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Why Would Trump Let Cruz Speak?

Traveler

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I think Trump is looking towards November, and wanting to pick up more Cruz loyalists, and Cruz is just looking ahead at future Presidential aspirations, knowing he would like to have Trump's support when that time comes. Sort of a cautious Kumbaya moment............my guess. Who the hell knows?

Cruz actually might be helpful for Trump to take Ohio, as Kasich doesn't appear that he will be. Even though he came in third at 13%, maybe he can help bring some Kasich, @47%, voters in. :???:
 

Mike

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Cruz is only hoping Hillary wins in Nov, so he'll be almost assuredly nominated in 2020. Just as his stump of a Senate so-called filibuster stalemate, when he knew all along he couldn't get 50 votes, it was all about him and his own political aspirations.

Bob Corker said, 'I didn't go to Harvard, Princeton, or Yale, but at least I can count to 50.'
 

loomixguy

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Mike said:
Cruz is only hoping Hillary wins in Nov

Hoping? :lol:

With Drumpf as her opponent, the Butcher of Benghazi is a lead pipe cinch to win, by proportions that will make Goldwater's beat down by LBJ look like a photo finish!
 

Mike

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Know what's funny? (But Not Ha Ha) It will backfire on Cruz if he doesn't keep his pledge to support Trump. His political career will be over. Kasich too. They signed a pledge you know.

They will be the bastards known for it..................................................But too stupid to realize it now. Write it down.
 

Mike

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Cruz's speech went exactly as I thought. He knew he wasn't going to support and showed his azz...............
 

W.T

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Cruz showed America what a little man he is... My guess is Most Cruz supporters will see that and be the good people they are and move to trump. Mike Pence is the best VP candidate I have seen since 1980. The Trump children show what kind of a father trump has been, All of those children are humble, extremely articulate and good people and that is the ultimate measure of a man, what are your children like. Chelsea Clinton cant even hold there coffee cup.
 

Brad S

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W.T said:
Cruz showed America what a little man he is... My guess is Most Cruz supporters will see that and be the good people they are and move to trump. Mike Pence is the best VP candidate I have seen since 1980. The Trump children show what kind of a father trump has been, All of those children are humble, extremely articulate and good people and that is the ultimate measure of a man, what are your children like. Chelsea Clinton cant even hold there coffee cup.


Funny you'd compare the trump kids to a fellow Democrat.
 

Brad S

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Mike said:
Cruz is only hoping Hillary wins in Nov, so he'll be almost assuredly nominated in 2020. Just as his stump of a Senate so-called filibuster stalemate, when he knew all along he couldn't get 50 votes, it was all about him and his own political aspirations.

Bob Corker said, 'I didn't go to Harvard, Princeton, or Yale, but at least I can count to 50.'


Would that be the filibuster that almost single handedly derailed immigration amnesty - that establishment republicans and communists alike had cooked up? Let me know when trump has done jack **** beyond leading a band of lcd
 

Mike

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Nope.
Ted Cruz’s phony Obamacare filibuster was really about . . . Ted Cruz

By Dana Milbank writer September 25, 2013 - Washington Post
John McCain said more in 10 minutes on the Senate floor than Ted Cruz did in 21 hours.

The Texas hothead had just completed his impressive bladderbuster, in which he discussed Ashton Kutcher and Toby Keith, did a Darth Vader impression, recited passages from Ayn Rand, read “Green Eggs and Ham” to his daughters at home, and spoke directly to his “sweetheart” via C-SPAN. At the end, he thanked dozens of people for their contributions to his marathon, as if rolling the credits on the heroic film of his life.

To the extent that Cruz’s phony filibuster had a point (it didn’t delay any vote) it was to shame his fellow Republicans into joining his crusade to shut down the government if Obamacare isn’t defunded; those who disagreed, he said, were like “Neville Chamberlain, who told the British people, ‘Accept the Nazis.’ ”

Half an hour after Cruz yielded the floor — “by force,” he claimed, even though he had declined an offer from Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to speak for an additional hour — McCain delivered a few words that could have taught his young colleague something about honor.

“I resoundingly reject that allegation,” the Arizona Republican said after reading Cruz’s words aloud. “To allege that there are people today who are like those who, prior to World War II, didn’t stand up and oppose the atrocities that were taking place in Europe, because I have an open and honest disagreement with the process . . . is an inappropriate place for debate on the floor of the United States Senate.”

McCain said Cruz’s words belittled those who served in the war, including his father and grandfather. He then used the rest of his brief speech to defend his record in opposition to Obamacare, which shouldn’t have been necessary: Nobody fought harder against the health-care reforms.

The difference between the two men has nothing to do with who hates Obamacare more. Rather, their difference is one of character. McCain exhorts his colleagues to serve a cause greater than self, as he did as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. Cruz acts as though the greatest cause is himself.


A casual observer of Cruz’s antics could see what his colleagues had been grumbling about privately: that his time on the Senate floor was an exercise in self-promotion. Cruz must have been sensitive about this, for he felt the need to protest sometime around hour 17, “I would be perfectly happy if not a single story coming out of this ever mentioned my name.”

This is the same man who spoke at great length about his father’s cooking, an auto accident his wife had had and what views he might have in common with Kutcher. He demonstrated his regard for the institution by working in the phrase “give a flying flip” and kissed up to Rush Limbaugh by reading something written by the radio host’s father.

Cruz’s colleagues voted with their feet. Earlier this year, 16 senators — including a Democrat — were on the floor to support a filibuster by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) protesting drone warfare. Cruz’s droning was eight hours longer than Paul’s, and his topic had much broader appeal to Republicans, yet I counted only 10 participants in support, including Cruz.

In the end, Cruz joined the 99 other senators in voting to proceed with the debate on the legislation Cruz seeks to block. He said he would take his stand on the next vote, but that probably won’t go much better for him — in no small part because of colleagues’ disdain for him, which McCain gave voice to after the freshman senator finished his bladderbuster.

McCain ridiculed the “extended oratory” and then recounted his own opposition to the legislation. “We fought as hard as we could in a fair and honest manner and we lost,” he said. In 2012, he went on, “I campaigned all over America for two months, everywhere I could, and in every single campaign rally I said and we have to repeal and replace Obamacare. Well, the people spoke. . . . That doesn’t mean that we give up our efforts to try to replace and repair Obamacare. But it does mean that elections have consequences.”
 

loomixguy

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Holding McCain up as a shining example of anything other than a suck azz RINO is REALLY grasping at straws. More & more like 1.0 with each passing day......
 

Mike

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loomixguy said:
Holding McCain up as a shining example of anything other than a suck azz RINO is REALLY grasping at straws. More & more like 1.0 with each passing day......

McCain was 100% right in that debate. Cruz was a self-absorbed tool. You can be sure McCain has more respect than him after tonight.

You picked a loser. Get over it and choose more wisely next time. You lost all the way around. It was said on the news tonite that Cruz lost two STATE campaign directors that said they never wanted anything else to do with him, and that he is a childish embarrassment to the Republican Party.
 

loomixguy

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There is no Republican Party anymore. Only the Libtard and the Libtard light parties. The really quite conservatives like you and 1.0 saw to that when you drank the Kool Aid.

Had Cruz won the nomination, how long before Drumpf, aka the Cheeto Bandito, would have cut a sizeable check to the Butcher of Benghazi? Sure wouldn't be the first time for THAT to happen, now would it?
 

W.T

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Brad S said:
W.T said:
Cruz showed America what a little man he is... My guess is Most Cruz supporters will see that and be the good people they are and move to trump. Mike Pence is the best VP candidate I have seen since 1980. The Trump children show what kind of a father trump has been, All of those children are humble, extremely articulate and good people and that is the ultimate measure of a man, what are your children like. Chelsea Clinton cant even hold there coffee cup.


Funny you'd compare the trump kids to a fellow Democrat.[/quo
Nothing funny about it. that is the two running, The Bitch on the broom and Trump.
 

Traveler

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Mike said:
Cruz is only hoping Hillary wins in Nov, so he'll be almost assuredly nominated in 2020. Just as his stump of a Senate so-called filibuster stalemate, when he knew all along he couldn't get 50 votes, it was all about him and his own political aspirations.

Bob Corker said, 'I didn't go to Harvard, Princeton, or Yale, but at least I can count to 50.'
Looks like you were right. I expected better. I don't think he is assured of the 2020 nomination, now, however.
 

Mike

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One Republican Rep. from Texas says that Cruz lost the confidence of at least half his delegates, if not more. He says Cruz may even lose his Senate seat in he next election. How arrogant and utterly stupid can one man be? (And I use the term "Man" very loosely for Cruz.)

Now Cruz can not only be mad at Trump for remarks about Heidi, she was called much, much worse as they were ushering her out of the building last night. I read she was called a "Goldman Sachs Whore" and other illustrious names to her face last night by Cruz' very own delegates.........
 

Faster horses

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Mike said:
One Republican Rep. from Texas says that Cruz lost the confidence of at least half his delegates, if not more. He says Cruz may even lose his Senate seat in he next election. How arrogant and utterly stupid can one man be? (And I use the term "Man" very loosely for Cruz.)

Now Cruz can not only be mad at Trump for remarks about Heidi, she was called much, much worse as they were ushering her out of the building last night. I read she was called a "Goldman Sachs Whore" and other illustrious names to her face last night by Cruz' very own delegates.........

If that happened, I wouldn't condone that from anyone. Heidi Cruz isn't running for anything, and to be gleeful about what happened and to call her names, shows lower intelligence for one thing and really bad taste for another.

I wish Cruz hadn't said what he did last night, but that's on him. He should have to answer for it. Not Heidi.
 

Steve

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Faster horses said:
Mike said:
One Republican Rep. from Texas says that Cruz lost the confidence of at least half his delegates, if not more. He says Cruz may even lose his Senate seat in he next election. How arrogant and utterly stupid can one man be? (And I use the term "Man" very loosely for Cruz.)

Now Cruz can not only be mad at Trump for remarks about Heidi, she was called much, much worse as they were ushering her out of the building last night. I read she was called a "Goldman Sachs Whore" and other illustrious names to her face last night by Cruz' very own delegates.........

If that happened, I wouldn't condone that from anyone. Heidi Cruz isn't running for anything, and to be gleeful about what happened and to call her names, shows lower intelligence for one thing and really bad taste for another.

I wish Cruz hadn't said what he did last night, but that's on him. He should have to answer for it. Not Heidi.

I agree Faster Horses. Trump and his supporters have such a scorched earth policy that they can't see the harm they are doing to themselves and our country when they insult other conservatives and republicans.

The hallowed “Republican Eleventh Commandment” originally set out by gubernatorial candidate Ronald Reagan during a particularly feisty 1966 California primary: Thou shall not speak ill of a fellow Republican.
 

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