the usual procedure is to have an annual inspection by the importing countries' inspection team of vets and techs, to ensure that the factory is being run according to the agreed protocols. There is normally only one inspection per year, on an agreed date, and the re- licensencing
is based on this one inspection, and agreements signed that inspection procedures will be carried out by the local inspectorate to the standards of the importing country. I know of no instances where foriegn vets or inspectors are based at an exporting abattoir,
 

Mike

Well-known member
andybob said:
Mike said:
Steve Dittmer quote:
"It is important to note that any beef in other countries intended for export to this country is harvested under the eye of a USDA inspector, just as happens in domestic packinghouses."
I have inspected abattoirs for export certification when I was a meat technologist, the usual procedure is to have an annual inspection by the importing countries' inspection team of vets and techs, to ensure that the factory is being run according to the agreed protocols. There is normally only one inspection per year, on an agreed date, and the re- licensencing
is based on this one inspection, and agreements signed that inspection procedures will be carried out by the local inspectorate to the standards of the importing country. I know of no instances where foriegn vets or inspectors are based at an exporting abattoir,

Thanks. For the procedure you outlined, the exporting country gets the use of USDA stamps for imports arriving here........ correct?
 

andybob

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Mike, this depends upon the agreement. The boned cuts or beef sides may be sold identified as being from the country of origion, this is especially true when a quality branded product is being exported. Another alternative is to export the cuts unstamped, they are then further cut into smaller cuts in the importing country, re-packed and can be passed as "a product of country Z" based on the fact that the meat was processed in the importing country. The trick is often in the wording, and depends on the laws of the importing country, but I have seen beef cuts and canned meats labled as origionating from a processing plant in another country. The amount of illegal or at least questionable identification of export meat would shock you if you knew the real extent of 'dirty' practises intenationally, Dumped EU beef meant for canning in Namibia in the 80's was stamped, and re-packed as local produce, and exported back to Europe under a preferential trade agreement meant to supply a market for the local, fresh product, is just one example of blatent illegal practises I have personally witnessed.
 

Texan

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
And some of these same foreign government inspectors will "sell you my seester for $5"....... :shock: :( :mad:

$5?????????????

Dang, you been messing with those high dollar women?

My buddy who's a corporate pilot, takes his bosses down that way about once a month.

He tells me they get a whole room full of those worn out 17-18 year olds for $10 (for the whole bunch) per night.

I thought NAFTA was supposed to increase wages down there......

Sandhusker, I thought you told us that consumers are more concerned about country of origin and quality of meat than they are about price? :lol:

Of course, maybe they don't actually consume any of this meat. :shock:
 
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Anonymous

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Texan said:
Sandhusker said:
Mike said:
$5?????????????

Dang, you been messing with those high dollar women?

My buddy who's a corporate pilot, takes his bosses down that way about once a month.

He tells me they get a whole room full of those worn out 17-18 year olds for $10 (for the whole bunch) per night.

I thought NAFTA was supposed to increase wages down there......

Sandhusker, I thought you told us that consumers are more concerned about country of origin and quality of meat than they are about price? :lol:

Of course, maybe they don't actually consume any of this meat. :shock:

I guess, like with Slick Willy, you'll have to argue the definition of consume :wink:
 
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